I think the cops were looking for an excuse to shoot this guy. It was like a high stakes game of Simon says

12/11/2017 10:45:44 AM

shit man, he couldn't even just lay still and flat as a pancake without the risk of getting shot. Lose/Lose situation

12/11/2017 10:58:08 AM

Guy shouldn't have gotten off.

You know what? People like to have things cut and dry. Here's a good cut and dry policy. If you use lethal force on someone because you think they have a weapon, and it turns out they don't? Automatic 2nd degree murder.

However this would just cause more cops to plant evidence.

12/11/2017 11:55:37 AM

if only there were some group of people taking a stance against this sort of atrocity....

12/11/2017 1:31:15 PM

apparently this pussy had "you're fucked" engraved on his firearm

12/11/2017 1:55:36 PM

Quote :

"How is training not talking to these types of situations, and how to avoid lethal force at all times?"

The training all says go home alive at the end of your shift no matter home many "innocent" people you have to shoot to make that happen.

12/11/2017 2:12:02 PM

12/11/2017 4:42:29 PM

think if a cop yells at me to crawl towards him i'm just going to lay there with my arms out and say i'm deaf with really poor articulation or something

[Edited on December 11, 2017 at 6:59 PM. Reason : a]

12/11/2017 6:38:59 PM

i was thinking that too.

might get shot anyway but at least the republicans cant say it was your fault for moving in a "threatening manor" when the cop told you to.....

12/11/2017 7:34:44 PM

it was your fault for not complying with the orders given.

12/12/2017 10:42:30 AM

Quote :

"A THREATENING MANOR"

12/12/2017 11:23:13 AM

Is that like a haunted house?

12/12/2017 11:31:44 AM

12/12/2017 11:42:10 AM

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/deputy-injured-during-overnight-shooting-in-york-county-officials-say/684343583

Four cops shot, white suspect.....still alive

Edit: It doesn't appear, after further reading, that the intent was to leave the suspect alive. He was shot. Just not fatally.

[Edited on January 16, 2018 at 7:26 AM. Reason : dsfa]

1/16/2018 7:25:04 AM

instead of looking for someone else to blame, he pulled up his bootstraps (and pants) and survived the gun shot wound

#personalresponsibility

1/16/2018 10:11:27 PM

Cop DOESN'T shoot an ARMED person and gets fired for it

But then sues and wins money

Quote :

"US police officer who didn’t shoot armed man wins $175,000 AFP | Published — Monday 12 February 2018 WASHINGTON: A West Virginia police officer who was fired after he chose not to shoot an armed black man will receive a $175,000 settlement after suing the city for wrongful termination. Retired US Marine Stephen Mader, 27, filed a lawsuit against the city of Weirton, West Virginia, following his June 2016 dismissal from the police force. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of West Virginia said Monday that the city had agreed to the payment to Mader to settle all claims. The lawsuit stemmed from a May 6, 2016 incident during which Mader responded to a call from a woman who reported a domestic disturbance with her boyfriend. When Mader, who is white, arrived on the scene, he encountered a “visibly distraught” R.J. Williams, 23, with his hands behind his back, according to the ACLU. Mader asked Williams to show his hands and he did, revealing a gun. The policeman asked Williams to drop the weapon, but he refused and told the police officer to shoot him, according to the ACLU account. “Rather than shoot, Mader returned to his military training and attempted to de-escalate the situation,” the ACLU said. “He softened his voice, looked Williams in the eye and said: ‘I’m not going to shoot you, brother. I’m not going to shoot you.’“ While Mader was negotiating with Williams, two other officers arrived on the scene. Williams raised his gun and one of the newly-arrived officers fired four shots, killing him, the ACLU said. The gun turned out to be unloaded. City officials said Mader “froze on the scene” and was being fired for that reason, along with several other infractions. The officer who fired the shots that killed Williams was cleared of any wrongdoing."

2/13/2018 9:36:59 PM

So if you decide to de-escalate a situation using actual skills and training and don't shoot someone dead, it means you "froze up" and can't be trusted to do your job. Got it. This is getting worse and worse.

2/14/2018 1:37:24 PM

so umm...school shooter...lived?

2/14/2018 4:03:00 PM

How was school shooter taken alive???

2/15/2018 1:08:43 AM

because the officers didn't fear for their lives. he was above the darkness threshold.

2/15/2018 9:26:10 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/16/baltimore-county-jury-awards-37m-to-family-police-shooting-victim.html

The family of the Baltimore woman who took her 5 year old son hostage during a police standoff during an arrest warrant being served was awarded $37 million. hopefully the family sets most of that money aside for her two kids instead of burning through it all before they become adults.

2/17/2018 8:26:40 AM

Awwwwwww look eleusis cares about the kids
















JK I'm sure he disagrees with the verdict and is just extending his typical victim blaming behaviour.

2/17/2018 11:32:33 AM

It's cool tho. He knows a black person.

2/17/2018 2:04:35 PM

I know we’re supposed to embrace “imperfect” victims and whatnot, but Korryn Gaines is not the one.

2/17/2018 4:27:58 PM

What? Police broke into her home and killed her. What are you talking about?

2/17/2018 11:54:48 PM

Earl uses children as human shields

2/18/2018 12:29:09 AM

The kid got shot and watched his mom die because the cops got impatient and can't shoot for shit. he deserved to get paid for the trouble he's going to have in life because of it. His mother was an idiot though.

2/18/2018 2:09:34 AM

cant recall if i posted we could end 90% of these shootings if we ended the war on drugs recently

[Edited on February 18, 2018 at 8:00 AM. Reason : made up stat]

2/18/2018 8:00:33 AM

I don't think drugs were involved with this incident. Korynn was a sovereign citizen nut who refused to get tags or insurance for her car and then refused to go to court after she got ticketed for doing so. cops come to issue a warrant for her arrest and she points a shofgun at them.



[Edited on February 18, 2018 at 8:27 AM. Reason : drug use could be responsible for her decision making.]

2/18/2018 8:25:56 AM

She didn't use her child as a human shield, but that whole situation was a mess regardless.

Also, besides all her sovereign citizen stuff, drugs were definitely involved. Twenty-three year old single mothers of two with her history of bizarre behavior cannot suddenly afford braces without some kind of drugs being involved, and the police probably would have come back another day if it wasn't obvious to everyone that her 39 year-old boyfriend was using her place for heroin.

I know that everybody's amended their remarks to support women or #BLM or whatever, but this was the word right after it happened:

Quote :

"how else can one combine "pro black" low information militancy with being a "sovereign" citizen and have an ex felon baby daddy drug dealer who is chopping dope and bringing guns in the state subsidized apartment your kids are living in...."

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/so-no-thread-on-korryn-gains-black-woman-shot-dead-by-police-in-baltimore.454048/

It was a mess...of court-documented neurological impairments, angry and impulsive behavior, trouble concentrating, and a loss of "significant IQ points."

I'm just saying...the kid got lucky, y'all, and I don't care how cold it sounds. Once you're waving shotguns around and essentially committing suicide in front of your kid, a colder kind of math can emerge. $37M > mom, and she knew it herself.

2/18/2018 12:54:29 PM

you are so insensitive and yes, cold. goes to show that this whole thing is nothing more than text on a screen to you

2/18/2018 3:12:13 PM

I'm not unfeeling though. I have empathy for the woman, but I got some left over for everybody else involved, too: her children, her neighbors, and the police officers who signed up to fight crime and found out their real job was fixing poverty and treating the nation's growing number of people with mental health problems--without the proper resources to do it.

We cut funding for everything and left all the problems to emergency room personnel and police officers...so bad stuff is going to happen.


I'm just saying...if I had to live next door to her, I definitely would not take off work to protest her shooting.

2/18/2018 5:32:29 PM

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/375174-broward-co-sheriff-armed-officer-at-school-never-went-into

perpetual pussy cop will shoot an unarmed person but will be a pussy the one time he's actually needed

2/22/2018 10:01:41 PM

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article202381524.html

perpetual cop sexually assaults a child thread

2/27/2018 5:21:49 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/unarmed-black-man-shot-death-backyard-article-1.3886562

3/20/2018 9:14:18 PM

^ easily the worst part about that is the fact that the grandma didn't know her grandson was lying dead in the back yard. She called 911 to report the gunshots, and the cops came in to grill her about what she heard, never telling her what was going on. She only found out that her grandson was dead when she opened her own fucking window and saw his dead body in her yard. The cops hadn't even called for the paramedics yet, for fuck's sake.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article205818424.html

Quote :

"Thompson said her husband called 911 to report the shots. Police interviewed Thompson for several hours about what she had heard but did not tell her about Clark, she said. She eventually decided to look out a window and saw her grandson's body in her backyard, she said./article205818424.html#storylink=cpy"

[Edited on March 20, 2018 at 11:23 PM. Reason : ]

3/20/2018 11:20:15 PM

I don't know exactly which dead kid it was, but somewhere along the way, I decided to never, ever call the police cause of shit like this:

Quote :

"The police department said officers were responding to a report that someone was breaking car windows nearby."

A drunk lady could be trying to break into my neighbor's apartment with a can of kerosene, and I'm still not calling it in. The odds are too good the police will show up and shoot the black guy upstairs.

3/21/2018 7:01:59 AM

^ she gets it.

3/21/2018 9:20:14 AM

broken windows policing

3/21/2018 6:49:43 PM

Is there any chance that this wasn't the guy that was breaking the windows?

I ask because mistaken identity would make this case so much worse. If it was him though, I just don't understand, and never will understand, why people run. Even if you're not guilty, running makes the situation look so much worse. I get that these folks are scared of the police. But man, if you're so scared of the police, don't vandalize? Maybe people just think they won't get caught, and then are caught by surprise when the cops show up? I don't know.

Not that any of this is a death sentence. But shit, if I ever get pulled over, I'm dropping whatever I have in my hands, putting them on my head and waiting to get frisked.

Oh and we need a new policy. You kill somebody on the job, and investigations show that there was ultimately no threat to life, minimum - manslaughter. No ifs ands or buts. Nothing worse than the streets full of cops with twitchy trigger fingers.

3/22/2018 7:57:51 AM

so basically...don't run, don't die? this guy wasn't running. what are you talking about?

Quote :

"Police said Clark held an “object” that he “extended in front of him” as he approached two officers."

Quote :

"investigations show that there was ultimately no threat to life"

who the fuck do you suppose are doing these "investigations"?

[Edited on March 22, 2018 at 9:09 AM. Reason : ]

3/22/2018 9:06:37 AM

I mean, even a superficial review of cases where the police have shot unarmed people would show that the following actions can lead to being shot

-if you run
-if you stand still
-if you committed some crime
-if you just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time
-if you have already been placed in cuffs and are sitting in the back of the squad car


At some point, you need to take a look at the police, and expect more of them than to ready, fire, then aim.

3/22/2018 9:15:04 AM

I agree 100%^

But it is obvious that no amount of this mess is going to change the behavior of the police, nor will it cause any legislation to be enacted.

3/22/2018 10:10:55 AM

^^The CNN article I read indicated that helicopter footage showed him being confronted in the front yard, and he ran to the backyard.

As for the investigations, we need an outside source to investigate police offices. I don't trust IA investigations to be fair and objective.

3/22/2018 10:12:37 AM

yeah, good luck with that.

3/22/2018 10:52:01 AM

Quote :

"I ask because mistaken identity would make this case so much worse. If it was him though, I just don't understand, and never will understand, why people run. Even if you're not guilty, running makes the situation look so much worse. I get that these folks are scared of the police. But man, if you're so scared of the police, don't vandalize? Maybe people just think they won't get caught, and then are caught by surprise when the cops show up? I don't know. Not that any of this is a death sentence. But shit, if I ever get pulled over, I'm dropping whatever I have in my hands, putting them on my head and waiting to get frisked."

3/22/2018 10:35:17 PM

police need training on how to retreat. If they feel like a situation is getting dangerous, they need to be able to get themselves out of that situation by increasing the distance between them and the potential weapon.

3/22/2018 10:56:04 PM

the best offense is a sweet, savory defense

3/23/2018 9:15:33 AM

Nice, keep up the good work cops!

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/j5a5q7/results-of-stephon-clarks-autopsy-show-he-was-shot-in-back-7-times

He deserved it!

3/30/2018 4:50:18 PM

next

3/30/2018 7:30:23 PM