AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
That WHOLE TEAM shot around 50%.... His mid range jumper was pretty good.
It was the layups you had to worry about 9/19/2012 3:56:02 PM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
9/19/2012 3:56:24 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
TBDV will be a fine backup center and they can easily sub Warren for Howell if necessary too, they're almost the same height. Leslie and Warren are probably scarier offensively than Leslie and Howell too, based on the Spain games. 9/19/2012 4:00:34 PM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/RCorySmith/status/248497301054697472
Quote : | "Reports that the Wolfpack will play in the Carrier Classic "not true" according to Dwayne Harrison, men's basketball SID at N.C. State. #ACC" |
9/19/2012 4:32:47 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "@ArmstrongWTVD Just off the phone with Thomas Lee of Morale Entertainment, organizers of the Carrier Classic...
Lee said that they are moving to a 'tournament' format in 2013 and that it is 'very likely' that NC State will be included.
When I asked Lee if NC State was 'lobbying for' or had been sought out for a spot in 2013, he said 'a little of both'.
Either way - sure sounds like State's gonna be on a boat in 2013." |
9/19/2012 4:42:17 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
NC State Shit + playing on a boat? Doesn't sound like a good idea to me 9/19/2012 5:07:52 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
I hope we play in charleston.. And I can get a ticket
Wake forest is kind of an odd choice though 9/19/2012 5:08:04 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
I saw Vandenburg practicing his dribble in a canoe on Lake Johnson. I'd say we're a lock for the carrier classic. 9/19/2012 6:10:10 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Painter wasn't even a 50% shooter overall, and he certainly wasn't 50% on that stupid mid range jumper. 42% FG% is really bad for a big man since most of his shots are point blank.
Painter may have done a lot of good things for us, but shooting was certainly not one of them.
Vandy should just worry about playing defense and rebounding. No need to do like Painter and steal shots from our good shooters and give free possessions to the opponent. Every offensive rebound needs to be followed up with either a dunk, layup, or kick out to Scott Wood. 9/19/2012 9:37:42 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Shut up cockian.
Quote : | " NC State Shit + playing on a boat? Doesn't sound like a good idea to me" |
This made me lul9/19/2012 9:46:02 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "@Mark_Gottfried Have read where NC State may play in 2013 Carrier Classic Interesting because I have had zero discussions regarding this event with anyone" |
Hahaha. Weird.9/19/2012 10:03:27 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
#sources 9/19/2012 10:21:07 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
oh twitter. 9/19/2012 11:24:35 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Gott has clearly said that Vandy's role next year will be defense and rebounding. He said that Painter was often brought in and had to cover the other team's top offensive post man in order to limit foul trouble on CJL and Howell. Vandy will be expected to do the same.
I highly doubt he'll be as good in that role as Painter since he is not athletic enough to go outside the paint or stop an explosive player like a McAdoo from going right around him, but if he can use his size to alter some shots and get rebounds, he'll serve his role.
Defensively our team next year will not be anything spectacular (Brown should be a monster on the perimeter, but everyone else is meh). Hopefully our offense is just so high octane that it won't matter that we have gaps in our defense. Who is going to fill CJW's role of covering the other team's best player? Brown? Purvis? 9/20/2012 7:59:33 AM |
BrickTop All American 4508 Posts user info edit post |
wasn't defense one of the concerns some had about Gottfried when we hired him?
I think early on last year there were some serious defensive issues, but it was obvious adjustments were made throughout the year. 9/20/2012 8:49:56 AM |
redirish All American 1299 Posts user info edit post |
If the other defenders are able to force people to make a move to get around them, CJL showed some promise last year blocking shots around the rim when he rotated over to help out. We definitely have guys that are solid on the glass to limit offensive rebounds as well.
On the perimeter we'll have to get better at fighting through screens and Lewis will be a bit of a weakness as bigger guards will be able to just go straight over him. Brown showed a lot of potential for forcing turnovers last season to get the break going and he'll have to do that on a more regular basis this season. Purvis and Lewis will have to also have active hands out there to create deflections and steals because they are both going to see a lot of minutes.
The biggest thing we've got to see is that the team can maintain the intensity for an entire season like they did the last 5 or 6 games of last season. If they do that we have the talent to be a serious contender for the ACC and make a good push in March. 9/20/2012 9:02:43 AM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "or stop an explosive player like a McAdoo from going right around him" |
well someone like McAdoo is gonna be tough for anyone to guard, even Painter. But I think we're all expecting Vandy to get us more blocks than we did last year.
Quote : | "Brown should be a monster on the perimeter, but everyone else is meh" |
c'mon man, Purvis is gonna be great for us on defense. I think he'll be the one to eventually take CJW's role. I agree Lewis will definitely be a liability. And Wood isn't phenonemal, but he doesn't give his man anything easy. At least he'll hustle and force a difficult shot and sometimes trail the play and block the shot from behind. He does pick up cheap fouls though and gets into trouble.9/20/2012 11:04:55 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Dancing dog gif is better when you hit apple + a few times. 9/20/2012 6:17:52 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
wood gave up most of his cheap hand fouls after his ankle injury, he got better late in the season once it had fully healed 9/20/2012 6:37:14 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Wood still has good size and is the best come from behind shot blocker in the history of the game of basketball. 9/20/2012 6:39:29 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
Remember how awesome mcadoo was when he played against us last year?
Oh wait, he wasn't. 9/20/2012 6:45:43 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Yah, I seem to rember hom ducking pretty bad 9/20/2012 11:46:48 PM |
KyleAtState All American 1679 Posts user info edit post |
Today's tribute to the NC State Shit gods
[Edited on September 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM. Reason : ] 9/21/2012 9:48:50 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
You'll be paying tribute to the Shit gods a little later. 9/21/2012 10:06:59 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
oh no he didn't 9/21/2012 10:08:57 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "42% FG% is really bad for a big man since most of his shots are point blank." |
Painter's shots were from point blank???9/21/2012 10:30:11 AM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
Most of his misses were foul line jump shots after he made the game winner against Princeton. 9/21/2012 10:39:12 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "c'mon man, Purvis is gonna be great for us on defense" |
There is no way you can make this assumption until we see him up against some good ACC caliber players. He's got the physical abilities to be a good defender, but often defense is about effort and technique, not just physical gifts.
I used McAdoo as an example of an explosive big man. Whatever he did or did not do to us last year is a weak argument considering he was a 6th man on that UNC team. Let's use a different example, how about Clemson's Devin Booker or Milton Jennings. Both big men that move well, Vandy is likely not going to be able to stop these players as well as Painter. That is all I was saying.
CJL can be a shot blocker for us, but he's got to stay away from picking up ticky-tack fouls so that he can be aggressive as a shot blocker.
[Edited on September 21, 2012 at 10:41 AM. Reason : df]9/21/2012 10:40:45 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "how about Clemson's Devin Booker or Milton Jennings. Both big men that move well, Vandy is likely not going to be able to stop these players as well as Painter." |
Vandy won't be guarding those dudes...well...maybe Booker. Milton Jennings lit us the fuck up last year anyways...regardless who was guarding him.
It's not like we're going to put Vandy on athletic SFs. He'll be guarding opposing team's Centers and big PFs. In the event that he's guarding a quick dude, its more than likely that we're in bad foul trouble and he's out there just to wreck shit.
Vandy will be fine and more than serviceable next year. And hopefully he won't be shooting a ton of 18-footers.9/21/2012 10:49:13 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Vandy will be fine and more than serviceable next year." |
people making this claim: aside from hope, what is it based on?9/21/2012 12:58:15 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
The fact that he had multiple serviceable games (albeit, in limited minutes) toward the end of his sophomore year, and he's had a redshirt year to improve.
[Edited on September 21, 2012 at 1:09 PM. Reason : of course it's speculation, but i'm somewhat hopeful that he'll be a serviceable back-up] 9/21/2012 1:07:02 PM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There is no way you can make this assumption until we see him up against some good ACC caliber players." |
Touché. But at the same time, you can't say that everyone else is meh until we see them play too9/21/2012 1:12:17 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
(we've seen 4/5ths of our starters play against acc caliber opponents) 9/21/2012 1:24:35 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
I think Vandy is really gonna surprise people this year. He won't be a star, but he can really help on the defensive interior if a team is killing us inside.
We lost offense (sort of) with Painter, but we gain a ton of defense with Vandy. And with Warren, Purvis, and Lewis coming on board, offense shouldn't be a problem. Defense could be.
[Edited on September 21, 2012 at 1:48 PM. Reason : And who knows, maybe he developed some semblance of offense in his redshirt season] 9/21/2012 1:46:45 PM |
NastyNos All American 603 Posts user info edit post |
good hype is great but we still haven't played a game.
vandy hasn't done anything yet, we're not sure what he's capable of. it would be great if he or tdt could step up but until they do we can't pencil them in for anything special. all we know right now is we have some studs and talented freshman, but they still have to live up to the hype together. 9/21/2012 2:01:28 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
ITT we state one of three things: 1) obvious shit 2) speculation and 3) complaints and criticism about others speculation based on our own personal prognostications.
And occasionally some actual news. 9/21/2012 2:15:22 PM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
^ haha 9/21/2012 2:26:12 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Honestly if the most questionable thing about our team next year is a 7 footer who comes off the bench, we're in pretty damn good shape. 9/21/2012 2:30:25 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Mother fucker had 8 points, 3 reb, and 1 blk in 16 minutes against Georgia Tech at the end of his sophomore year...didn't miss a shot all game.
He's gonna be DOMINANT this year. 9/21/2012 2:30:25 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Honestly if the most questionable thing about our team next year is a 7 footer who comes off the bench, we're in pretty damn good shape." |
truth9/21/2012 2:33:49 PM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
if he can still lead the team in blocks while coming off the bench, I, for one, will be pleased. 9/21/2012 2:59:26 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
I won't. That would mean none of our starting big men have much shot blocking ability. 9/21/2012 3:08:37 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
I think Vandy has a chance to be solid for this year. The only real question marks about his game are turnovers and rebounding. He's had a lot of problems with both, so that's what I'm interested to see if he's improved. We all know he can block/alter shots and dunk. 9/21/2012 3:09:20 PM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
lots of laughter about Vandy, but I saw a lot of improvement in him in the last few games he played for us. I agree that he's not a major concern for us ... big man depth IS a concern, but that's referencing what's behind Vandy in addition to the foul magnets we have starting for us. 9/21/2012 3:14:10 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
^if nothing else he should be able to absorb some fouls 9/21/2012 3:27:44 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
Gottfried getting paid now.
New contract makes him the 3rd highest paid coach in the ACC in terms of guaranteed money.
http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/1223794.html
Quote : | "Gottfried's annual salary remains at $750,000. His supplemental compensation was increased from $450,000 to $1.2 million, which moves him from ninth to third among the 12 ACC men's basketball head coaches in annual guaranteed compensation. The term of his contract remains unchanged through April of 2018, after having been automatically extended two years by virtue of the Pack’s Sweet 16 appearance last March." |
9/21/2012 4:07:15 PM |
BrickTop All American 4508 Posts user info edit post |
are the promo schedule posters out yet? 9/22/2012 6:19:07 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
loved this article
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/20352234/as-duke-unc-slip-gottfried-has-nc-state-in-position-to-win-acc 9/24/2012 11:36:27 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
this call tonight reminds me of when we won the ACC championship last year and then the refs awarded that limp wristed faggot the basket instead of calling the charge and then allowed Macadouche to foul howell on the game winner with no call 9/25/2012 1:23:11 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Quote : | "Fan interest spins this sport's wheel as much as actual game results, and few programs have a fan base with more character and ability to interpret events through their personal pessimistic prisms than N.C. State. " |
That alliteration made me pre in my pants.9/25/2012 11:04:46 AM |