I am convinced that YOU (salisburyboy) are a conspiracy created by the government to:

1. Prove the need for mental healthcare reform.
2. Prove that the human race is fucking much stupider than previously imagined.
3. Not everyone can be a successful lawyer.

kthx, goodbye

1/10/2004 1:03:06 AM

page6

1/10/2004 1:05:59 AM

nm

[Edited on January 10, 2004 at 1:25 AM. Reason : mistake]

1/10/2004 1:23:28 AM

point proven.

1/10/2004 1:24:00 AM

Hey, sali. You got this thread mixed up with your hate rant thread. This is the thread where you post complete bs . . . well, the other one is that also, so I guess it really doesn't matter where you post your crap anymore.

1/10/2004 1:25:45 AM

You think I wouldn't realize the mistake and quickly fix it?

[Edited on January 10, 2004 at 1:29 AM. Reason : .]

1/10/2004 1:26:58 AM

QWERTY

Edit:

Not really. I am still not convinced that you are not a bot with all the mindless copy/paste bs. Also, your topics and post prove that doing so is not in the least below your intelligence.

PS:

Editting convos suck. If someone has already responded, it is probably best to respond and not edit.



[Edited on January 10, 2004 at 1:39 AM. Reason : edit]

1/10/2004 1:28:34 AM

Here is WTC 7 collapsing. Does this look like the collapse of a building due to "falling debris from the towers" or from a demolition?

1/10/2004 1:50:23 AM

1) Are you sure that is WTC 7 and not one of the buildings that was purposefuly taken down due to structural damage?

2) Can you in any way verify that most of th ebuilding did not collapse inward and just that particular side fell in that fashion?

3) Do you ever respond to questions asked? I asked you 3 times to show me the pod, and you haven't yet.

4) Is there a reason why you seem unable to produce decent size or decent quality images?

[Edited on January 10, 2004 at 1:57 AM. Reason : dagffdsg]

1/10/2004 1:56:37 AM

that building for all we know was taken down in a controlled demolition

LACK OF AN EXPLANATION IS NOT EVIDENCE FOR CONSPIRACY



[Edited on January 10, 2004 at 2:00 AM. Reason : god]

1/10/2004 1:57:44 AM

Yeah I was thinking that too, the building and some of the smoke moves, but noting else chances over those frames. But it's just as likely that it just looks really bad because salisbury can't get anything other than shitty images to backup his points. It's like someone showing you a picture of a black dot on a lake and claiming its conclusive evidence of the Loch Ness Monster.

1/10/2004 2:00:40 AM

salsburysteak, IF YOU POST AN IMAGE OR ANIMATION;

give source, reported time of day, angle, the comment by ORIGONAL source

Unless your data is from a news agency, then dont bother posting it becuase your hack web cites got all there images from the news cites



[Edited on January 10, 2004 at 2:07 AM. Reason : 09]

1/10/2004 2:04:06 AM

Quote :

"Here is WTC 7 collapsing. Does this look like the collapse of a building due to "falling debris from the towers" or from a demolition? "

oh, so now your a fucking demolition expert.

1/10/2004 9:20:09 AM

The FBI confiscated videos from the Sheraton National Hotel and a gas station that captured the "plane" that hit the Pentagon shortly after the attack. These videos have not been released to the public.

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"The cctv video of a "mysterious hotel", not so mysterious in fact as it would be the Sheraton National hotel, is said to have also registered the plane. The video has been viewed by the hotel employees, shocking them. Then the FBI arrived and took the video. ...The NEXCOMM/CITGO-gas station is the last place over which the plane flew before crossing the highway and diving onto the Pentagon. Jose Velasquez, the employee at this station heard the plane, just by the station, then saw the explosion on the Pentagon. Within the minutes after it, he said, FBI came in the station and took the video before he could even see it. http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jpdesm/pentagon/pages-en/fct-videos.html"

[Edited on January 10, 2004 at 12:57 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2004 12:55:49 PM

Quote :

"two lines on a fucking picture show nothing, i have no clue what kind of physics you would need to understand to know what happends to the wings in a high speed collision at high temperatures "

hahahahah

1/10/2004 1:12:49 PM

For those who doubt that the families of the victims of 9/11 are going forward with lawsuits or other action to question the U.S. government about the events of 9/11, here is an interview with Stanley Hilton, who is representing over 400 of the victims of 9/11’s families.

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"(Hilton speaking): Well, we filed the lawsuit last May against Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld and several other of the rest of the terrorists that run the U.S. government for complicity in causing and also in aiding and abetting the 9/11 attacks, in order to promote their political agenda. And, we are in the process, you know these lawsuits, they come and they go in terms of level of activity. And most of it is done, you know, in confidential, called discovery, litigation that is depositions under oath, battles in court to get documents. We are facing very strong resistance from the government. They are claiming national security over everything. They claim they don’t want to release documents, etc. But I represent the people who were victimized by what the government did. I’m also challenging the constitutionality of the so-called USA PATRIOT Act, they call it; the anti-patriot act is what I call it. http://www.prisonplanet.com/jones_report_031403_hilton.html"

1/10/2004 1:36:38 PM

Salisbury, take a moment and hear me out, if you'd be so kind:

First, I just picked up on a slight contradiction. In one place you say:

Quote :

"There is no dispute that planes crashed into the towers."

Then later, using a couple of photographs of planes, you insist that it was not planes that hit the WTC.

But even when taken seriously, the myriad theories presented in this thread just don't add up. They don't seem to relate to each other at all. Basically what we've got here is:

1) Bush knew about the first plane crash and didn't promptly leave a school
2) The Pentagon was not hit by a plane, because its damage is not concurrent with what would be caused by such a crash
3) Because Flight 77 was not, in fact, what crashed into the Pentagon, all its passengers and crew are missing somewhere.
4) The devil's face appeared in the smoke
5) The planes that the gov't said hit the WTC did not hit the WTC, something else did.
6) Whatever that thing was, it didn't cause them to crash
7) Bombs did
8) We let the bin Ladens leave the country
9) The government doesn't want us to make wild conspiracies about all this

So my question is, what is the sum of all these ideas supposed to be? They don't fit together. If indeed 9/11 was not the work of terrorists, then why wouldn't whoever did just hijack the real planes and crash them so they wouldn't get called out like this?

It just seems to me that you (or your sources) are trying to refute the common knowledge on every single detail of 9/11 piece by piece without looking at the big picture. In the broad scheme of things, what most of us believe happened makes a helluva lot more sense than the aggregate of the theories you've presented, even if some of the details don't (although they do).

So I'll ask again what you've been asked a dozen times on this thread, WHAT "REALLY" HAPPENED?

1/10/2004 2:16:29 PM

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"The FBI confiscated videos from the Sheraton National Hotel and a gas station that captured the "plane" that hit the Pentagon shortly after the attack"

And in other new, the sun rose today, there was lightness, and experts predict it will get darker after noon.

The school I work for had 7 laptops stolen at the begining of the year. The police confiscated the laptops from the school after they were recovered, and we haven't gotten them back. It's called gathering evidence. OMFG THE POLICE WERE THE PEOPLE THAT STOLE THE LAPTOPS!!!111 THAT MUST BE IT!!!11!!1!1!!

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"These videos have not been released to the public."

A lot fo shit isn't released to the public. Lack of evidence is not proof.

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"The video has been viewed by the hotel employees, shocking them. Then the FBI arrived and took the video. "

And yet for all the thoughts that this is a government conspiracy and cover up, the employees have not come forwards to anyone, nore have they banded with the firefighters who thought there were bombs, nor have they banded with the conspiracy sites.

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"Well, we filed the lawsuit last May against Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld and several other of the rest of the terrorists that run the U.S. government"

Oh yeah, he sounds like a real respectable lawer. I bet he has a 1-800-MRLEGAL number too

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"But I represent the people who were victimized by what the government did."

I wonder if he's representing the the people suing McDonalds for making them fat too.

1/10/2004 2:17:21 PM

Quote :

"So my question is, what is the sum of all these ideas supposed to be? They don't fit together. If indeed 9/11 was not the work of terrorists, then why wouldn't whoever did just hijack the real planes and crash them so they wouldn't get called out like this? ...So I'll ask again what you've been asked a dozen times on this thread, WHAT "REALLY" HAPPENED? --GrumpyGOP"

I have not claimed to have all the answers to what happened on 9/11/01....far from it. That's why the title of this thread is the question that it is. What I believe is that the evidence does not support the official story by the government. I am looking at the evidence and trying to find out what really happened myself.

[Edited on January 10, 2004 at 2:25 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2004 2:25:25 PM

Quote :

"And yet for all the thoughts that this is a government conspiracy and cover up, the employees have not come forwards to anyone, nore have they banded with the firefighters who thought there were bombs, nor have they banded with the conspiracy sites. --1337 b4k4"

How do you know they haven't? I'm not saying that they have or have not. Just because you aren't aware that they have doesn't mean that they haven't. For all you know, they may have, but the media just hasn't reported it at all or much at all.

[Edited on January 10, 2004 at 2:29 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2004 2:28:32 PM

Quote :

"I am looking at the evidence and trying to find out what really happened myself."

Not to stifle man's inquisitive nature, but what makes a college student from Salisbury with no personal experience with 9/11, or any direct exposure to the evidence or sources at hand, more qualified to assert the reality of events than the overwhelming majority of the nation's populace, virtually everyone directly invovled in the investigation, and likewise virtually everyone who was actually there on that day?

There are things with respect to which historical revisionism makes sense, and there are issues that aren't concrete one way or the other that warrant debate. I just don't see how something this exposed, this broadly witnessed and repoted on, qualifies.

1/10/2004 2:35:27 PM

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"How do you know they haven't? I'm not saying that they have or have not. Just because you aren't aware that they have doesn't mean that they haven't. For all you know, they may have, but the media just hasn't reported it at all or much at all"

Because the media is a business first and foremost. Controversy sells, and a government coverup of this magnitude would sell even better. If you had a pool of people from different places who all have the same story as to what happened, from their personal accounts, that differe from the official story, due to misrepresented or inacurate facts in the official story, that would sell like crazy.

1/10/2004 2:43:14 PM

I haven't seen much media attention given to the lawsuits Stanley Hilton is pursuing or any other lawsuit related to 9/11.

Just because the media is not reporting a situation does not mean that the situation is not occuring.

[Edited on January 10, 2004 at 2:54 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2004 2:45:53 PM

Quote :

"but what makes a college student from Salisbury with no personal experience with 9/11, or any direct exposure to the evidence or sources at hand, more qualified to assert the reality of events than the overwhelming majority of the nation's populace, virtually everyone directly invovled in the investigation, and likewise virtually everyone who was actually there on that day? --GrumpyGOP "

I never said I was "more qualified" than others. I'm merely asking questions and putting forward what I believe to be the evidence. People can view the evidence and come to their own conclusions.

1/10/2004 2:48:01 PM

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&edition=us&q=9%2F11+%2B+lawsuit&btnG=Search+News

Seems like there's plenty of coverage of the lawsuits and the theories surrounding 9/11.

1/10/2004 3:11:09 PM

The words of Stanley Hilton:

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"See the thing is that you look back in ’93 and ’95, Oklahoma City, World Trade Center, and you say well Clinton was in power; whereas now it’s Bush. So you say well how could it be the same players here? The answer is that the shadow government transcends individual political puppets that occupy 1600 Pennsylvania. I mean it doesn’t really make much difference whether it’s Clinton or Bush. The shadow government, as I call it, essentially is continuous. These bureaucrats that you’ve got there at the Pentagon, State Dept., White House, etc., they stay on. They stay on from administration to administration pursuing a certain agenda. And I think this is all part of a pattern. And the latest example, manifestation was 9/11. http://www.prisonplanet.com/jones_report_031403_hilton.html"

1/10/2004 3:26:13 PM

talk of a shadow government means instant credibility... seriously, it does

1/10/2004 3:33:28 PM

Alex Jones speaking of Stanley Hilton:

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"Again, this guy knows what he’s talking about. He has worked with some of the highest levels in the U.S. government, in the U.S. Senate... http://www.prisonplanet.com/jones_report_031403_hilton.html"

1/10/2004 3:37:17 PM

It's very interesting that a search of the internet for Mr. Hilton turns nothing up on him except that he was Dole's aide years ago, wrote a couple books, and practices out on california.

I would think that someone with such a big message to get out would have a web site dedicated to his cause, at least to update the people interested.

BTW, according to this http://www.lightwatcher.com/culturejam/bush_sued_over911.html

Mr. Hilton seems to think he has evidence that Osama died 10 years ago. Which I'm sure is very suprising to much of the world.

Findlaw.com does not even list any entries for Mr. Hilton.

1/10/2004 3:41:10 PM

Hilton apparantly went to Harvard:

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"SH: No, it’s just a blank check for the government to completely destroy democracy and torture any dissenter. You know, Alan Dershowitz, the so-called professor of law at Harvard, which is my alma mater, at Harvard University Law School. He’s the one who is coming out with calling for torture. I believe he testified before a Senate Committee a few weeks ago... http://www.prisonplanet.com/jones_report_031403_hilton.html"

1/10/2004 3:50:34 PM

Now be careful how you answer this:

Are you implying that a degree from Harvard or other big name school makes you intelligent, capable of reasoning and rational thinker?

1/10/2004 3:54:11 PM

I'm not saying that he must be right (or wrong) because he went to Harvard ....I'm just trying to provide information on Hilton.

[Edited on January 10, 2004 at 3:58 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2004 3:58:19 PM

More interesting claims by Alex Jones:

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"AJ: And by the way, Putin got his war, he was caught blowing up apartment buildings. That’s mainstream news, blaming it on the Chechens. ...Yitzhak Rabin, right before he was assassinated by Mossad, was a good man for telling the truth, said, “I apologize.” He said it at Tel Aviv University, the Jerusalem Post reported, for the fact that Israel founded Hamas to destabilize the region so there could never be a true peace. http://www.prisonplanet.com/jones_report_031403_hilton.html "

1/10/2004 4:02:11 PM

So here's what we have on Mr. Hilton:

He practices in San-Fran

He was na Aide to Dole at one point

He's writen and handful of books, apparently on politics

And he claims he wen to Harvard, although according to http://www.pmalitfilm.com/bio.html he graduated from Duke Law School

1/10/2004 4:06:23 PM

Maybe he went to Harvard, but didn't graduate there. I don't know. Maybe the link you provided made a mistake. Good find though.....

Alex Jones and Stanley Hilton on the opinion of Europeans respecting who carried out the 9/11 attacks:

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"AJ: Well, it’s amazing. You know the world is getting wise to this. The majority of people in Europe and I’ve read the polls, are saying the globalists carried 9/11 out. SH: Oh yeah. http://www.prisonplanet.com/jones_report_031403_hilton.html"

[Edited on January 10, 2004 at 4:14 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2004 4:11:26 PM

More from the interview:

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"SH: Let me just tell you, one of the people we’ve interviewed for the case is a former top official at FEMA, who was there during the Reagan Administration and the first Bush Administration. And, again, FEMA being one of the agencies that would swing into action in the event of an “emergency” would have blueprints for establishing martial law in this country. AJ: Sir? Mr. Hilton? Mr Hilton? Hold on. We posted mainstream news articles last week where they admit giant one-million man concentration camps with, this is Rocky Mountain News, with incinerators, mass graves already ready. Kevin: They are taking some tips from Hitler, huh? AJ: Tell me. Mr. Hilton, I’m not joking, I’m serious. SH: I believe it. I believe it. Yeah, these people are dangerous, they’re criminals. http://www.prisonplanet.com/jones_report_031403_hilton.html "

1/10/2004 4:41:52 PM

Jones and Hilton on what may be ahead:

Quote :

"AJ:...I have AP, Reuters, CVC, Washington Post - this sounds so crazy, this is not my opinion. Just like the incinerators or torturing kids, I mean they are saying all this. It is in my film, “Road to Tyranny” and “Masters of Terror,” both of them, where they say - they have signed deals to bring Dutch, Check Republic, Mexican, Canadian, British, and yes Israeli, all of these people here. I’ve been to training ops where they train to put us in camps. They have signed the deals to bring them in to “deal with American terrorists.” Mr. Hilton, have you heard about that? SH: Yes, I have. I think, I’ve heard from the person that I mentioned before that was from FEMA. There is definitely an agenda here. I mean this is something that is truly I think of world historical significance with what’s down the line here. I mean this is not a minor thing. This is not about finding who caused 9/11, we know who did, he’s sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania. That’s where he is. I mean, we know who did it. But this is all about this larger entity, what they are trying to do. This is - if you look again from the historical perspective, there have been others in history who had similar goals. This one (garbled) has high technology and they are pulling the wool over Americans’ eyes with the media axe, the mass media axe as they call them. http://www.prisonplanet.com/jones_report_031403_hilton.html"

Think carefully about that last part. The mass media (and especially television) is highly influential and would be a prime manner to influence the public. Most people get their "news" from the mainstream tv news channels. What is even more influential than telling lies, however, is to be silent on the truth. More can be accomplished by hiding the truth than seeking to lie about it once it has gotten out.

1/10/2004 5:04:14 PM

despite my theory (see top of pg. 6) that you are a conspiracy created by the government, salisbury boy, i can no more trust your information than anyone else - i say this on the sole fact that you have edited so many of your responses - as such, i have lost my trust of both the sane, and insane (you).

1/10/2004 7:57:59 PM

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"The majority of people in Europe and I’ve read the polls, are saying the globalists carried 9/11 out. "

What polls? What evidence?

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"And, again, FEMA being one of the agencies that would swing into action in the event of an “emergency” would have blueprints for establishing martial law in this country. "

Yes, and it's fully constitutional. In fact, the constitution allows for Martial Law in times of emergency. Tell me, would you say it would be stupid to not have a plan for how to impliment Martial Law should the need arise?

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"mainstream news articles last week where they admit giant one-million man concentration camps with, this is Rocky Mountain News, with incinerators, mass graves already ready."

Proof please.

Quote :

" they have signed deals to bring Dutch, Check Republic, Mexican, Canadian, British, and yes Israeli, all of these people here. I’ve been to training ops where they train to put us in camps. They have signed the deals to bring them in to “deal with American terrorists.”"

Proof, evidence?

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"This is not about finding who caused 9/11, we know who did, he’s sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania. That’s where he is. I mean, we know who did it"

Unsubstantiated claims without proof or evidence, the mark of a true professional.

Quote :

"they are pulling the wool over Americans’ eyes with the media axe, the mass media axe as they call them. "

And Bush with his foot soldiers at Fox news bullied CNN into not reporting things.

1/10/2004 9:47:00 PM

The utter failure of the U.S. military to scramble fighter jets (quick enough) to intercept the "four hijacked aircraft" is one of the most glaring pieces of evidence pointing to government complicity in the Setpember 11th attacks. It is standard procedure for U.S. fighter jets to be scrambled to intercept aircraft under emergency conditions. For example, military jets were sramble and intercepted golfer Paine Stewart's plane in less than 20 minutes.

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"Andrews Air Force Base is a huge military installation just 10 miles from the Pentagon. On 11 September Andrews had two squadrons of fighter jets with the job of protecting the skies over Washington D.C. They failed to do their job. Despite over one hour's advance warning of a terrorist attack in progress, not a single Andrews fighter took off (or scrambled) to protect the city. The FAA, NORAD and the military have cooperative procedures by which fighter jets intercept commercial aircraft under emergency conditions. These procedures were not followed. Air Force officials and others have tried to explain away the failures: "Air Force Lt. Col. Vic Warzinski, another Pentagon spokesman, [said]: 'The Pentagon was simply not aware that this aircraft was coming our way, and I doubt prior to Tuesday's event, anyone would have expected anything like that here.'" --'Newsday,' 23 September 2001 Using information from the mass media and official Websites, we will show that this is a lie. http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/indict-1.htm"

[Edited on January 11, 2004 at 10:49 PM. Reason : .]

1/11/2004 10:43:19 PM

They aren't going to randomly scramble jets untill they have a basic idea of where things are.

1/11/2004 11:13:11 PM

Another glaring hole in the official story is the evidence surrounding the "19 hijackers." Several of
these "hijackers" have now been found to be alive. Also, none of the "hijackers" real names
appears on any of the passenger lists of the four "hijacked planes."

Quote :

"If 19 Arabs hijacked the planes, why are there no Arabic names on any of the passenger lists? If they used non-Arabic aliases, which of the "innocents " on the lists are alleged to be the hijackers? If they are alleged to have been using non-Arabic aliases (19 obviously Arabic men got on board using non-Arabic ID, with 100% success rate ?), why did the FBI claim that they were traced through the use of credit cards to buy tickets in their own names? If 9 of the alleged hijackers were searched before boarding...why is there no airport security footage of them? How did they (allegedly) get on board with knives, guns, AND electronic guidance systems, while being searched, but avoiding security cameras and not being on the passenger lists? What aliases were they alleged to be using when they were searched,and if they were not using aliases, why are they not on the passenger lists? ...The story gets better all the time. They somehow got on board with masks, gas, guns, knives and electronic guidance systems, in spite of being searched, didn't show up on the airport security cameras, and were not on the passenger lists. They left flight manuals in Arabic in rented cars outside the airport (last minute brushing up on the way there, about how to fly the things!) and then crashed the planes in breath taking displays of skilled piloting. Just to make sure we knew who they were, their passports were conveniently found in spite of fiery crashes which incinerated the planes and occupants. So they got on board with false IDs but used their real passports? http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jpdesm/pentagon/investigation77.htm"

The government claims they found the passports of the "hijackers" in the rubble. Why do people believe this stuff?

[Edited on January 11, 2004 at 11:40 PM. Reason : .]

1/11/2004 11:35:45 PM

Quote :

"19 obviously Arabic men got on board using non-Arabic ID, with 100% success rate ?"

I know a guy who moved here from Vietnam and changed his name to Frank McMillan, and he looks about as Vietnamese as they come. You aren't allowed to ban passengers from your flight because their names don't correspond with their races.

Quote :

"The story gets better all the time. They somehow got on board with masks, gas, guns, knives and electronic guidance systems, in spite of being searched"

The boxcutters were allowed on the flights -- searches wouldn't have prohibited them. Same with electronic guidance systems. I've never heard any of this "gas" nonsense before, and the nonfunctionality of your link leaves it without any support at all. And where do these "guns" come from? Never heard of those being involved either. It was always boxcutters, plain and simple.


Let's look at one of your own sources on this:

Quote :

"The hijackers did not use firearms, which would probably have been detected, but apparently wielded box- cutter knives of the type that were then allowed on board but are now banned."

So we have clarified that they were allowed to have the kinves and that they didn't have guns.

1/11/2004 11:43:41 PM

Let's go back to the Pentagon. Supporters of the official government story say that the reason the "757" didn't leave an enormous hole in the Pentagon's wall is because the Pentagon is a "fotress." Furthermore, they say the reason that 100 tons of 757 reckage is not found is because the aircraft "incinerated." Yet, whatever hit the Pentagon penetrated 3 "rings" of the building. Whatever hit the pentagon only made an entrance hole in the outer wall of the Pentagon approximately 12 feet wide...and made a relatively small exit hole in the 3rd "ring" approximately 10 feet in diamter.

Here's a good (short) examination of the Pentagon attack: http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm

[Edited on January 11, 2004 at 11:57 PM. Reason : .]

1/11/2004 11:55:17 PM

Salisburyboy, please respond to my last post -- I thought I kept it civil and logical enough that it would be "worth responding to."

1/12/2004 12:07:44 AM

And all of that was quite well explained in a site which YOU LINKED TO PREVIOUSLY. here it is for the 3rd time just incase you didn't get it the first time:

http://libertyboy.free.fr/misc/attack/2001_09_11_pentagon_plane/
http://libertyboy.free.fr/misc/attack/2001_09_11_pentagon_plane/
http://libertyboy.free.fr/misc/attack/2001_09_11_pentagon_plane/
http://libertyboy.free.fr/misc/attack/2001_09_11_pentagon_plane/
http://libertyboy.free.fr/misc/attack/2001_09_11_pentagon_plane/
http://libertyboy.free.fr/misc/attack/2001_09_11_pentagon_plane/
http://libertyboy.free.fr/misc/attack/2001_09_11_pentagon_plane/
http://libertyboy.free.fr/misc/attack/2001_09_11_pentagon_plane/

1/12/2004 12:09:44 AM

Quote :

"Let's go back to the Pentagon. Supporters of the official government story say that the reason the "757" didn't leave an enormous hole in the Pentagon's wall is because the Pentagon is a "fotress." Furthermore, they say the reason that 100 tons of 757 reckage is not found is because the aircraft "incinerated." Yet, whatever hit the Pentagon penetrated 3 "rings" of the building. Whatever hit the pentagon only made an entrance hole in the outer wall of the Pentagon approximately 12 feet wide...and made a relatively small exit hole in the 3rd "ring" approximately 10 feet in diamter. Here's a good (short) examination of the Pentagon attac"

it's a conspiracy. bush really did plan 9/11 in order to set event in motion that would lead to his invasion of iraq and rape america's consitiution by inacting teh patriot acts

1/12/2004 1:10:29 AM

why would bush lie about a plane crashing into the pentagon??????????????????????????? even though bush is a lying scoundrel i don't understand why he would lie aobut this

1/12/2004 1:11:56 AM

Quote :

"Check Republic"

Your "source" http://www.prisonplanet.com loses all crediability...it's not even close to an accidental misspelling. There is a huge difference in Czech and Check...they're not even pronounced the same...

i don't even know whay I'm responding to some moron pontificating on a load of bullshit

1/12/2004 11:16:46 AM

lol thats insane, can you link me to the text where they use the phrase 'check republic', or let me know if it is in the crap above bc i refuse to read that horse shit

1/12/2004 11:31:34 AM