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10/17/2006 1:32:54 AM

Yup, this and Jericho are my favorite new shows.... this one probably moreso than Jericho

10/17/2006 2:18:36 AM

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" The end of every episode of this show leaves me feeling so unsatisfied."

What other show has a cheerleader with her chest cut open walking around, and a ninja from the future?

I like this show a lot, but it's a really easy concept to screw up. I'm not sure how I feel about their destiny being laid out in a comic book (that's where it seems to be going).

Also, at the end of the last episode, they showed the thing being pulled out of the girls head, then her waking up, with seemingly little time in between, and in this, they yanked it out, took a breather, then she came to life. I'm hoping I am remembering it wrong, but that's kinda lame.

And I don't think Suresh's character is being developed properly... either that, or his actual role has yet to be revealed.

10/17/2006 2:42:05 AM

it did happen like that at the end of the last episode, but im guessing she cant regenerate with someone around... thats why she woke when the woman walked out...

it was crazy when they showed the guy painting, like in his "zone" or whatnot

and lol at the black guy punching Hiro in the face with the end of his fist

10/17/2006 8:47:32 AM

Pretty good episode...Love the way the Cheerleader got the QB back...LOL sucker...You don't talk shit when someone else behind the wheel.

Hiro def makes the show...so what happened to the Cop? I missed the first couple minutes, did he have any role in the episode?


III

10/17/2006 9:04:33 AM

i think they are sucking his brain out or something

and which one did the cheerleaders dad and blacky black dude take when he said something like, "just take that one"

did he mean the hot chick, or the politician?

10/17/2006 9:10:26 AM

I'm guessing he meant the politician...although we know Nathan can't die or whatever because in 5 weeks he wins the election so maybe he meant psycho double personality chick

I'm kinda confused as to why the world is going to end if Hiro was supposed to come back and warn them...I mean the heroes are still around in the other time line, so something must have stopped them from saving that world that now they have to be warned about...maybe in their timeline Hiro didn't come to give a message to Peter...maybe they actually did fail and now they're trying to prevent it in another timeline...which means Hiro might end up not being a cool ninja and might not go back to warn Peter in a diff. timeline. I don't know if I'm making any sense, so I'm just gonna stop

but yeah, can't wait for the upcoming weeks

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 9:22 AM. Reason : ]

10/17/2006 9:19:30 AM

the world didnt end
NY just got nuked in the future

10/17/2006 9:51:39 AM

^^yeah, the whole time travel thing will be interesting along with the whole theme of destiny. To me, the biggest clue as the direction the show will go is when Hiro saves the girl because it says so in the comic. In that scene, he does save the girl, but it is his friend, jumping out into the street to stop the truck, that causes the truck to swerve and put her life in danger. This brings up the question of whether or not she would have needed to be saved had they not been there. Its kind of like in the matrix when the Oricle is talking to Neo about the vase he breaks. So to extend that idea, could trying to save the world actually be what causes its destruction? This could send Hiro in a frenzy back and forth through time trying to change things, but maybe make them worse. I think that movie "The Butterfly Effect" had a similar idea, but I could be wrong, never saw it. But anway, great show so far.

One question though...when Peter is talking to Suresh he mentions that in addition to flying, he drew the future after meeting Isac. What did he draw? The only thing I remember him drawing, is something in the hospital when his mom comes in, but I thought that was just him and his brother flying like they did. Was it the kid watching him on the jungle gym?

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 9:52 AM. Reason : mmmm...carrots]

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"but im guessing she cant regenerate with someone around... thats why she woke when the woman walked out..."

not true at all. she regenerated her arm in front of her friend and the camera, her hand with her mom around, her neck with the whole football team on the field, and her burns with the firefighters around. I think she is just subconciously starting to be able to control her regeneration ability to make it less obvious. When she was on the table, her eyes were clouded like Isac's were when he was painting, and Peter's were in the previews for next week. It was as if she was in some kind of trance, like Isac's, until she could recover without being found out.

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 10:00 AM. Reason : one more]

10/17/2006 9:51:58 AM

she couldn't regenerate because there was a tree in her brain...which will probably be her only weakness ala zombies...i don't think she was controlling anything

10/17/2006 10:55:57 AM

I'm thinking that they probably do stop NY from being nuked but that is only the beginning of something bigger.

10/17/2006 11:01:25 AM

The show can go either way, stop NY from being Nuked, or fail and let chaos begin to where they have to find a way to go back to stop...either way something bigger is going to happen...

Cheerleader...I am along the lines of thinking that the stick in her brain did cause her to be able to use ability...they made it a point for you to see them pull it out, her head heal, then she wakes up...

Damn this show is kool....


III

10/17/2006 11:29:58 AM

^^^Did they say that it was in her brain? I might have missed it, but the tree went through her neck, and I don't remember if it was positioned in such a way that it could puncture the brain. As for her controlling it, I said it could be a subconcious thing, a trance like state, much like Isac when he was painting. That said, the brain seems to be the key in all this based on the "death" of Isac and the guy in the family having his brain cut out, so it could be her weakness, but something would have to be perminately lodged in her brain, or her brain removed completely, for it to be effective. One thing I just thought of is the question of whether or not she can regenerate something that she's lost completely. In all the "accidents" she's been in so far, nothing has been completely sepparated from her body has it? The closest I can think of is the garbage disposal, but even then it looked like it just maimed her hand.

10/17/2006 12:01:52 PM

this show is crack

10/17/2006 12:36:26 PM

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"thought it was "leave our son alone..." that would make it more interesting, like the other self claims him too. "

I took that to mean more of her and the kids dad . . . could that be linderman?

10/17/2006 12:41:44 PM

I took it to be "our son" as in the normal chick and the alternate personality together

Peter drawing the future must have been in the first episode, that's the only one I haven't seen. I'm not sure how he drew it in the hospital however

This probably is going to turn out to be a "they are causing what they are trying to avoid" type situation

Also, I was under the impression that anyone with the S on them was somehow connected to the group that is trying to find/wipe out these heroes. That's why I still think they took the politician from the bedroom. I think the blond chick's alternate personality is in with the group, and she just doesn't know about it yet

I'm not sure why they are making the cheerleader the main focus of what they need to save, but I guess that's why i'm so interested in the show. I wish it came on every night, lol.

10/17/2006 1:03:25 PM

this is easily the best show i've ever watched on tv.

someone name one that comes close (drama-adventure shows of course, no comedy)

10/17/2006 1:09:15 PM

Lost

but I'm sure everyone will freak out that I said that since the show has slowed down considerably...it still keeps me coming back and wanting more every week

10/17/2006 1:33:51 PM

^^Lost. And I agree Drod, I still love that show.

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"When she was on the table, her eyes were clouded like Isac's were when he was painting"

I just thought it was b/c she was...you know, dead.

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 1:37 PM. Reason : k]

10/17/2006 1:37:24 PM

OMG U GUYS DID U NO HER EYES WERE LIKE TAHT OTHER GUYS?

10/17/2006 1:39:40 PM

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"I took it to be "our son" as in the normal chick and the alternate personality together "

Exactly what I thought. So someone said that all those with "S" symbol is somehow connected to side against "Heroes" interesting concept...would make psycho A. Larter totally against her good side.

How bad you think it would hurt for your son tell you that he knows you a internet hoe, and now you going to be a real hoe.

I was like WHOA


III

10/17/2006 1:45:33 PM

^^

^^^it could very well be because she was "dead," but the thing is that she wasn't. i was just throwing out an idea, doesn't mean its right or anything. i actually assumed the same thing until they showed Isac while he was painting and Peter in the preview.

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 1:48 PM. Reason : more carrots!]

10/17/2006 1:47:33 PM

I think she couldn't regenerate while that stick was stuck in her neck. It looked from where it was to have hit the brain stem. Once the stick was out of her neck her neck started to heal, and she's healed around lots of people so far. Her eyes were glassy like that because she was dead I'm pretty sure.

Isaac's eyes when he was on junk and painting were great, too bad Simone's never around to see that.

Hiro is awesome, I like his character more with each episode. I'm wondering how he and Ando are gonna get outta trouble, but I think Hiro will come to and do something.

They should have filled us in on what happened to Parkman. I hate it when a show does little or nothing with a character in an episode. So far there's been a good mix of everyone each episode. I'm sure we will find out next episode. I doubt they were sucking his brain out, I don't think that's DL Sanders' style. He has some power, Mr. Bennett told DL to erase Parkman's memories it sounded like.

I'm not sure who Mr. Bennett was referring to when he was talking to DL about taking one. Niki is DL's estranged wife, so I imagine Mr. Bennett was talking about Nathan Petrelli. Also, they were in Nathan's hotel room.

Peter Petrelli is in the hospital for most of episode two. He jumps off of the roof at the end of episode one, and Nathan can't hold onto him so he falls, but doesn't get too hurt because at the last second he flies a bit, according to Nathan. While in the hospital he makes a stick figure drawing of him and his brother on a rooftop where he's standing in the air talking to his brother who is on the ground. This comes to fruition at the end of episode two. They cut back to the picture the scene after Peter realizes he is walking on air.

Niki saying leave our son alone I thought was the second personality (or whatever) in Niki speaking about her and Niki's son. Micah is the son of DL and Niki (they all share the same last name) I'm pretty sure and not Linderman.

The S symbol appears on Chandra Suresh's book, Claire's Geometry book, and now Niki's right shoulder. (amongst other places of course) Not sure what it is anymore, but I think it goes back to Chandra Suresh and not the evil people.

For me this show started out fast for the first three episodes and kinda slowed down last night. It's still my favorite show on TV right now.

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 1:59 PM. Reason : ]

10/17/2006 1:51:49 PM

the symbol showed up in the computer code shuresh found also

10/17/2006 2:22:28 PM

This show is just so badass. The way they shoot it and the look and feel it has just has a good overall quality about it. It is almost like you are watching a movie and not a TV show.

10/17/2006 2:25:06 PM

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"this is easily the best show i've ever watched on tv. someone name one that comes close (drama-adventure shows of course, no comedy) "

Battlestar Galactica

10/17/2006 2:25:18 PM

^^^^ Pretty much everything you said there is how I interpreted it.

Also, I don't think this is like Lost, I think it's better than Lost (i've never been a big Lost fan though).

I would compare it more to BSG is style.

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 2:33 PM. Reason : ]

10/17/2006 2:33:42 PM

According to the graphic novel on nbc.com for the week, Claire apparently didn't kill Brody. (the quarterback)

Found this though as I was reading it. http://www.myspace.com/clairebennet

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 2:40 PM. Reason : ]

10/17/2006 2:38:18 PM

I am big into Lost, but Lost I do not feel is on this level. At least not from the start.


III

10/17/2006 2:50:22 PM

I put Lost, Battlestar Galactica, Jericho, and Heroes all on the same level. They each have their ups and downs, and right now I'd say I'm most pumped about BSG (rescue on Friday anyone?) and Heroes, but all 4 are fucking killer.

10/17/2006 3:20:29 PM

Please tell me this is a freakin joke

http://money.cnn.com/2006/10/17/commentary/mediabiz/index.htm?cnn=yes

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"A mangled hand, a 'Heroes' suit, and NBC Emerson Electric is suing NBC over a scene in "Heroes" featuring the company's garbage disposal. This may seem silly but something does smell funny on both sides. By Paul R. La Monica, CNNMoney.com editor at large October 17 2006: 11:45 AM EDT NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- NBC is getting sued by a garbage disposal maker that claims the network's new hit show "Heroes" casts its product in a negative light. You can't make this stuff up. Apparently, the first episode of "Heroes" shows one of the characters, a cheerleader who is blessed with the power of indestructibility (must come in handy when being at the top of those human pyramids), sticking her hand into a garbage disposal and getting it all mangled. A few seconds later her hand heals. What's the big deal? The brand name of the machine in question is visible in the scene. It's called the InSinkErator. (Sounds like a bad Schwarzenegger movie. "Hasta la vista, gah-bage. Foooood. I'll be back...to chop you.") Anyway, Emerson Electric (Charts), the company that makes the InSinkErator, isn't too happy to have its product shown bloodying the hand of a pretty, young cheerleader. So Emerson filed a suit in a U.S. district court in St. Louis against NBC Universal on October 2. In the lawsuit, Emerson claims that NBC used Emerson's trademark without the company's consent and that the show "implies an incorrect and dangerous design for a food waste disposer." The company added in its complaint that NBC's depiction of the InSinkErator "casts the disposer in an unsavory light, irreparably tarnishing the product." Emerson is asking the court to order NBC to remove Emerson trademarks from future broadcasts of the show and also reward Emerson damages suffered as a result of NBC's acts of "unfair competition, trademark infringement, and trademark dilution." Dan Callahan, spokesman for Emerson, said the company, of course, does not recommend anybody put their hands in a garbage disposal that is turned on. But he also pointed out that, according to data from the government's Consumer Products Safety Commission, you are actually ten times more likely to get injured by your dishwasher than your garbage disposal. And I've been told that if you did stick your hand in a garbage disposal (not that I've tried) you would hurt yourself but you would not wind up losing any fingers as was the case with the girl on "Heroes." So I can see why Emerson would be mad at NBC. The network is merely perpetuating this myth that garbage disposals are a menace to society! Garbage disposals don't chop off people's fingers. People chop off people's fingers. Still, I'm not sure why Emerson has to be worried about its product being cast in an "unsavory light." Anyone who willingly shoves their hand in a garbage disposal because they saw someone do it on TV is a moron. That's not Emerson's problem. Will InSinkErator sales really hit the skids? So what's NBC's response? "While we do not believe there is any legal issue with the episode as originally broadcast, we nonetheless have decided to edit the episode for future uses," said an NBC spokesperson in a statement. Presumably, that means rebroadcasts on NBC's sister cable networks like USA and Sci Fi, broadband viewings (the show is available on Apple's (Charts) iTunes), the inevitable DVD release of the first season and possible syndication. So if NBC has already edited out the offending InSinkErator trademark, then why is Emerson persisting with the lawsuit? Callahan said that Emerson has seen NBC's response about the pilot being re-edited but that the company has not heard directly from the company about its lawsuit. Now is this just another example of a company seeking publicity and using the court system to do it? Heck, I'm writing about the InSinkErator so if the suit was a PR move, it worked. And it is easy to label Emerson as yet another example of an overly litigious culture. I find it hard to believe that "Heroes" really "did in fact cause pecuniary harm to Emerson" as the lawsuit alleges. First off, even though the trademark is clearly visible on what I'm told is called the flange (I'm no Bob Vila) of the disposal it's in tiny print. So even if you own a 50-inch HD plasma TV, I doubt that you would have noticed the InSinkErator name. Plus, the flange wasn't exactly the focal point of the scene. I'd argue that the cheerleader's bloody hand wins that honor. And call me crazy, even if people did notice that the disposal was an InSinkErator, something tells me that Home Depot and Lowe's aren't going to be stuck with scores of unsold InSinkErators because consumers will be afraid about what may happen to their paws if they intentionally shove them into the disposal. In fact, I called a Home Depot in Secaucus, New Jersey Monday and spoke to a sales rep from their appliance department. I asked him if any customers have had complaints or questions about the InSinkErator since "Heroes" debuted. He seemed confused by why I was asking such a bizarre question but quickly said no. NBC should have known better But on the other hand (which I'm keeping as far away from garbage disposals as humanly possible), NBC may also be guilty of something here. At the very least, the producers and the network's legal department were reckless because they did not check all their Ps and Qs. Instead of showing a sink with the InSinkErator disposal, NBC could have easily created a fictitious brand name for the garbage disposal and avoided unnecessary legal risk. People make up fake product names on TV all the time. Or they could have edited out the name from the get-go. It wouldn't have affected the integrity of the show. Even better, NBC could have shown some love to its corporate parent with a blatant product promotion. After all, NBC Universal is owned by General Electric (Charts), which also makes garbage disposals. And isn't GE all about synergy? Then again, showing your product chop off the digits of a cute cheerleader probably isn't the type of publicity that GE's appliance division wants. So maybe Emerson is on to something after all. GE does compete with Emerson in the garbage disposal market. It would be a little different if "Heroes" aired on CBS (Charts), Walt Disney (Charts)-owned ABC or News Corp.'s (Charts) Fox since their parent companies aren't in the household appliance business. So perhaps it wasn't an innocent oversight by the producers. Hmmm. Now this sounds like something more suitable for an episode of "Law and Order." Ripped from the headlines, indeed."

10/17/2006 3:41:11 PM

^that was on entertainment tonight about 2 weeks ago

OLD and true

10/17/2006 3:45:30 PM

I can understand that

10/17/2006 3:45:38 PM

Last night was the first episode I had seen and thought it was pretty blah--was it just a slow episode?

10/17/2006 3:49:05 PM

Well its usually not a good idea to start watching a serialized show 4 episodes in.

10/17/2006 3:57:13 PM

True, but it didn't really leave me wanting more either or really caring what happened previously and I usually get sucked in pretty easily. Besides, my regular Monday shows got moved to another night so Monday became open (depending on the Monday night game) so I thought I'd give it a shot.

10/17/2006 4:04:01 PM

I'd download the previous 3 and start at the beginning. You have missed a lot in the first 3 episodes.

10/17/2006 4:20:06 PM

I think you should do what was advised and watch the first 3 episodes...at least to understand the background on the characters a little better(and become "attached") and see what's happened up until this point and what's supposed to happen


I was literaly like this when I saw Future Ninja Hiro

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 4:45 PM. Reason : ]

10/17/2006 4:44:51 PM

glad we've got another show that portrays football captains as rapists and cheerleaders as their victems

10/17/2006 6:43:39 PM

^hahaha, good point. I especially like how he's not only a rapist, but he doesn't mind leaving a dead body behind.

10/17/2006 6:54:14 PM

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"hahaha, good point. I especially like how he's not only a rapist, but he doesn't mind leaving tossing a dead body behind into a river."

10/17/2006 6:56:51 PM

creek

10/17/2006 7:00:22 PM

wasn't she found naked too?

10/17/2006 7:27:04 PM

they took them off before the autopsy

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 7:30 PM. Reason : 5]

10/17/2006 7:29:54 PM

^she was found naked...they said it on the show

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 7:43 PM. Reason : dvr]

10/17/2006 7:43:40 PM

He probably had sex with her corpse, then tossed her into the creek.

It's the deranged star quarterback.

10/17/2006 8:05:41 PM

or the clothes came off in the water or something

or th QB is a necrophilliac

10/17/2006 8:06:37 PM

Wait... so In-Sink-Erator is a model name? I have thought for several years now that "erator" was a general name for a garbage disposal... as in "erator in a sink."

10/17/2006 8:42:20 PM

you know what this show casts in a negative light? creationism.

10/17/2006 8:48:29 PM

It also casts heroin use in a positive light, as well as jumping off buildings.

I've had an itch to try both of these since watching this show

10/17/2006 9:00:05 PM