So, why does everyone hate the Glazers again?

Man U has enjoyed a good run since they bought it, right? 3 straight league titles, a European title, and a Finals appearance last year is as good as it gets outside of fantasy land for winning trophies. Now that article on the front page of soccernet is talking about the Red Knights desperately trying to raise money to put together a 1 billion pound bid when the Glazers have already turned down a 1.5 billion pound bid from the far east.

This makes no sense. The desperate buyer is trying to set a price for the owner that doesn't want to sell. Good luck with that Red Knights.

These clowns claim they are worried about the club's financial situation because they have debt, but isn't that part of running a business? What club outside of Chelsea and City who are owned by multibillionaire oil tycoons doesn't have some degree of debt? The Red Knights can't even raise enough money to get a legitimate bid in, but they seem to think that they are going to rescue the club from debt. Riiiight.

To me, it look like the Red Knights are hurting this club to me. By dividing the fan base they ultimately hurt the thing they love the most. Fergie has the money to do whatever he wants and thinks is necessary as far as I can tell, and I'm sure they will be buyers again this summer. So, what is serious enough to warrant singing songs about the death of Glazer and his kids?

5/10/2010 10:40:34 AM

No, it's not part of running a club anywhere in the world except for the US.


Barca operates with little to no debt. Most European clubs do. It's fiscal conservatism that keeps these clubs afloat, not worldwide fanbases and shirt sales.


You can't sit back and bank on future success when you run a sports team - it's just not a shrewd business decision. Madrid is lucky that the government writes off their debts, but teams like United, Liverpool, Portsmouth, Leeds, Newcastle, Rangers, and others have all found themselves in poor positions financially because they count on making money that sometimes doesn't appear.


Rangers just won the SPL and they are scraping to make ends meet, even with the bonus paid out for being champions and in making the UCL. They are literally hovering right above administration.


Liverpool is the same way. Had they missed the mark and lost their place in the Europa league, they'd be out tens of millions of Pounds/Euros and wouldnt be able to even think about buying the players they need to stay competitive in the league. As it stands right now, they probably won't make the Champions League after next year, either.


It's never EVER a good idea to saddle your club with borrowing debt and pin your hopes on future glory.

5/10/2010 11:18:07 AM

Yeah, but at least United can be sustainable year-to-year with their operating revenues.

I read an article recently detailing how Liverpool is basically fucked unless they find some oil sugar-daddy because Anfield can't generate enough revenues to pay the damn interest on outstanding loans... so to ask a prospective buyer to come up with the money to buy the club, continue the debt payments, AND build a new stadium is pretty much impossible. The only other option is a ground-share with Everton, which I cannot ever see happening.

So basically, see ya Torres and Gerrard.

5/10/2010 11:30:10 AM

5/10/2010 11:35:31 AM

^^Sustainable for now, but not indefinitely.

As much as I have a dislike of Liverpool, I don't think I ever would want to see them go the way of Portsmouth.

5/10/2010 11:49:34 AM

i dont know where else to post this but here, but i dont know why this dick has never been suspended for months at a time for shit like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Zsd38GssA

also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhfZpfpnrXc&feature=related

totti has made a career out of cheap shots and dirty tackles...i can never take italys league serious when all they can do to totti is give him a 4 match copa italia ban....OH NOES COPA ITALIA BAN, THATLL SHOW HIM. totti is probably in my top 5 of all time players i loathe

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 1:15 PM. Reason : f]

5/10/2010 1:05:00 PM

it's because balotelli is black.

5/10/2010 1:09:42 PM

Quote :

"it's because balotelli is black needed a kicking."

FYP

5/10/2010 1:57:38 PM

i'll just leave this here

5/10/2010 2:08:10 PM

LOL, check out JT's first video at beginning at the 1:03 mark and watch Daniele De Rossi's reaction at the top of the box.

5/10/2010 2:55:01 PM

ahahaha i didnt notice that.

totti is the attack minded materazzi. both are head hunting douches

5/10/2010 5:10:19 PM

^^ haha good stuff

5/10/2010 8:21:22 PM

ahahahha epic reaction



the best part is we've all been there at some point (had the same reaction)




SO I was thinking guys - next year should we just make a "European Soccer" thread? That way we don't get people feeling guilty about posting one-offs from other leagues, and we also open it up to talk about those other leagues as well. I know amac loves him some i-talian footie. I don't mind talking about the Spanish & Scottish leagues, either.

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 8:46 PM. Reason : .]

5/10/2010 8:37:38 PM

sounds good to me

let's make it soccer in general so we can talk about MLS too....

*ducks*

5/10/2010 9:57:24 PM

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 10:08 PM. Reason : ^^ agreed, though]

5/10/2010 10:07:54 PM

you have mistaken amac's true love....the Swedish Allsvenskan

5/10/2010 10:08:02 PM

Quote :

"LIGUE 2 AFFAIR"

5/10/2010 10:08:51 PM

^^

5/10/2010 10:29:14 PM

Hammarby baby!

5/10/2010 10:34:16 PM

Honestly I just wanted a thread i could feel comfortable talking about Orlando Pirates in.

5/10/2010 11:20:10 PM

I support a Football 2010/11 thread.

5/10/2010 11:21:48 PM

CHARLESTON BATTERY #1

5/10/2010 11:33:24 PM

Battery Ultras ITT

5/10/2010 11:34:36 PM

HE GOES BY THE NAME OF SEAMUS DONNELLY

5/10/2010 11:37:27 PM

HOWAY THE WOOD HALL B BUILDING INTRAMURAL TEAM

5/11/2010 12:13:21 AM

Quote :

"I support a Football 2010/11 thread."

If it's called that it will be hijacked by the end of the first page. Mark my words.

5/11/2010 12:56:10 AM

if its gonna be about all leagues and stuff, it might as well be a perpetual soccer thread and have no years on it

[Edited on May 11, 2010 at 1:00 AM. Reason : f]

5/11/2010 1:00:08 AM

Quote :

"Gianluigi Buffon has been tipped to leave Juventus and join Premier League side Arsenal, according to Sky Sport 24."

who does this guy think he is? one does not simply walk into holloway and take fabianski's gloves

5/11/2010 3:27:30 PM

lol where did you see that from? if hes going anywhere in the EPL you would have to think its United. i know they are looking for a keeper to replace VDS, and im sure Arsenal are looking for a keeper to replace anyone who starts for them...but there is no way arsenal can afford buffon

5/11/2010 3:29:14 PM

no way?

how much is he worth?

5/11/2010 3:30:23 PM

isnt arsene using a lot of the funds right now to re-sign players within the arsenal camp anyway?

5/11/2010 3:32:34 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_div_1/8672355.stm


Blackpool make the playoff Final!!!!1

5/11/2010 5:32:35 PM

It's either them or the Premiership is no longer all English.

5/12/2010 11:54:34 PM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/may/13/cesc-fabregas-arsenal-barcelona

Cesc trying to force Barca's hand before the world cup.

5/13/2010 9:16:05 PM

how have i never seen this thread before

maybe it's because i never venture into ST...

5/14/2010 12:27:32 PM

Quote :

"http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_div_1/8672355.stm Blackpool make the playoff Final!!!!1 "

Can't wait to see Ian Holloway in the Premier League. He's a quote machine!! Even Jose couldn't hold a candle to him.

5/14/2010 2:03:32 PM

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=786748&sec=england&cc=5901


what a little bitch....this is why ive always hated anelka and i still cant believe he made it onto frances national team.

5/15/2010 8:59:08 AM

Le Whine, Le Bitch, Le Sulk.

5/15/2010 9:41:01 AM

JT is the biggest fucking ass hat in the world

5/15/2010 12:12:10 PM

Soccernet reporting Chelsea will break the transfer record in an attempt to land Torres.

5/17/2010 8:37:07 AM

^^ haha, just wanted to clarify I was referring to John Terry

and not JTMONEYNCSU

5/17/2010 8:38:08 AM

No way he is worth close to £130 million

terrible move IMO

5/17/2010 10:07:39 AM

Quote :

"The deal could be structured like this; pick any three players from a specified list plus £40 million cash up front for Torres. That offer, according to Soccernet sources, will be made well ahead of the World Cup finals in South Africa, and most likely early next week. With the three players averaging around £15 million each, the total valuation of the Torres offer would be in excess of the Ronaldo fee. Abramovich is personally spearheading the quest to land Torres, and his manager Carlo Ancelotti will consider which players to use as bait to tempt Liverpool: Jose Bosingwa, Nicolas Anelka, Ricardo Carvalho, Deco, Salomon Kalou and Paulo Ferreira."

if it's a cash+players deal, I'd rather Liverpool do it with City than Chelsea (if those are indeed the list of players to choose from)

Ireland, Richards, and Wright-Phillips are more appealing than what Chelsea's offering, in my opinion

5/17/2010 10:25:51 AM

I cant say either set would be better - if Chelsea get rid of any of those players for just one guy, they're going to the be the weaker team for it.

5/17/2010 12:52:20 PM

yeah I agree, but from Liverpool's perspective

5/17/2010 1:01:29 PM

I guess as a United fan, I'd endorse making Chelsea weaker.


Those Citeh players are barely even fringe players ATM.

5/17/2010 1:07:52 PM

well now that Masch has given that interview and he's pretty much gone


you might as well just fucking clear house

5/17/2010 2:12:09 PM

Quote :

"What kills me about living in Liverpool is that there are only two Argentinians here with me, Emiliano Insua and Maxi Rodriguez. Insua and I live in a private neighbourhood. He lives in one tower and I live in the other. There are 15 metres between us and we used to look at each other through the window."

WTF? Was it just me, or did anyone else picture this?



[Edited on May 17, 2010 at 5:09 PM. Reason : .]

5/17/2010 5:09:35 PM

ahahahahahahahaha

5/17/2010 5:21:22 PM

I don't think Chelsea will lose a whole lot in that deal. The biggest loss they would take is Kalou and Anelka. Carvalho, Deco, Bosingwa, and Ferreira didn't see much playing time at all this season. They'll lose a little depth but the only one who saw much of the field was Anelka. You could easily start building a new team around Deco, Carvalho and Kalou even though there's a lot of age in that deal. Plus they're getting money... Sounds like a great deal for Liverpool. They need to realize that this isn't a move the manager wants to make, this is a move the crazy ass Russian wants to make and they'll be able to rape Chelsea for way more than Torres is worth.

And for the record, I think Torres is the best complete striker in the world.

5/17/2010 5:46:02 PM