4/8/2009 8:44:40 PM

And it begins. Yesterday I clearly remember seeing Singer graded as a 77 on ESPN. This is confirmed by modlin's post on page 49. I just looked at his grade now on ESPN and it says he's graded as a 74. WTF? How can someone drop 3 points in less than 24 hours. I'll tell you how. They commit to NC State.

google cache also confirmed that he was a 77.

[Edited on April 8, 2009 at 10:23 PM. Reason : ]

4/8/2009 10:04:09 PM

they're going to nc state? they're clearly not as good as we thought they were

4/8/2009 10:09:30 PM

That's probably more true than you think.

4/8/2009 10:37:20 PM

can you post the image from the cache? I can't find it.

I saw the 77 ranking too, so I know it happened recently.

4/8/2009 10:50:09 PM

2010 Football Scholarship Offers:
Bold = Commit

Map Link:
http://tinyurl.com/ch2nua

QB
No Offers

RB
**** Spencer Ware (Princeton HS) Cincinnati, OH 5-10/212/4.58
*** Tobais Palmer (Georgia Military) Milledgeville, GA 5-10/165
* Brandon Burrows (Walton HS) Marietta, GA 6-3/235
* Mustafa Greene (Irmo HS) Columbia, SC 6-0/200
* James White (St. Thomas Aquinas HS) Fort Lauderdale, FL 5-11/190/4.50
* Joshua Snead (Smithfield-Selma HS) Smithfield, NC 5-8/169/4.44

FB
No offers

WR
**** Tony Creecy (Southern HS) Durham, NC 6-0/190
**** Justin Hunter (Ocean Lakes HS) Virginia Beach, VA 6-4/185/4.49
* Alex Kenney (State College Area HS) State College, PA 6-0/190/4.37
* C.J. Jones (Alexis I. Dupont HS) Wilmington, DE 5-11/175/4.47

TE
**** Andrew Carswell (Sto-Rox HS) Mc Kees Rocks, PA 6-4/199/4.67
* Alex Welch (Elder HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-5/225

OT
**** Robert Crisp (Chapel Hill HS) Chapel Hill, NC 6-8/290
**** Eric Mack (Calhoun County HS) Saint Matthews, SC 6-5/318
**** Matt James (St. Xavier HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-7/260
* T.J. Leifheit (John T Hoggard HS) Wilmington, NC 6-7/320
* Matt Rotheram (North Olmsted HS) North Olmsted, OH 6-6/305
* Max Garcia (Norcross HS) Norcross, GA 6-4.5/265
* Jack Deboef (State College Area HS) State College, PA 6-7/265
* Mark Shuman (Fork Union Military Academy) Fork Union, VA 6-6/270
* Khamrone Kolb (Lake Braddock HS) Burke, VA 6-6/300

OG
* Christian Pace (Avon Lake HS) Avon Lake, OH 6-4/270
* Kalon Davis (Chester Senior HS) Chester, SC 6-5/320
* Kolton Houston (Buford HS) Buford, GA 6-5/270

C
**** A.J. Cann (Bamberg Ehrhardt HS) Bamberg, SC 6-3/265/5.06

DT
**** Evan Hailes (Oscar F. Smith HS) Chesapeake, VA 6-2/320/5.00
**** Fre'Shad Hunter (Cary HS) Cary, NC 6-3/250
**** Louis Nix (William M. Raines HS) Jacksonville, FL 6-3/310/5.15
* Marty Everett (Butler County (KS)) El Dorado, KS 6-4/295
* Michael Thornton (Stephenson HS) Stone Mountain, GA 6-1/275

DE
**** Gabe King (Page HS) Greensboro, NC 6-5/230/4.91
**** Zack McCray (Brookville HS) Lynchburg, VA 6-4/235/4.75
**** Alfy Hill (West Brunswick HS) Shallotte, NC 6-4/245
**** DaQuan Jones (Johnson City SHS) Johnson City, NY 6-4.5/285/5.05
**** J.R. Ferguson (St. John's at Prospect Hall) Frederick, MD 6-4/255
* Prince Shembo (Ardrey Kell HS) Charlotte, NC 6-2/225/4.72
* James Kittredge (Don Bosco Prep School) Ramsey, NJ 6-4/250
* Jibreel Black (Wyoming HS) Wyoming, OH 6-2/260/5.00
* Kenny Wilkins (Trinity SHS) Washington, PA 6-3/222/4.74

MLB
**** Kendall Moore (Southeast Raleigh HS) Raleigh, NC 6-2.5/229/4.78
* Troy Gloster (Our Lady Good Counsel HS) Olney, MD 6-0/215/4.60
* Michael Taylor (Westlake HS) Atlanta, GA 6-1/200

SLB
**** Christian McCain (Page HS) Greensboro, NC 6-5.5/196/4.75
**** Christian Jones (Lake Howell HS) Winter Park, FL 6-4/215/4.70
* Travis Williams (Lake Taylor HS) Norfolk, VA 6-2.5/200/4.60
* Marcus Rush (Moeller HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-3/210

WLB
**** Justin Parker (Beaufort HS) Beaufort, SC 6-2/210
* P.J. Clyburn (West Iredell HS) Statesville, NC 6-1/205

S
**** Keenan Allen (Northern Guilford) Greensboro, NC 6-3/195
*** Roy Mangram (Georgia Military) Milledgeville, GA 6-2/200
* Pete Singer (Chapel Hill HS) Chapel Hill, NC 5-11/175/4.50
* Dontae Johnson (The Pennington School) Pennington, NJ 6-3/185/4.50
* David Amerson (Dudley HS) Greensboro, NC 6-2/180
* Bashaud Breeland (Allendale-Fairfax HS) Fairfax, SC 6-2/190/4.50
* Frank Tamakloe (Our Lady Good Counsel HS) Olney, MD 6-3/189/4.50
* Daunte Carr (Gainesville HS) Gainesville, GA 6-2/195/4.55
* Isaiah Johnson (Sandy Creek HS) Tyrone, GA 6-2/180/4.60

CB
***** Lamarcus Joyner (St. Thomas Aquinas HS) Fort Lauderdale, FL 5-8.5/162/4.34
**** Johnavon Fulton (Manning HS) Manning, SC 6-0/180/4.50
* Reggie Wilkins (Crest Senior HS) Shelby, NC 5-11/180
* A.J. Marshall (Southern HS) Durham, NC 5-10/170
* Lo Wood (Apopka Senior HS) Apopka, FL 5-11/163/4.56
* Braylon Heard (Cardinal Mooney HS) Youngstown, OH 5-10/165
* Rijo Walker (Bethel HS) Hampton, VA 5-10/171/4.5
* Louis Young (Our Lady Good Counsel HS) Olney, MD 5-11.5/177/4.56

K,P
No Offers


------------------------------------------STATISTICS------------------------------------------


Scholarships Count
14 Scholarships Available (Note: Just using the # of Seniors for now)
-4 2010 Commits
-------------------------------------
10 Scholarships Remaining

Recruiting Breakdown
OFFENSE
QB - 0
Backfield - 1
Receivers - 0
Linemen - 1
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Total Offense - 2

DEFENSE
Linemen - 0
Linebackers - 0
Secondary - 2
------------------
Total Defense - 2

SPECIAL TEAMS
Kickers - 0

Geographical Diversity
Georgia - 2
North Carolina - 2

Star Count (highest of the two sites)
5* - 0
4* - 1
3* - 2
2* - 0
1* - 1
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Average Stars - 2.75

4/8/2009 10:56:50 PM

Here's the cache of Singer's ESPN profile showing he was originally graded a 77.

http://tinyurl.com/crqfvq

4/8/2009 11:07:02 PM

4/8/2009 11:09:11 PM

wow this is really blatant and fucked up

starting to wonder if Crisp will get his fifth star

4/8/2009 11:11:00 PM

I want to send out a round of emails. Help me find some good address for the people over at the ocho.

4/8/2009 11:13:38 PM

not that ESPN did it, but Josh Davis in basketball got lowered from ** to * the day after he commited to us.

[Edited on April 8, 2009 at 11:17 PM. Reason : that was scout]

4/8/2009 11:17:26 PM

that's different, 1*s haven't been properly evaluated so it may just be temporary. this just seems completely blatant.

4/8/2009 11:20:49 PM

Maybe they saw his picture and realized he was white. That might be worth a 3 point deduction.

4/8/2009 11:32:26 PM

I couldn't find any email address because I need sleep, but I wrote them a complaint. I doubt I'll get a non-form response but I look for others to contact in the morning.

4/8/2009 11:36:53 PM

yeah wtf....


they are probably going to be all like " those are just some wacko nc state msg boarders"...

NO ONE ELSE WILL EVER KNOW (mwah-hahahaha)

4/8/2009 11:54:49 PM

Oh noes... he wasn't as good as he was yesterday...

4/9/2009 7:32:53 AM

brassmonkey said:

Quote :

"Two other O-linemen that I want to get are Logan Stewart, who I think will eventually get a decent amount of offers, and T.J. Leifheit. Now Leifheit though does go to Hoggard High in Wilmington, which seems like a Tar Heel loving school based on my experience with their grads."

[too lazy to lookup]
Didn't Jonathan Cooper also go to Hoggard?
[/too lazy to lookup]

[Edited on April 9, 2009 at 8:50 AM. Reason : sdfs]

4/9/2009 8:47:47 AM

i think leifheit is a silent commit to unc

4/9/2009 9:22:41 AM

^^ He did.

^ I've heard the same. He wears Carolina gear to school on the regular.

4/9/2009 1:22:19 PM

Who is Hakeem Vincent? I just heard his name on:

http://www2.bustersports.com/player/packpride.aspx?id=3571

Says he has a lot of talent but will not qualify. I did not find any info on him on scout.

4/9/2009 3:18:19 PM

Hakeem Vinson

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=3780149

[Edited on April 9, 2009 at 3:28 PM. Reason : .]

4/9/2009 3:27:39 PM

Vinson will likely end up here, the only question is when. Once he gets his final grades theyll be able to figure out if he has to go to Prep or JUCO

4/9/2009 3:38:20 PM

From my post on page 40

Quote :

"DE Hakeem Vinson may prep next year. He would then enroll somewhere (possibly State) next January. The coaches really like the kid, but he probably does need to go to prep school for a semester. He was kind of in a bad situation before. When he was attending South Johnston his home was 30 minutes away so sometimes after he got done with practice it would be very late at night (close to midnight) before he would get home. This year he transferred to Mt. Zion in Durham to work on his academics and stayed at the school. This helped him out some, but probably not enough to qualify. I know he really liked State and if he preps and can qualify for a January enrollment then expect him to be a likely commit for us next year. Vinson is 6-3 235 and runs a 4.35 40. He would probably have been a highly recruited and ranked player had he been likely to qualify. I'll be pulling for him to make it to State."

4/9/2009 3:47:54 PM

yeah, apparently this kid is a beast

like a little mario

4/9/2009 5:04:26 PM

i'm not sure i'd i'd call him a little mario at 6-3 235... maybe a little manny with that speed

4/9/2009 5:23:04 PM

packpride has a good interview with Crisp posted. he said he'd talked to tony creecy and he told him he'd end up going to school wherever rob went.

4/10/2009 2:40:32 PM

fuck yeah! I hope it turns out that way.

4/10/2009 2:44:03 PM

^^ the link is broken, here's a good link
http://www.bustersports.com/podcast/pack-pride/2009/04/10/pack-pridecom-radio-41009/

4/10/2009 4:39:15 PM

^not only is he a beast, he's pretty well-spoken too. seems to have a good head on those huge shoulders.

4/10/2009 5:03:20 PM

lol at these Duke fans talking shit about us. congratulations you own the overall record against us, but you haven't beaten us in 16 years and only once in 20. they got a bunch of their wins back when we didn't even have scholarship players like most of the other programs in the country did and they were a powerhouse.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=167&f=1093&t=4197273

4/10/2009 8:58:52 PM

^ i found it hilarious when i went to other sites to see their reaction to the crisp commit and found them shitting on singer. Like that kid isn't the prototype of every unheralded, high character player TOB always pulls in and owns the Miami's and ND's with

even more hilarious that it's duke. Singer has more talent than 80% of their roster

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the staff is working on alfy hill real hard right now. Cant say how long he wants to hold out and see how much his recruitment blows up...could get an early surprise w/ him if Creecy and a couple others jump on the momentum train though

4/11/2009 3:45:56 AM

according to these bustersports/packpride people (i like James Henderson alot [nomancrush /]) they will have an interview with Singer i think on monday or tuesday.

4/12/2009 2:37:33 PM

^^ fyi, we talk shit about recruits who don't commit to us, too. Witness the increasing about of negative comments about wall


same happened when favors, cousins chose other people. it's like a bad breakup with a GF

4/12/2009 4:12:47 PM

all the duke fans were just excited because Crisp, i think, visited one of their camps. They did decently instate recruiting last year and of course think they have arrived.

I know if i had been a top recruit growing up in NC, i would have openly committed to UNCCH, then made it appear that i was having a 25% doubt about 2 weeks before signing day and hint that Duke was now in the picture. I would tell both coaches that if they recruit my position i'm bolting, and then on signing day pull out the Wolf Hat. Then for four years, i'd have all-world games when i played UNCCH and Dook.

4/12/2009 4:27:54 PM

^^ except they didnt shit talk crisp, they shit talked singer and said we only got crisp b/c of the package deal

4/12/2009 5:08:02 PM

Quote :

"^^ except they didnt shit talk crisp, they shit talked singer and said we only got crisp b/c of the package deal"

And???? Duke football fans can't possibly be taken seriously. If I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt I had zero potential to go tothe NFL, yea I'd probably go to Duke, but over 90% of BCS recruits want to play pro ball, and Crisp certainly falls into the norm. Jerry Stackhouse also brought Jeff McCinnis with him as a package deal 15 years ago. However, I'd like to see Duke continue to play UNC tough and eventually beat them. As long as their attention is on UNC I don't think they will ever get to riled up to play us. We're in a good position with them, they'll never take their game with us as seriously as they will with UNC for the obvious reason, and because we play them twice every 5 years from here on out. Duke beating UNC would be huge from a recruting standpoint for everyone in the state not named UNC.

4/12/2009 7:55:17 PM

I didnt know duke had any real football fans... Im impressed they actually have shit talking msg boarders.... cant wait til we whoop dat @$$ on Oct 10

4/12/2009 8:21:02 PM

Fre'Shad Hunter Hunter update:
"N.C. State is one of my top schools. I have always grown up a fan of N.C. State, plus they were the first school to offer me. I like Florida and LSU as well."

N.C. State: "N.C. State football. The game atmosphere is something I love. It's crazy at game time. The coaching staff is nice. It fits me too."

"I think I am going to have to wait until signing day," he explained. "I would like to take my official visits."
___________________________________________

Da'Rick Rogers/Nash Nance
Rogers, along with teammate Nash Nance, took a big road trip to several schools during spring break. They continued their trip after the combine to South Carolina and Clemson. Alabama is in the plans for April 18.

"We visited Tennessee, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, UTC, Wake Forest, Virginia Tech and N.C. State," said Rogers. "There were a couple that stood out. The facilities at N.C. State were amazing. When we went to Mississippi State Dan Mullen stayed with us the whole time. Wake Forest was a pretty good place as well."

Nance's road trip left him impressed with N.C. State as well.

"We went and visited N.C. State," he stated. "That was really nice. They have some of the best facilities I have seen in the nation. Da’ Rick and I were very surprised. Their facilities are brand new. The whirlpools, and everything they had were insane."
__________________________________________________________________

Unrated Boiling Springs (SC) QB Dylan Thompson will be visiting today
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New Offer:
Jeremy Grable picked up his first offer recently and it came from the North Carolina State Wolfpack.

Grable is a linebacker that is a leader for the Milton football team. He is a quiet young man that leads by example and the offer from N.C. State really surprised him.

The new offer is on his mind and the Auburn Tigers are a school he is highly interested in as well.

4/14/2009 12:04:22 PM

lol boiling springs SC, i lived there one summer

i think they filmed some of that Leatherheads movie there

4/14/2009 12:11:43 PM

Pete Singer interview
http://www.bustersports.com/podcast/pack-pride/2009/04/13/pack-pridecom-radio-41309/

4/14/2009 1:16:38 PM

Is there a list of all the redshirts somewhere?

4/16/2009 7:49:26 AM

^yeah....the roster

4/16/2009 8:13:01 AM

Anybody know which "big time" qb visited wednesday? Pete Thomas maybe? He just popped up on the rivals list and was at maryland thursday so it's not a stretch to imagine he could have been here.

4/17/2009 11:18:37 PM

^ it was pete thomas, and he was "blown away" by the visit

[Edited on April 17, 2009 at 11:46 PM. Reason : .]

4/17/2009 11:45:29 PM

nice, good to hear. hopefully he'll find a way to come to camp and throw for bible.

4/17/2009 11:50:18 PM

bible will fly out to CA if necessary.

4/18/2009 12:08:02 AM

phuck yeah... after producing one of the most prolific college to NFL QBs in the past decade at BC + the development of RW (and MG?)....

Bible's stock is definitely up

4/18/2009 12:56:11 AM

Charlotte Observer's Top 25 Prospects in NC and SC

NC
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/story/672643.html

SC
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/story/672642.html

4/19/2009 5:46:42 PM

the schools dont seem to be any particular order, so is that the order of the players preference?

4/20/2009 11:07:33 AM

Quote :

"Gabe King Northern Guilford, 6-5, 231: 75 tackles last season; wants to be an engineer (Alabama, California, Clemson, Georgia, North Carolina, N.C. State, West Virginia). "

4/20/2009 11:13:05 AM