The easiest class I ever took at State was intro to philosophy. I got at least 110 on every test we had. The professor had extra credit questions like "what is your favorite rolling stones song and why".

There were no athletes in this class.

11/13/2014 9:40:37 AM

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"i wouldn't be at all sad if roy williams had a heart attack from all the stress"

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"maybe i should've said i won't be sad when he has a heart attack."

That's pretty fucked up.

11/13/2014 9:56:45 AM

look if he self-induces a stress attack from blatant years of cheating, and then lying about it, and then stressing out with it hanging over his head... then he dug his own grave/health concerns.

11/13/2014 10:00:53 AM

I don't see why he'd have stress. If he's complicit in the thing he probably thinks it's part of business.

11/13/2014 10:06:40 AM

I'm a well-wisher. In that I don't wish him any specific harm.

11/13/2014 11:07:42 AM

i don't wish any health-harm on any of them.
i do wish they'd be publicly shamed and punished accordingly.

11/13/2014 11:09:34 AM

Narcissists don't stress over wrong doing because they don't see their actions as necessarily wrong.

11/13/2014 11:10:01 AM

^^ that's not how large bureaucracies operate

[Edited on November 13, 2014 at 11:10 AM. Reason : ^]

11/13/2014 11:10:27 AM

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"Quote : "i wouldn't be at all sad if roy williams had a heart attack from all the stress" Quote : "maybe i should've said i won't be sad when he has a heart attack." That's pretty fucked up. "

Hi, you must be new to karma.

11/13/2014 11:42:17 AM

He didn't wish him harm, just said he wouldn't be sad. And honestly, if you are not a fan or know him personally why would you be sad? I wasn't sad when Skip Prosser died.

11/13/2014 11:48:03 AM

I wouldn't be happy that Roy Williams died of a heart attack, but I would be pleased to know that he got what was coming to him. There, I said it.

11/13/2014 11:56:42 AM

Unfortunately, karma is about as real as luck, faith and heaven.

But it would be sad, because he's a living being who's loved by others. Remember guys, we're talking about a game.

^come on dude, let's stop talking about him dying, ok?

11/13/2014 12:01:55 PM

Well, no. He'd be a dead human being that was despised by many for being a fraud, cheater, and liar.

11/13/2014 12:07:40 PM

"got what was coming to him." a heart attack. because you're mad about another team beating the one you like a bunch of times due to cheating, which had no meaningful impact on your life whatsoever. get some fucking perspective, you sorry sack of shit. jesus. the fuck reality do you live in where a severe failure of a critical organ is what someone deserves for something like this?

11/13/2014 12:09:31 PM

I like where this is going.

11/13/2014 12:12:27 PM

seriously. I really don't like the guy, because he coaches UNC and because he seems like an arrogant prick. But I have no desire, nor would get no pleasure from his death, you freaking weirdo.

11/13/2014 12:12:48 PM

You are right. I'm a piece of shit for having a hypothetical emotional response on a message board to an event that hasn't actually happened.

11/13/2014 12:13:23 PM

This is the kind of shit IC etc can rightly ridicule us for

Let's move the fuck on

11/13/2014 12:13:35 PM

Nah, let the Roy Williams white knighting continue.

11/13/2014 12:16:26 PM

white knighting? you seriously think that saying it's a little disgusting to basically say you'd rejoice in the death of a basketball coach is "white knighting"? you've got some issues dude.

buy yeah, moving on...

11/13/2014 12:18:02 PM

If Roy Williams died of a heart attack, would Dean Smith understand what had happened?

11/13/2014 12:20:01 PM

I'm not serious about much of anything on a fucking message board that has a 60 page thread dedicated to the downfall of a hated sports rival. Glad my comments sent you into such a tizzy though.

[Edited on November 13, 2014 at 12:21 PM. Reason : Bullet is mad]

11/13/2014 12:20:20 PM

why does that make you glad? weirdo.

11/13/2014 12:21:21 PM

Because seeing you get upset is entertaining

11/13/2014 12:22:19 PM

If Roy Williams died of a heart attack, which thread would be created first:

Roy Williams Heart Attack Appreciation Thread

or

Roy Williams Circulatory System Credibility Watch

11/13/2014 12:24:32 PM

now you're going to use the tired "he's mad"? lame, dude.

11/13/2014 12:24:46 PM

^^lulz

11/13/2014 12:27:35 PM

page 59 is boring

11/13/2014 12:29:02 PM

Needs Cosby rape memes

11/13/2014 12:31:18 PM

^^

http://chronicle.com/blogs/ticker/chapel-hills-accreditor-to-launch-new-review-in-wake-of-fraud-report/89059

top comment:

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"One of the links above is to a local newspaper report of the forthcoming investigation. A key player in the story, Bobbi Owen, a faculty member and associate dean now on study leave, is emerging as a key voice. She apparently has been identified as knowing about the AFAM classes, pushing to rein them in, and yet not taking action. More critically, she had significant responsibility for contributions to the SACS accreditation process and headed the Independent Study Task Force which did not get to the bottom of the scandal. Glad to see that SACS is beginning to move on this."

[Edited on November 13, 2014 at 12:39 PM. Reason : .]

11/13/2014 12:39:10 PM

Hai guys, remember the last time NCSU's accreditation was reviewed?
















Yeah me neither.

11/13/2014 12:54:28 PM

This is likely unprecedented, but I would _really_ enjoy it if the SACS organization were able to conditionally revoke accreditation. Like they would lay down judgement that UNC would lose accreditation for 3 years, but that could be bypassed if it self-imposed a sacrifice of all NCAA athletics (aka not just post-season) for that same time period. It would allow actual academic students to continue on their merry way without being penalized while placing the hammer on athletics.

That would also keep the NCAA out of this because they are clearly biased as they have a lot to gain by not penalizing the university.

One can only dream, I suppose...

[Edited on November 13, 2014 at 3:16 PM. Reason : ]

11/13/2014 3:15:52 PM

I don't think we've made enough fun of this guy yet

http://chapelboro.com/columns/sports-notebook/arts-angle-egg-uncs-face/

11/13/2014 3:25:24 PM

http://www.wral.com/unc-anticipates-update-on-accreditation-status/14177165/

11/13/2014 3:40:30 PM

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"SACS declined to comment about the contents of the letter."

isn't it technically public record at this point? except for Butch Davis' cell, you're not supposed to be able to hide communication records with a public institution.

[Edited on November 13, 2014 at 3:56 PM. Reason : ]

11/13/2014 3:55:54 PM

they're not going to lose accreditation

11/13/2014 3:57:25 PM

^No, they're not. It would be funny though. For the flagship university to have the same academic reputation as the University of Phoenix?

But in all seriousness, that would be pretty devastating for not just the university, but also the triangle and North Carolina as a whole. It's the reason why this should be taken seriously as a front to the integrity of the university. Losing accreditation would be unthinkable, but the threat of losing it has to be real for the governing body to retain any real authority.

11/13/2014 4:03:58 PM

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"I don't think we've made enough fun of this guy yet"

why am i going to make fun of the world's biggest tar heel homer?

11/13/2014 5:36:12 PM

Couldn't just the AFAM Dept lose accred?




[Edited on November 13, 2014 at 6:03 PM. Reason : ]

11/13/2014 6:00:00 PM

So if UNC is supposed to receive notice tomorrow or Monday, when will the public be told the contents? Can the SACS reveal the ruling if UNC does not after a certain length of time?

Obviously UNC will have to reveal it at some point, however I know they are going to try and sit on this as long as possible unless it hails them as figuring out a new way to teach without teachers or classes or real assignments.

11/13/2014 6:18:47 PM

Look at all the adversity he has had to overcome:

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/assault-charges-dropped-against-hornets-p-j-hairston/14178306/

11/13/2014 6:41:26 PM

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"So if UNC is supposed to receive notice tomorrow or Monday, when will the public be told the contents?"

one thing's for sure -- ESPN will not cover it. It'll be all Peterson, all day

11/13/2014 6:42:28 PM

http://myfox8.com/2014/11/13/duke-university-investigates-possible-academic-misconduct-in-some-computer-science-classes/

Lol at all the UNC fans breathing a sigh of relief. It's unreal to me that people can't see the difference

11/13/2014 6:50:50 PM

nobody seriously thinks every department will be punished

11/13/2014 7:18:17 PM

http://deadspin.com/unc-athletes-were-steered-to-schools-sports-ethics-prof-1658828215

haven't read it yet so i don't know if it contains any new info.

11/14/2014 1:05:28 PM

^Yup. Turns out that despite trying so hard to limit the exposure of the fraud/scandal to just AFAM... Ol bag-faced Jan Boxill was responsible for at least 160 of her own paper classes:

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"Emails show Boxill, a philosophy professor, offered 160 independent study courses between spring 2004 and spring 2012, according to records obtained by The Daily Tar Heel. "

http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2014/11/more-evidence-emerges-on-jan-boxill

Pretty big deal as it shows that at least one other dept was heavily involved in this. I wonder what the % of athletes involved is here. Am guessing it is a little more exclusive, given that she had so much more control over this dept. UNC's public records department would not give the percentage.
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Also interesting that this came out today, just one day after SACS mailed their warning letter to UNC. Obviously UNC is limiting what gets out and has probably assured SACS that it was all limited to AFAM. SACS has had the truth hidden from them at least 2 times now, will they bend over and gladly take another hot steamy UNC load in the face?

[Edited on November 14, 2014 at 1:40 PM. Reason : e21e12]

11/14/2014 1:38:13 PM

This part is, I guess, kinda noteworthy from the article:

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"Again, there is no hard proof of wrongdoing on Boxill's part here, nor any evidence that the independent study courses she oversaw were deficient. But it's notable that investigators never probed the content of Boxill's courses, and that the Wainstein report never even mentioned that athletes were steered to her classes when they needed high grades. "

So the Wainstein investigation was basically confined to the AFAM department. They didn't investigate Boxill's courses. So while it would certainly appear that something fishy was going on with her 160 independent classes...they didn't investigate them to prove they were fraudulent or paper classes.

11/14/2014 1:50:39 PM

you know what all that^ means?

WE NEED AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.

Wainstein was obviously told what he could and could not look at

11/14/2014 1:52:47 PM

The best part about that article:

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"Boxill was embedded in UNC and its athletics program. A master lecturer in the philosophy department, she taught a long-standing class on sports ethics and brought in regular guest speakers like men’s basketball coach Dean Smith. As faculty chairwoman, she attended regular meetings with former Chancellor Holden Thorp’s administration. "

Oh and then this:

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"Hatchell remembers one instance of Boxill discussing the civil rights movement with players on the bus. Boxill, who grew up during the 1960s, told the players stories about Martin Luther King, Jr. “That’s why she was so good,” Hatchell said. “She had such a connection with the athletes.” "

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"Almost all of Boxill’s emails that were released were either her talking about, or to, students. “I will do whatever I can to help you obtain your degree,” she said in one email. In another: “Just talked with Betsy Taylor in Steele Bldg, and she said she is making you a candidate for May, and that we are correct-all you need to do to is to PHIL with an A-!! And THAT will be done!!! This so great.” One student emailed Boxill, asking why she hadn’t heard from Boxill about the independent study course in a few weeks. Another student was looking for a way to get six hours to keep his or her Pell Grant, and Boxill suggested six hours of a philosophy or African and Afro-American independent study."

Martin Luther King Jr. would be proud you dumb twat.





[Edited on November 14, 2014 at 2:00 PM. Reason : _]

11/14/2014 1:53:19 PM

A Prof who teaches Sports Ethics steered athletes into fake classes.

Seriously, who writes the script for this. Unbelievable. Is this real life?

11/14/2014 1:55:40 PM