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spamming and attempting to sabotage this thread will not stop people from learning the truth about 9/11

it will actually accelerate it

thanks guth

3/1/2007 5:07:21 PM

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[Edited on March 1, 2007 at 5:32 PM. Reason : 3]

3/1/2007 5:07:42 PM

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what are you afraid of guth?

why the pic-bombing and blatant trolling?

3/1/2007 5:08:20 PM

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im afraid? post your name

3/1/2007 5:08:48 PM

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YOU ARE GETTING OWNED HARD CORE SALISBURY FAGMO

ALL THIS BULLSHIT

AND WE DONT EVEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE

SO I THINK IT IS TIME TO START OWNING UP

THEN MAYBE WE'LL TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY YOU CUM GUZZLER

3/1/2007 5:09:48 PM

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As if he interupted anything.

Now you can use him as an excuse not to defend your ideas.

Please provide a video of the loud explosions preceding the collapse of the twin towers.

3/1/2007 5:09:49 PM

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NYC Firefighter warns that there is "a bomb in the building"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvMABQHSS40

NYC Firefighter - "There's a bomb in the building - start clearing out"..."We got a secondary device in the building"

3/1/2007 5:12:02 PM

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as long as he types responses and doesnt paste the same quotes my picture wont cause a problem



oh, and post your name

3/1/2007 5:13:18 PM

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this:



was a bomb too. how would the fireman know a bomb if he saw one? they dont go through bomb detection classes.

3/1/2007 5:15:15 PM

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i had to evacuate my high school pretty often because there were bombs in the building

there were never bombs

3/1/2007 5:17:04 PM

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"You do realize that the building they're talking about is Stuyvesant High School (visible in the clip) where a temporary staging area was set up? There was no bomb, and it still stands today btw."

3/1/2007 5:18:42 PM

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So why haven't any of the FDNY firefighters said anything since then about the bombs and explosions? More than likely, they were scared and panicked and hadn't had time to step back and evaluate the situation.

[Edited on March 1, 2007 at 5:20 PM. Reason : .]

3/1/2007 5:20:06 PM

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the zionists caught wind that they knew and removed the bomb in an attempt to discredit them

3/1/2007 5:21:02 PM

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"NEWSFLASH....

~10 foot thick reinforced concrete wall DOES NOT COMPARE to the reinforced brick masonry walls of the Pentagon"


are you saying the pentagon is weaker or stronger than the wall in the video?

3/1/2007 5:23:35 PM

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salisburyboy, i answered your question here:
http://www.campusblender.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=256068&page=2

3/1/2007 5:28:27 PM

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"More than likely, they were scared and panicked and hadn't had time to step back and evaluate the situation."


exactly. with the 1990's attack of the WTC using explosives, that was most likely fresh in the minds of the FDNY and other emergency personnel.

o btw, i'm curious now to what you (salisburyboy) think of the initial attack in the 90's. if the Zionists wanted to so badly bring down the WTC, why did the first attempt fail?

[Edited on March 1, 2007 at 5:30 PM. Reason : .]

3/1/2007 5:28:50 PM

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salisbury doesnt comment on any questions that havent been answered for him by his favorite and VERY CREDIBLE blog websites

3/1/2007 5:42:37 PM

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"im afraid? post your name"

3/1/2007 5:49:31 PM

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"salisbury doesnt comment on any questions that havent been answered for him by his favorite and VERY CREDIBLE blog websites"


nah he's probably researching that right now on the blogs to find an answer to cut and paste for us.

3/1/2007 6:52:46 PM

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this thread is based solely on paranoia. there was no conspiracy !!!!1

3/1/2007 8:43:50 PM

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"So why haven't any of the FDNY firefighters said anything since then about the bombs and explosions? "


Hmmmmmm. Could you be LYING or DEAD WRONG yet again????


Amazing eyewitness testimony of "flashes" and explosions just before the collapse.

Here's the testimony of Stephen Gregory, Assistant Commissioner (F.D.N.Y.) from the 9/11 emergency personnel tapes released in August:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110008.PDF

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"A. ...I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him because I thought -- at that time I didn't know what it was. I mean, it could have been the result of the building collapsing, things exploding, but I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down.

Q. Was that on the lower level of the building or up where the fire was?

A. No, the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building, how when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That's what I thought I saw. And I didn't broach the topic to him, but he asked me. He said I don't know if I'm crazy, but I just wanted to ask you because you were standing right next to me… He said did you see any flashes? I said, yes, well, I thought it was just me. He said no, I saw them, too.

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Q. On the television pictures it appeared as well, before the first collapse, that there was an explosion on the upper floors.

A. I know about the explosion on the upper floors. This was like eye level.""


(see pp. 14-15 of PDF file for above quotes)



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""And while I was still in that immediate area, the south tower, 2 World Trade Center, there was what appeared to be at first an explosion. It appeared at the very top, simultaneously from all four sides, materials shot out horizontally. And then there seemed to be a momentary delay before you could see the beginning of the collapse."

-- Chief Frank Cruthers (F.D.N.Y.)"


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110179.PDF (see page 4 of PDF file)


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"""Shortly before the first tower came down I remember feeling the ground shaking. I heard a terrible noise, and then debris just started flying everywhere. People started running...."

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"...we basically had the same thing: The ground shook again, and we heard another terrible noise and the next thing we knew the second tower was coming down."


--Lieutenant Bradley Mann of the fire department"

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110194.PDF (see pp. 5-7 of PDF file for quotes)

3/2/2007 7:19:05 AM

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If that is the best you can do, you should give up on life now.

OMG

A FEW FIREFIGHTERS UNDER DURESS

NOT KNOWING WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THEM

HEARD NOISES SIMILAR TO EXPLOSIONS

I MEAN

IM SURE ONE OF THE SCENARIOS THAT WAS IN THEIRHEAD

HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BOMBS

BEFORE THEY HEARD ANY EXPLOSIONS


What is your name? Post a pic of yourself.

[Edited on March 2, 2007 at 8:41 AM. Reason : a]

3/2/2007 8:40:44 AM

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salisburyboy, where have I ever lied or been dead wrong? Yet again, you're trying to smear me instead of actually defending your ideas.

Stephen Greggory also said this regarding the flashes. At no point does he present an opinion that there were explosions in the building.

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"I equate it to the building coming down and pushing things down, it could have been electrical explosions, it could have been whatever."


Frank Cruthers:

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"And while I was still in that immediate area, the south tower, 2 World Trade Center, there was what appeared to be at first an explosion."


"Appeared to be at first" - as in, an initial resemblance. At no point does Cruthers present an opinion that there were explosions in the building.

Lt. Mann:

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"I remember feeling the ground shaking. I heard a terrible noise"


A 500,000 ton builing collapsing will make the ground shake and will produce noise.

If these firemen are so convinced, why haven't a huge number of FDNY members been vocal about your supposed controlled demolition? Could it be because they were equating the collapse of the WTC to a building implosion because thats the only thing that they can think to compare it to? When people say that a tornado sounded like a freight train, does that mean that the tornado was actually a freight train?

Allow me to post a few questions that you have ignored over the past two pages:

Are you admitting that the collapse looks nothing like any controlled demolition that you have ever seen?

Why doesn't a single video feature deafening explosions prior to collapse?

Find me a video that features explosives being set off underneath a collapsing structure as it falls.

So why haven't any of the FDNY firefighters said anything since then about the bombs and explosions?

3/2/2007 3:23:41 PM

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"Hmmmmmm. Could you be LYING or DEAD WRONG yet again???? "


Yes you could salisburyboy...yes you could

3/2/2007 3:26:20 PM

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You guys are either in total denial mode or you're shills.

Either way, it's hilarious. Keep up the work.

3/2/2007 4:09:24 PM

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You are either in total denial mode or you're a shill.

Either way, it's hilarious. Keep up the work.

3/2/2007 4:12:15 PM

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Upon questioning he reverts to smear mode.

Allow me to post a few questions that you have ignored over the past two pages:

Are you admitting that the collapse looks nothing like any controlled demolition that you have ever seen?

Why doesn't a single video feature deafening explosions prior to collapse?

Find me a video that features explosives being set off underneath a collapsing structure as it falls.

So why haven't any of the FDNY firefighters said anything since then about the bombs and explosions?

Where have I ever lied or been dead wrong?

Here are some more questions that you have been ignoring for 43 pages:

Why didn't they build a pipeline in 1998? Why did they blow up their own african embassies and then launch a missile attack on Afghanistan? They were set to build a natural gas pipeline with the Taliban then. Why mess that up for no reason?

You don't believe that Afghanistan was invaded for the sake of a pipeline? Then why are you defending that theory so stubbornly?

You just said that Afghanistan was invaded so that a pipeline could be built. Now you're saying that the zionists wanted to prevent the building of a pipeline - just like how Iraq was invaded to secure the oil supply even though the zionists don't care about the oil supply. How do you reconcile all of the conflicting information that you spout off on here?

By the way, how did the zionists cause the Revolutionary War?

Do you even know anything about american history? To say that the Civil War was caused simply by "illuminati agitators" is to ignore almost every detail of the decades that preceded the conflict.

Can we get some proof that John Wilkes Booth was an agent of the NWO rather than an upset Confederate sympathizer?

I would also like to see some proof that Pearl Harbor was caused by the evil edomite zionists.

You have provided absolutely no evidence at all that the Rothschilds are the zionists at the top running world events. They were a prominent family that supported the creation of a jewish state, that is all. Please provide some evidence other than "Here are some rich jews!"

So why should anyone believe your rantings anyway You have admitted that you hate jews. As such, you are far from an impartial source when you blame jews for every problem in the world.

So when was the Israeli false flag terrorist attack in Washington state?

What about the train bombing in Mumbai? Was that a government inside job? Whenever muslim terrorists attack western interests you immediately blame it on the zionists, what about this one?

Why is it spamming if I repeat unanswered questions, but it's ok for you to repost the same article in the same thread five times?

[Edited on March 2, 2007 at 4:23 PM. Reason : .]

3/2/2007 4:16:48 PM

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You guys are either in total denial mode or you're shills.

Either way, it's hilarious. Keep up the work."


LOOK AT THE BITCH ASS RUN

YOU'VE TRIED SO HARD TO ESTABLISH SOME SORT OF

CREDIBILITY

WHAT WITH ALL THIS "EVIDENCE" YOU HAVE POSTED

BUT

A) YOU DON'T HAVE A PIC OF YOURSELF
B) YOU DON'T GIVE ANY BACKGROUND ABOUT YOURSELF
C) YOU DON'T GIVE A NAME
D) YOU CAN'T RATIONALLY THINK FOR YOURSELF, ALL YOU DO IS POST PRISONPLANET BULLSHIT


ANY TIME YOU ARE QUESTIONED, YOU SIT PARALYZED IN FEAR AT YOUR KEYBOARD SINCE SOMEONE HAS OUTED YOU

FINALLY

YOU GET UP THE COURAGE TO TYPE SOME TRIPE CRAP THAT I QUOTED

AND SUMMARILY OWN YOURSELF


YOU'RE A FARCE

NOT EVEN WORTHY OF A POST THIS LONG

OR ANY REAL CONSIDERATION

YOU DON'T MAKE COMPELLING ARGUMENTS

AND YOUR ABILITY TO THINK LOGICALLY IS ON PART WITH A DOWN SYNDROME PATIENT

YOUR WORLD IS SHATTERED

END IT ALL NOW

[Edited on March 2, 2007 at 4:44 PM. Reason : i'm dead serious btw]

3/2/2007 4:40:32 PM

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"YOU DON'T MAKE COMPELLING ARGUMENTS

AND YOUR ABILITY TO THINK LOGICALLY IS ON PART WITH A DOWN SYNDROME PATIENT

YOUR WORLD IS SHATTERED

END IT ALL NOW
"


hahahaha

you WISH

3/2/2007 4:51:28 PM

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You have failed at this section harder than anyone else.

Honestly, kill yourself.

3/2/2007 4:53:55 PM

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I'll ask you again: where have I ever lied or been dead wrong? You made a serious statement about my character and then immediately backed down when I asked you to substantiate it. So tell me, is your assertion about me a lie or just dead wrong?

For comparison, here is a blatant lie that you have made in this thread:

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"I believe there has been a coverup regarding Diana's death. I believe she was murdered...as do ~85%+ of the British population, by the way."


The fact that you have to resort to baseless name-calling and smear tactics when questioned shows the utter bankruptcy of your position.

3/2/2007 7:18:58 PM

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Civil engineer suggests all 3 WTC towers' collapses due to controlled demolition:

http://www.vermontguardian.com/commentary/032007/TwinTowers.shtml

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"Why the towers fell: Two theories

By William Rice
Posted March 1, 2007

Having worked on structural steel buildings as a civil engineer in the era when the Twin Towers were designed and constructed, I found some disturbing discrepancies and omissions concerning their collapse on 9/11.

[...]

The interesting fact is that each of these 110-story Twin Towers fell upon itself in about ten seconds at nearly free-fall speed. This violates Newton’s Law of Conservation of Momentum that would require that as the stationary inertia of each floor is overcome by being hit, the mass (weight) increases and the free-fall speed decreases.

Even if Newton’s Law is ignored, the prevailing theory would have us believe that each of the Twin Towers inexplicably collapsed upon itself crushing all 287 massive columns on each floor while maintaining a free-fall speed as if the 100,000, or more, tons of supporting structural-steel framework underneath didn’t exist
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The politically unthinkable theory

Controlled demolition is so politically unthinkable that the media not only demeans the messenger but also ridicules and “debunks” the message rather than provide investigative reporting.

[...]

The media has basically kept the collapse of WTC Building #7 hidden from public view....Building #7 was a 47-story structural steel World Trade Center Building that also collapsed onto itself at free-fall speed on 9/11."

3/3/2007 1:10:26 PM

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Oh my goodness! salisburyboy blatantly ignored all of the questions that he couldn't answer!

Where have I ever lied or been dead wrong?

Here's a nice piece that should answer some of your questions:

*WARNING - THIS CONTAINS BOTH SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS AND MATH: NATURAL ENEMIES OF SALISBURYBOY*

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"The time required to strip off a floor, according to Frank Greening, is a maximum of about 110 milliseconds = 0.110 seconds. It is rather the conservation of momentum that slowed the collapse together with a small additional time for the destruction of each floor.

Below are calculations from a physics blogger...

When I did the calculations, what I got for a thousand feet was about nine seconds- let's see,
d = 1/2at^2
so
t = (2d/a)^1/2
a is 9.8m/s^2 (acceleration of gravity at Earth's surface, according to Wikipedia), [He gives this reference so you can double check him.]
d is 417m (height of the World Trade Center towers, same source)
so
t = (834m/9.8m/s^2)^1/2 = 9.23s
OK, so how fast was it going? Easy enough,
v = at
v = (9.8m/s^2 x 9.23s) = 90.4m/s
So in the following second, it would have fallen about another hundred meters. That's almost a quarter of the height it already fell. And we haven't even made it to eleven seconds yet; it could have fallen more than twice its height in that additional four seconds. If the top fell freely, in 13.23 seconds it would have fallen about two and one-half times as far as it actually did fall in that time. So the collapse was at much less than free-fall rates.


Let's see:
KE = 1/2mv^2
The mass of the towers was about 450 million kg, according to this - http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2004/EricChen.shtml. Four sources, he has. I think that's pretty definitive. So now we can take the KE of the top floor, and divide by two- that will be the average of the top and bottom floors. Then we'll compare that to the KE of a floor in the middle, and if they're comparable, then we're good to go- take the KE of the top floor and divide by two and multiply by 110 stories. We'll also assume that the mass is evenly divided among the floors, and that they were loaded to perhaps half of their load rating of 100lbs/sqft. That would be
208ft x 208ft = 43,264sqft
50lbs/sqft * 43264sqft = 2,163,200lbs = 981,211kg
additional weight per floor. So the top floor would be
450,000,000 kg / 110 floors = 4,090,909 kg/floor
so the total mass would be
4,090,909 kg + 981,211 kg = 5,072,120 kg/floor
Now, the velocity at impact we figured above was
90.4m/s
so our
KE = (5,072,120kg x (90.4m/s)^2)/2 = 20,725,088,521J
So, divide by 2 and we get
10,362,544,260J
OK, now let's try a floor halfway up:
t = (2d/a)^1/2 = (417/9.8)^1/2 = 6.52s
v = at = 9.8*6.52 = 63.93m/s
KE = (mv^2)/2 = (5,072,120kg x (63.93m/s)^2)/2 = 10,363,863,011J
Hey, look at that! They're almost equal! That means we can just multiply that 10 billion Joules of energy by 110 floors and get the total, to a very good approximation. Let's see now, that's
110 floors * 10,362,544,260J (see, I'm being conservative, took the lower value)
= 1,139,879,868,600J
OK, now how much is 1.1 trillion joules in tons of TNT-equivalent? Let's see, now, a ton of TNT is 4,184,000,000J. So how many tons of TNT is 1,139,879,868,600J?
1,139,879,868,600J / 4,184,000,000J/t = 272t

Now, that's 272 tons of TNT, more or less; five hundred forty one-thousand-pound blockbuster bombs, more or less. That's over a quarter kiloton. We're talking about as much energy as a small nuclear weapon- and we've only calculated the kinetic energy of the falling building. We haven't added in the burning fuel, or the burning paper and cloth and wood and plastic, or the kinetic energy of impact of the plane (which, by the way, would have substantially turned to heat, and been put into the tower by the plane debris, that's another small nuclear weapon-equivalent) and we've got enough heat to melt the entire whole thing.

Remember, we haven't added the energy of four floors of burning wood, plastic, cloth and paper, at- let's be conservative, say half the weight is stuff like that and half is metal, so 25lbs/sqft? And then how about as much energy as the total collapse again, from the plane impact? And what about the energy from the burning fuel? You know, I'm betting we have a kiloton to play with here. I bet we have a twentieth of the energy that turned the entire city of Nagasaki into a flat burning plain with a hundred-foot hole surrounded by a mile of firestorm to work with. - Schneibster edited by Debunking 911

Let me make this clear, I don't assume to know what the ACTUAL fall time was. Anyone telling you they know is lying. The above calculation doesn't say that's the fall time. That was not its purpose. It's only a quick calculation which serves its purpose. To show that the buildings could have fallen within the time it did. It's absurd to suggest one can make simple calculations and know the exact fall time. You need a super computer with weeks of calculation to take into account the office debris, plumbing, ceiling tile etc.. etc... Was it 14 or was it 16? It doesn't matter to the point I'm making, which is the fall times are well within the possibility for normal collapse. Also, the collapse wasn't at free fall as conspiracy theorists suggest."


http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm

The math and science all look sound to me.

Should salisburyboy actually choose to respond to this, I would like to see a thought out response. I've posted numerous scientific examinations of his theories and he immediately dismisses them by calling the writer a shill or a hack - or he simply calls the article "a study in logical fallacies" without actually going into detail about what it got wrong.

Thats right - he dismisses things with slander.

3/3/2007 1:38:02 PM

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ANOTHER DOMINATION OF SALISBURY BOY DELIVERED BY MR JOSHUA

THE SOAP BOX IDIOT DESTROYED AGAIN

3/3/2007 8:13:49 PM

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My whole thing is, if it was an inside job, why would they blow up building 7? You would make things look shady, and would gain absolutely nothing since everybody would be concerned with the towers. But more importantly, how can you continue to blame it on the Jews when a group of Muslims showed no reluctance to take responsibility for the act, and still have not stepped away from this position?

3/3/2007 8:26:50 PM

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great googly moogly is this still on?

3/5/2007 1:23:47 AM

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3/5/2007 3:09:32 AM

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"My whole thing is, if it was an inside job, why would they blow up building 7? You would make things look shady, and would gain absolutely nothing since everybody would be concerned with the towers."


If it weren't for the internet, most people wouldn't even know what WTC Building 7 was or that it even fell on 9/11. In fact, many of the people who still believe the official fairy tale on 9/11 don't know anything about Building 7.

It doesn't matter why they brought down building 7. The bottom line is that they DID. It clearly was brought down in a controlled demolition. And they could have gotten away with it without hardly anyone noticing because they could suppress it via their control of the mainstream media.

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"But more importantly, how can you continue to blame it on the Jews when a group of Muslims showed no reluctance to take responsibility for the act, and still have not stepped away from this position?"


And how do you come to believe that muslims have "taken responsibility" for 9/11? From the propaganda on the corporate/mainstream media? FYI, the tapes that were used to "prove" bin Laden's guilt were fake. They were doctored, mistranslated, and even included bin Laden impersonators. Don't believe me?


BBC: "Bin Laden tape 'not genuine'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2526309.stm

Here is a CNN article referring to a Dec. 2001 video tape that supposedly shows bin Laden taking credit for the 9/11 attacks:

CNN: "Bin Laden on tape: Attacks 'benefited Islam greatly'
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/12/13/ret.bin.laden.videotape/

Now, take a close look at picture of the man from that tape that is purportedly the real Osama bin Laden. Here is a comparison of the photo of the man from that video tape and a photo of the real Osama bin Laden:



It is obvious that the man from the Dec. 2001 tape is not the real Osama bin Laden.

More:

The Fake bin Laden Video Tape
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html

The Fake bin Laden Audio Tape
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/binladen_audio.html

Is the 2004 Bin Laden Video Tape A Fraud?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape2.html

3/5/2007 7:40:18 AM

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Thats funny, you ignored the other posters that completely and utterly dominated you so you could reply to some noob.

You're a farce. A joke bigger than this entire thread. You have become a caricature of yourself. Please die.

3/5/2007 9:21:32 AM

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"You're a farce. A joke bigger than this entire thread. You have become a caricature of yourself. Please die."


If I was really such a joke as you claim, wouldn't you want me to continue to post on 9/11 and other subjects...since it would further delegitimize my position?

But no, you want me to die and stop posting. And TWW troll brigade of JonHGuth et al has done almost everything in their power to try to run me off TWW, spam my threads to distract from my arguments, start cheese threads and then whine to the mods to try to censor me and suspend me, etc.

Why do you want me silenced?? Hmmmmmm...

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3/5/2007 10:59:45 AM

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"Why do you want me silenced?? Hmmmmmm...
"


You silenced yourself with the utter inability to respond to any legitimate request posed before you.

YOU SILENCED YOURSELF.

GAME OVER

YOU LOST

3/5/2007 11:04:32 AM

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"And how do you come to believe that muslims have "taken responsibility" for 9/11? From the propaganda on the corporate/mainstream media? FYI, the tapes that were used to "prove" bin Laden's guilt were fake. They were doctored, mistranslated, and even included bin Laden impersonators. Don't believe me?
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No I don't, because I'm still waiting on the video tape sent to Al jazeera which has someone from Al Qaeda saying that they didn't do it. Wouldn't they deny this claim a little more if they were simply the fall guy?

3/5/2007 11:14:48 AM

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Look at the Dec. 2001 tape used by the media as "proof" that bin Laden had "confessed" to involvement in 9/11. The man on the tape is CLEARLY not the real Osama bin Laden. It is a bin Laden look alike. Look at the CNN article on the tape (which I linked above).

And it doesn't end there. Many of the other tapes are doctored, mistranslated, or fakes.

After knowing this, why would you believe anything the "mainstream"/corporate media says in regard to these tapes supposedly "proving" muslim involvement in 9/11. The corporate/"mainstream" media is clearly lying and complicit in framing Arabs/muslims for 9/11.

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"I'm still waiting on the video tape sent to Al jazeera which has someone from Al Qaeda saying that they didn't do it. Wouldn't they deny this claim a little more if they were simply the fall guy?"


And how do you know what this (or any of the other tapes) really say? From the "translations" (or possibly mistranslations) provided by the MSM?



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3/5/2007 11:48:12 AM

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You silenced yourself with the utter inability to respond to any legitimate request posed before you.

YOU SILENCED YOURSELF.

GAME OVER

YOU LOST

3/5/2007 11:49:51 AM

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"And how do you know what this (or any of the other tapes) really say? From the "translations" (or possibly mistranslations) provided by the MSM?"


Easy solution, speak English in the tape (there are plenty in their organization that do). If they wanted to come out and say they didn't do it, it wouldn't be that hard to do. Yet, there organization seems content with the fact that the world believes that they carried out the attack.

On a side note, were the Jews responsible for the train bombing in Spain too?

3/5/2007 12:25:57 PM

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So, salisburyboy, whats your rationale for ignoring my response?

You ignored it completely so that you could reply to something else by cutting and pasting something that you have already cut and pasted dozens of times.

3/5/2007 3:13:48 PM

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"i'm curious now to what you (salisburyboy) think of the initial attack in the 90's. if the Zionists wanted to so badly bring down the WTC, why did the first attempt fail?"

3/5/2007 10:00:47 PM

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"After knowing this, why would you believe anything the "mainstream"/corporate media says in regard to these tapes supposedly "proving" muslim involvement in 9/11. The corporate/"mainstream" media is clearly lying and complicit in framing Arabs/muslims for 9/11."


All of your "major" sources come from the "mainstream" media. CNN and the BBC are the same people you tirade against in your "Jews control America I'm so upset with life" posts.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

And respond to Mr. Joshua, coward.

3/6/2007 1:58:49 AM

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http://s141.photobucket.com/albums/r43/littlebylittle_2007/?action=view¤t=CNNWTCBothPlanes.flv
definitely missles

3/13/2007 7:03:45 PM

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Excellent videos on explosives in the WTC...all 3 are a must see.

Controlled demolition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDJArP-MfyM

Eyewitness & Media accounts of explosives at WTC
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7094370627958457222

People on street knew WTC tower was going to fall and "explode"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAPPGsFcdJo

3/14/2007 6:52:49 AM

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