natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Debbie better be making it rain on Glenwood tonight with whatever anyone wants at Turkish Delights. Welcome to the team young man!!! 5/16/2016 11:28:03 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Hopefully landing one-and-done talents like DSJr and Omer help with 2017 and beyond....because there are a ton of scholarships available beyond next season. Not sure if any 2017s are close to committing at this time. Would be nice to lock up 1/2 this Summer for that class. 5/16/2016 11:42:00 PM |
ussjbroli All American 4518 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He's OAD based on them watching him play against 17 year olds in Turkey, not ACC upperclassmen, which they'll get to see next year." |
He's one and done from people watching him play for the senior fenerbache team against euro league opponents and the Turkish NT. And from him playing in an exhibition game against the nets two years ago and scoring 8 points with 7 rebounds in 15 minutes. As a 15 year old that is ridiculously impressive5/16/2016 11:44:40 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
If he sucks for us though, he's not just gonna go in the lottery immediately. He's kinda like Alex Len a little bit. But I wasn't aware of some of those things you mentioned. 5/16/2016 11:52:52 PM |
F1V3LSU All American 1530 Posts user info edit post |
Doesnt seem like he played much for fenerbache tho
Appeared in 8 games, played 37 minutes, and scored 13 points.
eh
[Edited on May 17, 2016 at 12:22 AM. Reason : f] 5/17/2016 12:21:11 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I will cry with joy if he's better than Richard Howell was his senior year" |
5/17/2016 9:12:33 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "holy fuckin shit" |
5/17/2016 9:34:25 AM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
Provided Abu comes back, this gives us the depth to allow Freeman to red shirt if he needs a season off for his leg issues. Also gives us depth and talent to go along with some of the experience we'll have with Abu (hopefully), Anya, & Henderson as upper classmen.
Hopefully this starts to help on the recruiting trail for the '17-'18 season too as I think the only real locks to be on that team at this point are Maverick, Kirk, Hicks & Dorn. Tons of playing time to offer. 5/17/2016 10:40:55 AM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
we still in it with any notable recruits for 16? 5/17/2016 11:26:21 AM |
cptinsano All American 11995 Posts user info edit post |
not really
http://ncstate.247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketball/Targets 5/17/2016 12:03:26 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Think last '16 body we're looking at is Gibson Johnson, but he's a JUCO. 5/17/2016 12:42:01 PM |
jsdail All American 3260 Posts user info edit post |
I hate the one and done rule...you should either just jump straight to the NBA or stay in college a min. of 3 years. 5/17/2016 1:15:26 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Or you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want because they don't owe you shit 5/17/2016 1:35:18 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25545 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Or you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want" |
[Edited on May 17, 2016 at 2:00 PM. Reason : k]5/17/2016 2:00:31 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "@tnBobSutton Gottfried on Abu, Anya: "My anticipation is that they'll be back with us." ... both have names in for NBA Draft." |
5/17/2016 2:13:51 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
7^ also supposedly still in it with Canadian combo guard Tyrells Gumbs-Frater 5/17/2016 5:53:59 PM |
Sandman All American 1215 Posts user info edit post |
Id be ok with anya leaving early. Replacing him with any above average recruit has to be considered a win 5/17/2016 7:45:15 PM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
he'll be a good reserve behind yurtseven at the 5. right now all i care about is having depth consisting of scholarship players. 5/17/2016 7:54:16 PM |
Sandman All American 1215 Posts user info edit post |
Depends on if we get 2014 or 2015 anya. 2015 anya was below replacement level 5/17/2016 8:07:18 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37705 Posts user info edit post |
That doesn't matter nearly as much if he can't be replaced. Sometimes you just need a body to go out and suck up minutes. 5/17/2016 8:19:44 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Anya is better in a 6th man role. Limited minutes, lower expectations on offense, can focus on just being a rim protector and putting away easy dunks. 5/17/2016 8:24:21 PM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
Yep, and not having to worry about foul trouble 5/17/2016 9:23:24 PM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
anya will soak up fouls, play 10 minutes. maybe get 2 blocks or so. that's his role 5/17/2016 9:43:23 PM |
yrey All American 1150 Posts user info edit post |
Anya had so much potential but wasted away with a fork and spoon. After his freshman year I thought he had the potential to be a dominate power player like Shaq. He's explosive for his size and once he gets airborne you might as well just get out of his way. However, it seems like he regressed. He spent his last three years losing weight like a wrestler. He may have a decent senior year but I wish that he worked on more than his blocks and dunks. However, I'm happy that he's a wolfpacker, I still cant believe that clutch skyhook doe. 5/17/2016 9:55:06 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Was curious when we last had two five star recruits so I looked on that 24/7 link above and saw that in 2012 Warren and Purvis were five stars. Also, in 2010 Leslie was a five star but they don't even show Harrow, ha ha, no love for bubble guts. 5/17/2016 10:30:15 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37705 Posts user info edit post |
https://ncstate.n.rivals.com/commitments/basketball/2010
rivals shows bubs 5/17/2016 10:40:42 PM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Anya had so much potential but wasted away with a fork and spoon. After his freshman year I thought he had the potential to be a dominate power player like Shaq. He's explosive for his size and once he gets airborne you might as well just get out of his way. However, it seems like he regressed. He spent his last three years losing weight like a wrestler. He may have a decent senior year but I wish that he worked on more than his blocks and dunks. However, I'm happy that he's a wolfpacker, I still cant believe that clutch skyhook doe." |
i pretty much agree with this whole statement. he had some flashes of being a dominant center, but literally CANNOT be consistent. he's a flash mode foul absorber. comparable to current-day udonis haslem.5/17/2016 10:50:45 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
I assume by "pretty much" you mean u disagree with:
1) The fork and spoon stupidity 2) The usage of dominate when he obviously meant dominant 3) The holy-fuck-how-dumb-are-you wanna-be comparison to Shaq 4) Bagging on Anya for losing weight, which was obviously a necessity 5) The usage of "doe" which was a sad attempt to look cool when the opposite is obvious
[Edited on May 18, 2016 at 12:39 AM. Reason : I'll agree with happy he's a wolfpacker tho] 5/18/2016 12:31:24 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25545 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Id be ok with anya leaving early. Replacing him with any above average recruit has to be considered a win " |
but at this point i think it's pretty unlikely that we get an above average recruit to replace Anya. Yurtseven isn't gonna play 40 mpg. We need Anya to at least be able to give us some minutes at center every game to give Yurtseven rest.5/18/2016 7:38:24 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Anya was 6th man of the year as a sophomore. If we can put him in that 20 mpg role where he comes in and defends, blocks shots, and gives us a boost inside..then that will be perfect. 5/18/2016 7:44:10 AM |
dhigh New Recruit 35 Posts user info edit post |
man you all are hating on Anya but he is one of the few players that has stuck with the program all 4 years even if he may not be the best of the best. He does have the block record and will most likely have a good career over seas somewhere. I like seeing the chest pump and flex after making a layup when fouled by the PG haha! 5/18/2016 8:10:08 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
^^ fewer minutes mitigates his consistent foul trouble too, and let's him contest more shots at the rim
[Edited on May 18, 2016 at 8:11 AM. Reason : ^] 5/18/2016 8:10:52 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
Y'all a bunch of bitches. Stop bagging on a kid who has decided to spend 4 years with us. GTFO
I bet you think it would be okay for Abu to leave now too.
[Edited on May 18, 2016 at 8:16 AM. Reason : bitches] 5/18/2016 8:15:17 AM |
Bullet All American 28432 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously, wtf is wrong with some of you (particularly one of you), talking about wanting a 3* recruit over a 4th year anya. No, he hasn't lived up to his potential and is guaranteed to make a few silly mistakes/fouls every game, but he could be a lot worse. I know it takes him out of position sometimes, but the dude holds the block record at NC State and still has a year to go. Some of you MFers are miserable people. I'll never understand grown adults disparaging kids that play for their college team. 5/18/2016 10:11:45 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^,^^,^
[Edited on May 18, 2016 at 10:19 AM. Reason : but yeah, our miserable-fucke-in-chief continues to be miserable. ] 5/18/2016 10:18:03 AM |
Bullet All American 28432 Posts user info edit post |
And immediately after landing our second top10 recruit. It's sad. 5/18/2016 10:21:22 AM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
^^^He does hold the block record at NCSU, but how often does he block a shot right back into the hands of the offense or out of bounds (possession, still the other team)?
[Edited on May 18, 2016 at 10:21 AM. Reason : ] 5/18/2016 10:21:29 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Hey I'm sure Gott is working on his block trajectory in the off season 5/18/2016 10:29:46 AM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
My point is that blocks don't do any good if they don't lead to turnovers. I'd rather him be 50th in blocks in team history and #1 in rebounds. 5/18/2016 12:18:45 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25545 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My point is that blocks don't do any good if they don't lead to turnovers." |
that's not entirely true. blocks = shots the other team does not make.5/18/2016 12:39:36 PM |
Bullet All American 28432 Posts user info edit post |
So are you saying that Anya's blocks are more prone to not to lead to turnovers than other blocks by other players? Interesting. 5/18/2016 12:45:55 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Blocks are good. 5/18/2016 12:46:55 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
we're off topic. anya 2015 vs. 2014.
2015 anya. all attempted blocks ratio, my spitball numbers. for every 10 attempts 1 would get blocked 2 would miss the block, other team scores or we get rebound 7 would miss the block, other team misses, anya's guy gets rebound for easy basket
thats the discouraging part 5/18/2016 12:53:57 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37705 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My point is that blocks don't do any good if they don't lead to turnovers." |
Lol5/18/2016 1:01:39 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25545 Posts user info edit post |
^^well all of these complaints are just your "feeling" of what happened last year without actual stats to back it up. just like AstralEngine saying he feels like most of anya's blocks go right back to the other team. no clue if this is a stat that's kept (doubt it is), but maybe we should try to focus on tangible, real stats rather than "it seems like this happens a lot". y'all might be right...but i'd like to see something to actually back it up.
the reality is, anya is bad offensively. he's not in great shape. he does block shots pretty well. and his role on next year's team will probably be about what it was in 2015-16 or perhaps slightly less of a role. i think he'll probably need to play 20 mpg to give Yurtseven a break and provide a defensive presence.
[Edited on May 18, 2016 at 1:11 PM. Reason : f] 5/18/2016 1:08:16 PM |
Bullet All American 28432 Posts user info edit post |
^^^lol
i have a feeling a lot of you "feels" are biased because it's the team that you pull for and watch the most. If you pulled for another team, you'd probably make the same complaint about their leading blocker. Or maybe I'm wrong and for some reason Anya seems to block it back to the other team more often than other guys. I doubt it, but I don't know.
[Edited on May 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM. Reason : ] 5/18/2016 1:08:22 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
i hear ya. 5/18/2016 1:09:13 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
A block is essentially useless if it just swats the ball back to the same team.
Sure they don't make THAT shot (if they would have made it in the first place), but they get another free attempt so in the grand scheme of things it doesn't change anything.
His presence in the paint only means that teams need to make more of an effort to grab offensive rebounds than they might otherwise need to. If they make that adjustment, then a majority of the time it leads to rebounds right under the basket behind an Anya who is wildly out of position from the previous block and to easy layups for points. 5/18/2016 1:36:05 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A block is essentially useless if it just swats the ball back to the same team.
Sure they don't make THAT shot" |
I can't stop laughing at this. Pretty excited to see where this ^ guy's logic is going to lead him ITT.
[Edited on May 18, 2016 at 1:54 PM. Reason : Like, what is the purpose of defense?]5/18/2016 1:53:34 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25545 Posts user info edit post |
^^yeah i get what you're saying. i guess what i'm saying is, let's maybe get some quantifiable stats to back that up. otherwise it's just "it sure does seem like he blocks it and the other team gets the ball". which is kinda pointless if it can't be proven. 5/18/2016 2:04:09 PM |