tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
just imagine how much he'd beat fsu by if he had scott wood 3/26/2011 12:37:51 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
He outcoached Hamilton by quite a bit though I'll give him that. 3/26/2011 12:38:11 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148332 Posts user info edit post |
ok Smart has impressed me 3/26/2011 12:39:35 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
destroyed Purdue and GTown
just sayin'
Would I rather have a proven coach like Miller, Stevens, or Barnes? Of course
but c'mon
regardless of whatever players he inherited, dude can coach a team to the elite 8 3/26/2011 12:39:51 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Congratulations, Shaka Smart, you would be at least the 11th best coach in the ACC. People seem to forget that Leonard Hamilton is fucking awful.
Four good games in March doesn't make Smart a good coach, not when his limited experience says he's mediocre.
Paul Hewitt made it to a national championship game. He's available, let's hire him.
[Edited on March 26, 2011 at 12:43 AM. Reason : HE SUCKS I HATE HIM] 3/26/2011 12:41:11 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148332 Posts user info edit post |
in 10 years when K and Roy are retired, Smart will be at least the 9th best coach 3/26/2011 12:43:40 AM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
Give him a little credit. FSU is FSU, but consider that this year they were the 3rd best team in the ACC and they whooped us twice.
Then consider that VCU was totally outclassed physically. FSU was blocking their shots left and right. VCU's players lost their legs and couldn't make FTs down the stretch.
And they still won.
Not saying he's the truth, but he'd do a helluva lot better with our team than 5 conference wins. 3/26/2011 12:45:47 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, i'd take 7 wins a year until we can get a real coach. 3/26/2011 12:46:44 AM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^FSU is not a shit team. They finished 3rd in the conference and beat Duke. They are not the bottom dwellers they used to be---we are.
And quit comparing Hewitt to Smart....it only shows how fucking stupid you are.
[Edited on March 26, 2011 at 12:48 AM. Reason : .] 3/26/2011 12:46:50 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Consider this
FSU is coached by Leonard Hamilton
A guy who should have been fired four years ago
A guy who is basically a really dumb version of Sidney Lowe
Quote : | "FSU is not a shit team. They finished 3rd in the conference and beat Duke. They are not the bottom dwellers they used to be---we are." |
AMAZING TELL ME MORE
Quote : | "And quit comparing Hewitt to Smart....it only shows how fucking stupid you are." |
You guys are wowed by two weeks of play
Dude is praised for his defense and his defense blows
Dude can't even win his stupid-ass conference
[Edited on March 26, 2011 at 12:49 AM. Reason : ]3/26/2011 12:47:28 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
I will laff if VCU beats Kansas and he turns down the job 3/26/2011 12:48:20 AM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
do you guys like any realistic prospective coach? every coach that gets mentioned not named stevens, donovan, barnes or miller gets trashed
[Edited on March 26, 2011 at 12:49 AM. Reason : ^honestly, I thought the same thing] 3/26/2011 12:49:08 AM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A guy who is basically a really dumb version of Sidney Lowe" |
Dumb sounding, I'll give you that. But he's put up better results than Lowe.3/26/2011 12:49:28 AM |
j_sun All American 9198 Posts user info edit post |
here come the lords
3/26/2011 12:49:54 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Dumb sounding, I'll give you that. But he's put up better results than Lowe." |
Barely
He didn't reach the tournament until his seventh season at FSU3/26/2011 12:50:26 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
still not getting it
dude is young, reached an elite 8 with a pretty scrubby squad and had to play an extra game to even get into the dance
let's hire some old dude who's lost already to an ACC team!!!11one 3/26/2011 12:52:19 AM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
Do you think Sid would make the tourney given two more years? 3/26/2011 12:52:29 AM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
the quicker you guys come to grips with the fact that we're getting turgeon/marshall/smart/mooney the happier we'll all be 3/26/2011 12:53:48 AM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do you think Sid would make the tourney given two more years?" |
Probably.3/26/2011 12:54:16 AM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously? What over the past five years would lead you to believe that Lowe could get it together and make the tourney? Are you banking on a 96 team format in the next two years? 3/26/2011 12:56:35 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "dude is young, reached an elite 8 with a pretty scrubby squad and had to play an extra game to even get into the dance" |
Dude finished fourth in his conference
Dude didn't win his conference tournament
Dude finished fifth last year
Dude only has two years head coaching experience
Dude's defense is 109th in the country, offensive rebound 207th, defensive rebounding 306th, tempo 200th (HERB!!!!), defensive eFG 220th
Dude is coaching Anthony Grant's players
Don't be blinded by the light
Body of motherfucking work3/26/2011 12:56:59 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the quicker you guys come to grips with the fact that we're getting turgeon/marshall/smart/mooney the happier we'll all be" |
nah dude, we got Billy Donovan/Sean Miller/Brad Stevens on lock as soon as they lose on purpose in the elite 8 so they can take the job at State
we roll deep and the job practically sells itself!
[Edited on March 26, 2011 at 1:01 AM. Reason : asdf]3/26/2011 12:57:13 AM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Paul Hewitt made it to a national championship game. He's available, let's hire him." |
Look at the roster Hewitt won with, then look at the roster Hewitt got to the title game with. Then tell me with a straight face that GT team isn't 40 times more talented
[Edited on March 26, 2011 at 1:04 AM. Reason : brainfart]3/26/2011 12:57:45 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Why am I even arguing with a guy who doesn't know Texas A&M is in the Big 12 3/26/2011 12:57:51 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
it's all about NOW NOW NOW.
fuck. we'll take a gamble and fall flat on our faces... watch. 3/26/2011 12:58:24 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
hamilton is awful
doesnt change the fact that shaka could be great. 9-0 in postseason now (yea cbi whatever). hey, v had some shitty reg seasons too
plus if he sucks he's probably only making Lowe money and can be fired easily
my worst case scenario is we hire a turgeon or brey, pay them 2.8mil for X years where X is a long ass time and they cant handle the acc for whatever reason (be it greenberg, sendek or tony bennett style) and we cant fire them
[Edited on March 26, 2011 at 1:00 AM. Reason : billy donovans body of work at marshall was what?] 3/26/2011 12:59:25 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Look at the roster Hewitt won with, then look at the roster Smart got to the title game with. Then tell me with a straight face that GT team isn't 40 times more talented " |
Fucking exactly
Look beyond the simple fact that he's made it to the elite eight
Look at the details
Look at what else he's done
(nothing)3/26/2011 1:00:05 AM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
I don't understand why everyone thinks we either hire a big name or we're forced to shut down basketball.
There are plenty of good mid-majors out there who can get us to consistent tourney appearances and 10+ conference wins considering how much talent we have. Walk before you run, and all that.
[Edited on March 26, 2011 at 1:01 AM. Reason : derp] 3/26/2011 1:00:35 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
i forgot they are in the bigXII because TAMU never wins shit. they probably should be downgraded to CSUA or whatever. like anyone ever talks about them these days...
it's the same as forgetting vanderbilt is in the SEC or northwestern is in the big ten
who would you like to hire Ernie? 3/26/2011 1:00:48 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I would hire every single name mentioned in this thread, every coach, every food, every fantasy creature, every person dead or alive
I'd hire them all before Shaka Smart
Quote : | "I don't understand why everyone thinks we either hire a big name or we're forced to shut down basketball." |
Absolutely no one thinks that
[Edited on March 26, 2011 at 1:03 AM. Reason : ]3/26/2011 1:02:03 AM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Seriously? What over the past five years would lead you to believe that Lowe could get it together and make the tourney? " |
Sometimes we look really good. If he came back next year we'd probably win ~6-7 games. Junior Zo Brown + Harrow + Leslie + Senior Wood + Howell + Painter = enough experience and talent to win a couple NCAA tourney games with just about anyone coaching3/26/2011 1:03:42 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
LOL ^ 3/26/2011 1:04:11 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I would re-hire Lowe before hiring Smart 3/26/2011 1:04:19 AM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
Unicorn Credibilty Watch 3/26/2011 1:04:43 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I believe in unicorns more than I believe in Shaka Smart 3/26/2011 1:05:29 AM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Sometimes we look really good. If he came back next year we'd probably win ~6-7 games. Junior Zo Brown + Harrow + Leslie + Senior Wood + Howell + Painter = enough experience and talent to win a couple NCAA tourney games with just about anyone coaching" |
I think you're missing a step there, like going from 6-7 games to the 9-10+ that may be required to actually get in the tourney.3/26/2011 1:05:37 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
you'd re-hire a coach that never made the NCAA tournament over one in the elite 8?
Fuck Debbie Yow, let's hire Ernie for AD! 3/26/2011 1:05:50 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
let's just move on to some other retarded argument.
3/26/2011 1:06:20 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148332 Posts user info edit post |
I have the UNicornn Huskies losing to Kansas in the title game 3/26/2011 1:06:36 AM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
Smart isn't necessarily the answer but he would be a far better coach at State than Lowe. NO QUESTION. 3/26/2011 1:06:46 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
YES QUESTION 3/26/2011 1:07:03 AM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I have the UNicornn Huskies losing to Kansas in the title game" |
Revised bracket? 3/26/2011 1:07:16 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
I had drinks again with Debbie Yows abortionist tonight after the game. Boy do the both of them like to drink! 3/26/2011 1:07:26 AM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
no way, this retarded argument is quite entertaining 3/26/2011 1:07:31 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
capital Qs look strange. 3/26/2011 1:07:47 AM |
bonerjamz 04 All American 3217 Posts user info edit post |
how many more weeks of this will we have to endure? 3/26/2011 1:08:21 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
shaka would have an in with all the west indian and trinidanian ballers
tell me that doesnt get you wet 3/26/2011 1:08:40 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
^^probably one since the tournament ends next weekend
[Edited on March 26, 2011 at 1:09 AM. Reason : asdf] 3/26/2011 1:09:01 AM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
T-minus one week until the next head coach is revealed: Dereck Whittenburg.
"We couldn't take a gamble on a guy with only two years experience." 3/26/2011 1:10:34 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
We'll rock Monte Towe before Whittenburg. 3/26/2011 1:10:56 AM |