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Igor
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And I'm telling you that in my case, virtual keyboard+autocorrect is just as fast if not faster than typing with a full-size physical keyboard with no autocorrect. Maybe I am just not a very accurate touch typist, but it feels like with the virtual keybord there is much less motion envolved hen going from key to key, and you can afford to be sloppy. Tactile experience is not the same, but it may be a matter of getting used to.

10/5/2012 11:23:31 AM

dtownral
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Youre in a group by yourself

10/5/2012 11:26:30 AM

neodata686
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"That's what Blackberry and HTC Win Mo people said back in the day. Than iPhone came out and suddenly virtual keyboard was fast and accurate. "


Not what we're talking about.

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"An actual size keyboard =/= thumb keyboard on a phone. In the case of real keyboards, they always win."


Exactly. No matter what device you're on big or small a physical full size keyboard is always the fastest way to type.

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"And I'm telling you that in my case, virtual keyboard+autocorrect is just as fast if not faster than typing with a full-size physical keyboard with no autocorrect. "


You must be a really really slow typer. I consider myself a rather fast typer. I average 100+ and can hit 120 wpm pretty easily on the apple blue tooth keyboard. I'm also really good at typing on the iPad keyboard but doubt I hit over 50-60WPM. I bet your average iPad typer rarely breaks 30-40 if that.

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"On another note, im pretty excited about Pogo Connect (http://tenonedesign.com/connect.php) Finally, a pressure sensitive stylus for the ipad."


That did look cool. Too bad touch technology response time is so horrible drawing on a tablet won't be like drawing on a physical surface for years to come.

I always refer people to this video to understand how horrible touch technology is today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvQCPLkPt4

10/5/2012 11:29:34 AM

Igor
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Yes I must admit I am not a very fast or accurate typer. I never timed myselt, but i'll do a couple tests this weekend between virtual keybaord and physical kebyoard out of curiosity.

Input delay on tablets is still there, but it has been improving really rapibdly with each generation of software/hardware. It should certainly be no worse than input delay on Wacom tablets. It will never feel exaclty like paper for obvious reasons, but on the other hand you can go from rag to canvas with a flick of a finger. e-Readers still don't feel like real paper, but that does not make them worse, it just makes them different.

10/5/2012 1:11:49 PM

neodata686
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I have a stylus for my iPad 3 and input lag is horrible. Trying to draw something is a pain. Eventually they'll get input lag down low enough where the experience feels like you're writing on a physical surface like paper.

E-reader/e-ink is for reading not writing so screen refresh isn't a huge deal. E-ink display just looks way better than LCD displays. Especially outside.

10/5/2012 1:20:18 PM

AndyMac
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Super crate box free today. Extremely fun and hard as balls.

10/22/2012 1:51:25 PM

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"Yes I must admit I am not a very fast or accurate typer. I never timed myselt"


teehee

10/22/2012 4:01:06 PM

BigMan157
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so are you fools excited about the iPad Mini announcement tomorrow?

10/22/2012 4:49:42 PM

dtownral
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And upgraded iPad3 (lol at anyone who already upgraded to an iPad 3)

10/22/2012 5:42:40 PM

HaLo
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The ipad3 upgrade is likely just the lightning connector, pretty sure most people with ipad3s aren't going to want to upgrade after tomorrow.

10/22/2012 6:12:39 PM

Agent 0
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i will probably see what the market is for the first-gen third-gen ipad (that sounds ridiculous) and if I can buy a new one for ~$100-200 price diff of the market value of my current one id probably sell mine and get the newer one. just for the convenience of being able to carry around one charger. plus with imatch i really only need a 16GB anymore, so i could probably narrow that margin if there is a market for the first iteration of the 3.

[Edited on October 23, 2012 at 1:29 PM. Reason : .]

10/23/2012 1:27:57 PM

AndyMac
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So it's an entirely new generation, 6 months later.

Apple is now Samsung

10/23/2012 1:55:44 PM

El Nachó
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I ain't gonna lie, I'm pretty

10/23/2012 2:11:58 PM

neodata686
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Haha need to sell my iPad 3 already. Can't wait to get rid of Apple. Mini for $329 with only a 1024 by 768 resolution? That sucks.

10/23/2012 2:12:43 PM

gs7
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Wow.

10/23/2012 2:15:32 PM

Kris
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I aint even . I don't see the huge enhancements, my ipad 3's screen is just as good as my iphone 5's, I haven't noticed any sort of lag for the faster proc to matter, and I don't really care that much about the connector or slightly better camera.

10/23/2012 2:17:00 PM

catalyst
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It's an iPad 3S....wait 6 more months for the full refresh that looks more like the iPhone 5 and iPad mini design.

I guess we will be seeing 2 iPads a year now....that is insane.

10/23/2012 2:19:03 PM

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ahahaha

10/23/2012 2:21:10 PM

El Nachó
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"It's an iPad 3S."


To be honest, it feels like the 3rd gen was the 2S (Or I guess 2R) and this new one is really the 3, aka what the 3rd gen should have really been.

10/23/2012 2:21:17 PM

catalyst
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Retina display is significant enough to count as full rev

10/23/2012 2:22:16 PM

AndyMac
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The enhancements aren't enough for me to be jealous or mad or need to upgrade my ipad 3.

Only thing I'm mad about is this lowering the resale value of my ipad in case I want to switch to Surface Pro in January.

10/23/2012 2:26:07 PM

Kris
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^^previous model has retina

10/23/2012 2:27:18 PM

moron
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^^ same here.

It's the iPad 3S. Nice, but not drool-worthy.

[Edited on October 23, 2012 at 2:29 PM. Reason : ]

10/23/2012 2:29:00 PM

Kris
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I would be mad if I got the 3G model, the LTE is a pretty significant upgrade, but the rest of it seems like a solution to a problem I don't have.

10/23/2012 2:45:30 PM

catalyst
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"^^previous model has retina"


we were talking about the previous model

10/23/2012 2:51:14 PM

El Nachó
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^^Previous model has LTE

10/23/2012 2:53:45 PM

Kris
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oic x 2

10/23/2012 2:55:05 PM

catalyst
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someone on another forum mentioned they just want to shift the iPad refresh to the fall and had to cut a cycle short while still staying competitive for the next year

MAKES SENSE TO ME

10/23/2012 3:06:49 PM

HaLo
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I actually don't think so. I think the iPads will start seeing two models a year. There is so much innovation in the market within 12 months that apple actually probably needs to refresh every 6 in order to stay competitive and relevant. Note also that the 4th gen (the one announced today) is the same chassis and screen.

10/23/2012 4:26:01 PM

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Just went ahead and picked up a iPad 3 refurb for $379.

THANKS APPLE

10/23/2012 5:30:25 PM

OmarBadu
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it didn't have 'global' 4G / LTE though - in some countries the iPad 3 is only 3G

10/23/2012 7:26:41 PM

El Nachó
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...says the guy from Australia.

10/23/2012 8:32:08 PM

AndyMac
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Punch quest is awesome. Too bad it isn't making any money

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/31/3577838/punch-quest-iphone-game-struggle

10/31/2012 7:26:58 PM

Kris
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^I've really been enjoying that game as well

11/1/2012 9:51:13 AM

xienze
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^ Good game but they made it way too easy to earn currency, that's their problem.

11/1/2012 10:46:22 PM

gs7
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Amusing read from inside the courtroom when the Judge told Apple it had to apologize for its "apology" to Samsung.

http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/beloff-baked-apple-roasted-britons.html

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"Kitchin LJ then asked how long it would require to take down the existing statement to which the response was 24 hours. Kitchin LJasked: if Apple could take down the offending statement in 24 hours, why could a new one not go up in the same time?

The response from the now flaming Beloff was that, while he appreciated that this was surprising, he was assured by his clients that there were technical reasons. At that point sizeable rocket spouting sparks and flames emanated from the general direction of Sir Robin Jacob. He told Mr Beloff that he could not “believe the instructions which [Mr Beloff] had been given", that Mr Beloff’s instructions “were not good enough” and that if that point was to be pursued he (Sir Robin) would require “an affidavit from the Head of Apple setting out in full detail” why it would take 14 days for Apple (with considerable emphasis on the word "Apple") to do this."


Those crazy Brits.

[Edited on November 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM. Reason : .]

11/2/2012 11:54:32 AM

El Nachó
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That's fucking retarded. Apple complied with the ruling and they got pissy because Apple pointed out how out of touch they were with the rest of the world (and the truth).

[Edited on November 2, 2012 at 1:53 PM. Reason : And holy fuck ^that website is unnecessarily hard to read, in both layout and writing style.]

11/2/2012 1:50:53 PM

Mr. Joshua
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http://www.geekologie.com/2012/11/nooooooooo-really-woman-buys-alleged-ipa.php

11/9/2012 11:42:13 AM

neodata686
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Selling my 16GB AT&T LTE iPad 3rd gen plus ~$210 worth of accessories. I'd take $450 for everything.

11/9/2012 11:48:37 AM

Agent 0
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sold my 3rd gen 32GB Wi-Fi only. replacing it with the new 16GB Wi-Fi + LTE. Now that iMatch is a streaming service as well as cloud storage, I don't need nearly the amount of space on the device.

11/12/2012 11:47:58 AM

neodata686
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Where'd you sell it? I'm not having any luck on CL.

11/12/2012 12:52:19 PM

Agent 0
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CL. I live in DC.

11/12/2012 1:12:02 PM

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Apple is getting so damn lazy, with Jobs dead they have no more creativity/credibility.

11/22/2012 11:20:53 PM

moron
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They can afford to be lazy this revision because no one is really bringing the heat.

Once jellybean and the next one start to ship en masse, Apple will be in a tough spot.

iOS is do for a major revision, or apple is going to go the way of blackberry.

I don't think metro is going to catch on, there are too many things to memorize.

Android isn't going to stay terrible forever.

11/23/2012 2:40:35 AM

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"Metro" is part of Windows 8 for all devices, not only will it "catch on" but there will be more users than android tablet and iOS tablet combined

11/23/2012 9:10:06 AM

Agent 0
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iPads are $41 off on the apple store

11/23/2012 10:38:44 AM

kdogg(c)
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Ordered the wife a 32GB yesterday. Should be here next week, when I'm out of town.



I just migrated her crap from our 2007 black MB to my 2011 MBP. She doesn't know that yet.

Christmas.

11/24/2012 7:03:15 PM

Kris
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Quote :
"They can afford to be lazy this revision because no one is really bringing the heat.

Once jellybean and the next one start to ship en masse, Apple will be in a tough spot.

iOS is do for a major revision, or apple is going to go the way of blackberry."


iOS and OSX have never been the big selling points of Apple products to me. It's the quality of the hardware. I got an iPod touch in 2008, I got a Droid X in 2010, I've used them about the same, yet today the Droid X is falling apart and the battery can't keep a charge longer than half an hour, the iPod touch however has nearly perfect battery life and is fine besides some scuffs. My Macbook is 5 years old, it still works as good as the day I bought it. I can't say that about any other laptop I've owned. I've had to restart my netgear/belkin/linksys/etc routers monthly, I've never had to restart my Airport. I really don't care enough about anything apple to be a fanboy, but I can't stand poor quality in something I have a passion for (electronics).
So iOS might be missing some stuff, but I'll stick with them until they stop blowing their competitors out of the water in hardware quality, and I'll keep paying twice as much until they stop lasting twice as long.

11/24/2012 11:51:48 PM

kdogg(c)
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Correction. 64gb version

11/25/2012 10:47:50 PM

Nerdchick
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http://www.iphonefaq.org/archives/972325

Looks like Walmart is offering the iPad 3 for $399! The announcement makes it seem like there's some confusion surrounding the offer. Anybody seen this deal in person? And would this be a good time to buy an iPad 3? Thanks!

12/16/2012 9:12:56 PM

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