should be getting my laptop thursday.

6/28/2011 3:56:18 PM

ALkatraz 934

6/28/2011 6:07:50 PM

baller

6/29/2011 3:22:03 AM

Me and my friend (p and t) have been ranked 1 in our 2v2 gold division and have won the last 10 games we played in a row and still not getting moved up to plat -- frustrating.

how is there not a W-10 achievement by the way? Thought for sure we would get one after the 10th win

6/29/2011 7:40:46 PM

wtf i cant connect to bnet tonight. shit down for anyone else?

6/29/2011 10:48:37 PM

^^the whole "promotion" system is an enigma

6/30/2011 10:40:51 AM

Its not really an enigma, aside from why it bugs out sometimes

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195273

A possible reason you guys arent moving up

Quote :

"The second factor is a "confidence buffer" that exists between leagues. That is, if a Bronze player is only slightly better than the lowest-rated Silver players according to his moving average, that is not reason alone to promote him, even though he has crossed into the Silver MMR region. If that player slumped, he would fall right back into Bronze within a couple of games, only to return to Silver a couple of games later, making his promotion far less meaningful. Leagues are sticky, therefore the moving average must cross beyond the destination league's confidence buffer, cementing that player's position within the higher league"

your last few opponents may not be high (or may be low enough) enough to get you out of the buffer between leagues

[Edited on June 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM. Reason : *]

6/30/2011 11:07:03 AM

^Make sense. The system is designed so you never get in the situation where you win a game and move from bronze to silver, lose the next and move back to bronze, win the next and move back to silver, and so on. You've got to be able to hold your own against opponents with a higher MMR for a while before it promotes you to the next league.

6/30/2011 11:39:01 AM

It does create some frustrating situations though. I seem to have bad luck with getting promoted. Back before masters was out I was top 5 in the world in platinum for like a week before getting promoted, then once masters came out i was #1 worldwide for a day or two before getting promoted. Then titans78 and i played about 100 2v2 games against masters people before we got promoted.

On the other hand, Alkatraz and I (i think it was) played 5 2v2s together and got promoted right to masters.

Lots of weird stories about how the ranking system works.

6/30/2011 4:38:13 PM

Quote :

"On the other hand, Alkatraz and I (i think it was) played 5 2v2s together and got promoted right to masters."

After reading a post about MMR and some explanations on TL.net, it seems like our MMR for 2v2 hasn't plateaued yet. It's still climbing because we had so many wins at first against high MMRanked opponents. Since we don't have that many losses it's still going up.


EDIT: Geforce Tourney update: Second match in a row where the guy is a no show. I guess I get this forfeit too. =/ This stinks because it doesn't increase my record. I don't get 2 wins for a no show, it just shows as a forfeit.

[Edited on June 30, 2011 at 9:17 PM. Reason : -]

6/30/2011 9:16:20 PM

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Battle.net_Leagues#Practice_League

Quote :

"You get placed in a league after having completed 5 placement matches[2]. After that, you may get moved to another league, but the time and frequency of these movements are kept explicitly hidden and are most likely done on an individual basis."

Sounds pretty enigmatic to me!

7/1/2011 2:29:23 PM

It is a dumb system designed to just make players feel good about themselves. A normal ladder system nobody would brag about being 1,586,908th in the world. But you actually see people brag about being 1st in their silver division which is probably the equivalent.

Just keep playing a lot and you'll keep moving up, sometimes slowly but eventually it will promote you.

7/1/2011 3:19:55 PM

^^ did you read the link I posted?

When it runs its algorithm may not be known but its pretty well documented how the system works. Hardly an enigma.

7/1/2011 5:45:24 PM

anyone around to play 3v3 4v4 or monobattle or whatever..dont care

7/1/2011 9:06:43 PM

what algorithm? we're talking about two different things dude.
calm down its ok to be wrong.
which is what you are.
wrongy wrong

7/3/2011 11:46:01 PM

I don't own this game so I watch the Major League Gamers go at online. IdrA v. MMA was intense.

7/4/2011 2:24:47 AM

^^The algorithm that determines promotion between leagues. You said the promotion system is an enigma, it is not.

7/4/2011 9:39:14 AM

is

7/4/2011 3:34:00 PM

Just got back from vacation this afternoon. Haven't played since last Tuesday or Wednesday. I need to play some games this afternoon and tonight.

7/5/2011 3:49:58 PM

Just found out I got strep(sp?) throat. So I'm stuck at home and not going to work so if anyone wants to play some team games or monobattles hit me up I'll be on. FLuE.301 is name/code.

7/7/2011 5:15:49 PM

NASL grandfinals are going live momentarily...

nasl.tv

7/8/2011 3:02:51 PM

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/NASL.tv

7/8/2011 4:43:14 PM

July will win it.

7/8/2011 7:18:48 PM

The production value is terrible, but this is still enjoyable.

7/8/2011 9:37:12 PM

Darkforce and Alive series was really good.

7/8/2011 11:40:26 PM

Im a damn Darkforce fan now

the production quality has increased drastically over the course of the broadcast

7/9/2011 12:11:33 AM

new rig will definitely improve my gaming performance. one game in and while i'm rusty, my effective APM is a LOT higher than i thought it would be

7/9/2011 4:04:44 PM

finals just started i think...is this live?

7/10/2011 5:37:51 PM

Its live

I love seeing MC get owned

Of course I say that and that shit happens

[Edited on July 10, 2011 at 6:18 PM. Reason : *]

7/10/2011 6:15:20 PM

MC is getting owned. i love how puma hot dogs with the mule

7/10/2011 6:41:04 PM

did not think this would go to game 7

kinda nuts.

7/10/2011 7:29:50 PM

There are over 81 thousand people watching the stream

MC is going to win

[Edited on July 10, 2011 at 7:39 PM. Reason : *]

woa or not

[Edited on July 10, 2011 at 7:43 PM. Reason : *]

7/10/2011 7:30:36 PM

those last 3 minutes, MC did almost nothing...it was weird

7/10/2011 7:52:15 PM

His tech switch to DTs didn't do the damage he needed and he was hoping it would keep Puma in his base long enough for him to get the 3rd going, catch his economy up, and then have temps and storm on the way. Why it appeared like he was doing nothing and just sitting at like 115 supply.

The DTs didn't do the damage he needed though to catch up or keep Puma in base and he got stuck. He basically lost the game when he didn't do enough damage early with the warpgate timing and hidden pylon, he closed the gap a bit with some nice forcefields, but the DTs were what had to get the game back for him and they didn't.

The series was pretty epic though.

7/10/2011 8:18:08 PM

Yeah I had fun watching it today. Got skyfire installed on my ipad just in time to watch it streamed while sitting at my fiances parents house all afternoon. Pretty epic back and forth games, I'm glad Puma won though... I don't really like MC's personality.

Was pretty LOL though when he threw down the manner mules and then lost the next two.

7/10/2011 9:30:59 PM

Quote :

"He basically lost the game when he didn't do enough damage early with the warpgate timing and hidden pylon, he closed the gap a bit with some nice forcefields, but the DTs were what had to get the game back for him and they didn't."

He really messed up when he lead the SCVs and the one marine right into the hidden pylons.

7/10/2011 11:33:46 PM

Because, you know...

7/11/2011 8:40:32 AM

Region linking with new ladder season

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/3085760#blog

7/11/2011 3:14:50 PM

MLG Raleigh spectator passes on sale.

http://store.majorleaguegaming.com/products/mlg-raleigh-spectator-pass

7/12/2011 12:12:05 AM

when are they going to have the invitees/competitors finalized?

7/12/2011 12:05:59 PM

They have Anaheim at the end of the month, so my guess is early August they'll start to announce the Korean players and we'll know the MLG seeds from the points based on who does what in the next one.

I'm considering going, but it would be pretty much the nerdiest thing I've ever done in my life so I'll have to think hard on it.

7/12/2011 12:14:39 PM

i mean, if you spend time watching replays/casts online, you're pretty much already up there in the nerd factor. i too would consider this if there's a chance for some pretty epic matchups.

i went back and watched MC vs. Puma - damn what a series. going into game 7 it was honestly anyone's game

7/12/2011 12:50:32 PM

^^DO IT. If it's lame we can go grab a beer.

I gotta think of some neat poster ideas.

7/12/2011 1:10:53 PM

^^Yes but there is a big difference between being a nerd in public and a nerd at home.

7/12/2011 1:33:08 PM

the only difference is you need to get over it and not care what people think.

7/12/2011 1:43:26 PM

But I do. I'm weak like that.

7/12/2011 1:58:22 PM

I'm so disappointed in you.

7/12/2011 2:00:38 PM

Oh no! Nerds might see you being a nerd around other nerds!

It's not like they're going to beam your picture to every television in the United States with the word "NERD" under it.

That said, if you don't go, use "because everyone there has poor hygeine" excuse.

7/12/2011 2:03:08 PM

I used to worry about being nerdy in public. Then I realized I've never done anything so nerdy that I regret it, while regretting missing out on nerdy stuff that I avoided.

7/12/2011 3:16:47 PM

FYI: http://www.reddit.com/r/TriangleStarcraft/

7/14/2011 1:56:59 PM