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7/26/2006 11:54:33 AM

I'd just like to give a public thanks for helping me learn more. I asked like eleventy billion questions last night and I feel a lot better now that I know something about it

He was very open (save telling me where he gets it, which I guess is still understandable.) and answered my questions and was very happy I was being so open about it.

7/26/2006 11:54:48 AM

man this thread is making me wish i did drugs again

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 12:03 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2006 11:55:40 AM

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"i hope you never take caffeine or aspirin cause then you'd be a hypocrite druggie"

again...i thought i made it clear that all of my comments were made in reference to recreational drug use...reading comprehension, my friend

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 11:57 AM. Reason : .]

7/26/2006 11:56:28 AM

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"our ideas of fun are obviously different...mine are constructive, yours are destructive"

First of all, who the fuck are you to say some shit like that to anyone? You don't know me or what I do with my spare time, you just assume that because I occasionally partake in a drug that I am some complete burnout who is destined for nothing. You are wrong, and I hope you don't make that assumption about everyone. You are really going to miss out on a lot of amazing people in your life if you hold these extremely narrowminded and ignorant views.

I pity you.

7/26/2006 11:58:35 AM

if you get jammed up don't mention my name^^^

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 11:59 AM. Reason : ^]

7/26/2006 11:58:54 AM

I NEED WEED, SON

7/26/2006 11:59:03 AM

7/26/2006 12:00:02 PM

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"First of all, who the fuck are you to say some shit like that to anyone? You don't know me or what I do with my spare time, you just assume that because I occasionally partake in a drug that I am some complete burnout who is destined for nothing. You are wrong, and I hope you don't make that assumption about everyone. You are really going to miss out on a lot of amazing people in your life if you hold these extremely narrowminded and ignorant views. I pity you."

i don't recall saying you were a burnout...my opinion is JUST as valid as yours and my opinion is that your choice to alter your state of mind through the use of an illegal substance is destructive...i am who i am, i can say what i want to you or about you...these people that i "miss out" on are not worth my time...you can pity me as much as you want, but as i'm sure you're well aware, the feeling is mutual

7/26/2006 12:01:37 PM

i am glad to see you put so much faith in the US legislative branch

7/26/2006 12:03:08 PM

i do...

i do all types of shit because they tell me too

7/26/2006 12:03:34 PM

^^Jeezy a gangsta he rolls wit the real g's
And if he's smokin best believe its real trees
From L.A. Straight kush

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 12:05 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2006 12:04:55 PM

How do you know they are not worth your time? You are making a base judgement and saying that everyone who has/does do drugs is pathetic and not worth your time, correct? That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

7/26/2006 12:04:57 PM

is that what this thread is about?

jesus

7/26/2006 12:05:32 PM

^^^^^ you're right...if they made it legal, it would be just as dumb...thanks for pointing that out

^^ i also make the assumption that serial rapists and child molesters aren't worth my time...is that wrong? should i get to know them first before i make a snap decision? again, i also know that gay anal sex is something i don't want to do...should i try it first to make sure? how was it for you - after all, YOU wouldn't judge something before doing it, right?

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 12:08 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2006 12:05:34 PM

PRESIDENTIAL SHIT...CALL IT GEORGE BUSH

7/26/2006 12:06:01 PM

youngbloodz<3

7/26/2006 12:07:34 PM

Young Jeezy - Lets Get it - Thug Motivation 101 (Screwed & Chopped by DJ LU)

7/26/2006 12:08:04 PM

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"you are the person who will contribute to more users by fooling them with promises of life-changing experiences, i applaud you on your fine accomplishment in life "

i would never pressure anyone into a drug they didnt want to. I have been on both sides of the street. I was hardcore straightedge until i was 22 years old. no alc., ciggs or drugs

and if you think im just some dumbass stoner, then how would i have almost 2 million dollars in sales this year and we are not even finished with July

7/26/2006 12:08:41 PM

I wonder if this dude knows that without weed their would be a significant decrease in the amount of good music/art around.

^IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU DO IN LIFE!!! ALL THAT MATTERS IS WHETHER YOU'VE DONE DRUGS OR NOT!!! YOU ARE A FAILURE AT LIFE BECAUSE YOU DO!!!!

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 12:09 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2006 12:08:42 PM

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"again...i thought i made it clear that all of my comments were made in reference to recreational drug use...reading comprehension, my friend"

have you ever drank a caffeneited (woah i butchered that spelling) beverage in order to wake up more in the morning? fucking druggie

better question quagmire...have you yourself ever had a few beers? ever taken a hit or two of weed in your life? just as experimentation? i'm not talking shit if you have or havent...just wondering if you have personal experience

and yes i know you can tell that jumping off a cliff is not a good idea even without personal experience...but have you ever drank or smoked? ie done any of the "softer" drugs?

7/26/2006 12:08:54 PM

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"I wonder if this dude knows that without weed their would be a significant decrease in the amount of good music/art around."

i'm also aware that drugs are not the sole inspiration for good music/art...are you?

7/26/2006 12:11:11 PM

^,^^

7/26/2006 12:11:32 PM

honestly they need to make alcohol illegal and pot legal

7/26/2006 12:11:44 PM

there would be no jazz if it wasnt for pot

weed was the founding father of jazz

7/26/2006 12:12:03 PM

Not the sole inspiration, but most of the legends have abused drugs at some point.

7/26/2006 12:12:08 PM

most people have experimented so they're not as deadset closeminded as some people

7/26/2006 12:12:52 PM

i agreed that drugs are bad for you but that does not mean that the people that do them are bad. You need to get some faith in people man.

7/26/2006 12:14:08 PM

quagmire, i ask that you read over these links

http://www.friendsofcannabis.com/

http://www.slatts.fsworld.co.uk/famous.htm

then tell me that all these people are pathetic

7/26/2006 12:14:14 PM

there would be no jazz if it wasnt for pot heroin

7/26/2006 12:15:19 PM

quagmire seems like one of those people thats like "hell yeah lets get drunk" but thinks weed is bad

7/26/2006 12:15:23 PM

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"i've seen so many people i once called friends screw up their lives that it's kept me from even wanting to try it"

drugs didn't screw up their lives, they did on their own. they let the drug control them and made a habit. i've seen so many people screw up their lives too and i've been with them doing drugs since middle school. and i'm doing them now. so far i haven't seem to screw up my life yet.

^ and alcohol is more lethal than marijuana.

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 12:16 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2006 12:15:43 PM

i've seen people fuck up their lives who have never done drugs

its like the video games cause violence argument

like there werent acts of violence before video games

7/26/2006 12:16:22 PM

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"have you ever drank a caffeneited (woah i butchered that spelling) beverage in order to wake up more in the morning? fucking druggie better question quagmire...have you yourself ever had a few beers? ever taken a hit or two of weed in your life? just as experimentation? i'm not talking shit if you have or havent...just wondering if you have personal experience"

no, i have never used a caffeinated beverage in order to wake up in the morning...ever

the most alcohol i have had at one time is either two "beers" or two shots over the course of about 90 minutes...about two glasses of wine over the course of two hours...i have not experimented in any type of drug because i value my ability to have control over myself...i have already said, several times, that i am not arguing its fun factor because i have no experience

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"honestly they need to make alcohol illegal and pot legal"

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"quagmire seems like one of those people thats like "hell yeah lets get drunk" but thinks weed is bad"

again with the reading comprehension...i've never BEEN drunk and don't feel the need to

7/26/2006 12:17:25 PM

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"i've seen people fuck up their lives who have never done drugs its like the video games cause violence argument like there werent acts of violence before video games "

Ding ding ding.

7/26/2006 12:18:03 PM

you know you are not in control of yourself even when you are sober right?

7/26/2006 12:19:57 PM

some history for you

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"The Chinese emperor Shen-nung is reported to have taught his people to grow hemp for fiber in the twenty-eighth century B.C. A text from the period 1500-1200 B.C. documents a knowledge of the plant in China- -but not for use as fiber. In 200 A.D., the use of cannabis as an analgesic was described by the physician Hoa-tho.[44] The Chinese emperor Shen-nung is reported to have taught his people to grow hemp for fiber in the twenty-eighth century B.C. A text from the period 1500-1200 B.C. documents a knowledge of the plant in China- -but not for use as fiber. In 200 A.D., the use of cannabis as an analgesic was described by the physician Hoa-tho.[44] In India the use of hemp preparations as a remedy was described before 1000 B.C. In Persia, cannabis was known several centuries before Christ. In Assyria, about 650 B.C., its intoxicating properties were noted.[44] Except for Herodotus' report that the Scythians used the smoke from burning hemp seeds for intoxication, the ancient Greeks seemed to be unaware of the psychoactive properties of cannabis. Dioscorides in the first century A.D. rendered an accurate morphologic description of the plant, but made no note of intoxicating properties.[10] In the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries, Arabic writers described the social use of cannabis and resultant cruel but unsuccessful attempts to suppress its non-medical use.[44] Although Galen described the use of the seeds for creating warmth, he did not describe the intoxicating qualities of hemp. Of interest is the paucity of references to hemp's intoxicating properties in the lay and medical literature of Europe before the 1800s.[44] The therapeutic use of cannabis was introduced into Western medicine in 1839, in a forty-page article by W. B. O'Shaughnessy, a thirty- year-old physician serving with the British in India.[27] His discussion of the history of the use of cannabis products in the East reveals an awareness that these drugs had not only been used in medicine for therapeutic purposes, but had also been used for recreational and religious purposes. O'Shaughnessy is not primarily known for his discovery of hemp drugs, but rather for his basic studies on intravenous electrolyte therapy in 1831, and his introduction of the telegraph into India in the 1850s.[26"

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 12:20 PM. Reason : sdf]

7/26/2006 12:20:08 PM

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"the most alcohol i have had at one time is either two "beers" or two shots over the course of about 90 minutes...about two glasses of wine over the course of two hours...i have not experimented in any type of drug because i value my ability to have control over myself...i have already said, several times, that i am not arguing its fun factor because i have no experience"

you have not experimented in any type of drug? except "beers" and shots

but experimenting with alcohol isnt experimenting with drugs

hypocrite

7/26/2006 12:20:13 PM

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"drugs didn't screw up their lives, they did on their own. they let the drug control them and made a habit. i've seen so many people screw up their lives too and i've been with them doing drugs since middle school. and i'm doing them now. so far i haven't seem to screw up my life yet."

i agree that they screwed up their lives...marijuana is mentally addictive, but that is the fault of the person, not the drug...hence the reason i say that the people are pathetic

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"and alcohol is more lethal than marijuana."

this is an awful argument...in excess, ANYTHING can be lethal, water included...just because alcoholism is more prominent due its legality does not make it more lethal

i've got to run for a bit, kids, so if i don't respond it isn't because i've run away...i DO have a job, after all...additionally, i WILL look at your links gunzz...it helps to see where the other side is coming from

7/26/2006 12:20:40 PM

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"marijuana is mentally addictive"

HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE NEVER DONE IT?!?!

I enjoy weed, but it is not addictive. Under that reasoning, anything that people enjoy is mentally addictive. Having the desire to do it again and enjoying it is NOT being addicted.

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"in excess, ANYTHING can be lethal"

Yeah, have you ever heard of anyone overdosing on weed? Please know what you're talking about.

[Edited on July 26, 2006 at 12:24 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2006 12:23:56 PM

quagmire you are correct in anything being lethal

however if you drink a half gallon of everclear you will probably die

if you smoke a pound of weed...well let me put it to you this way...the lethal dose of weed in LAB RATS is about 60 pounds of smoke in one inhalation

you can technically flush all the minerals out of your system with drinking too many gallons of water and die that way before you overdose on weed

find me ONE SINGLE INSTANCE where a person is documented to having died from a marijuana overdose...just one single instance

my biggest complaint about weed is its demotivation...but i still get up m-f to work my nine nickel

7/26/2006 12:25:19 PM

I find it easier to wake up in the morning after smoking the night before.

7/26/2006 12:26:42 PM

in the 10k years weed has been on the planet
there has not been one reported death by overdose using pot

7/26/2006 12:26:53 PM

i was told that a human would have to smoke a pound a day for 2 years straight to be lethal

7/26/2006 12:27:04 PM

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"i still get up m-f to work my nine nickel"

haha, damn straight

7/26/2006 12:27:25 PM

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"i'm close-minded because i find pleasure in life instead of relying drugs that alter my state of mind? this makes me intelligent instead of stupid"

so if i take up a beer to alter my state of mind, that makes me stupid... if you're so intelligent as you proclaim, why don't you do some research on marijuana and come up with a conclusion for yourself? so far, your only defense against using drugs is you don't want to alter your state of mind for fun and you've seen it fuck up people' lives. same shit can be said with alcohol. even though it's not a drug, it's recreational purpose is still the same.

7/26/2006 12:30:13 PM

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"this is an awful argument..."

NO! this is in fact true. there is no known lethal dose for marijuana. even if there were, you can't attain it through smoking. only through eating it. and even if you manage to eat a whole brick, your body with through it out before it even digest it.

7/26/2006 12:33:41 PM

well there is a lethal dose

but considering if somehow you found pounds of weed for $100, for math purposes...you'd have to concentrate about $6,000 worth into one hit...and thats just to kill a rodent who weighs many times less than a person!

7/26/2006 12:39:40 PM

Imagine if you COULD find pounds for a hundred bucks... *sigh*

7/26/2006 12:40:19 PM

its very fun to get dogs and cats high

7/26/2006 12:40:48 PM