DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
wooooooooooooooooooo 12/27/2007 9:39:08 PM |
Yoshiemaster Suspended 9388 Posts user info edit post |
update 12/27/2007 9:39:14 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
we win 12/27/2007 9:39:38 PM |
Yoshiemaster Suspended 9388 Posts user info edit post |
yayzers 12/27/2007 9:39:47 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
GG GG
Good Going Gavin Grant 12/27/2007 9:39:52 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Lesson of the game: Stop dicking around at the top of the key and get the ball down low.
Force them to try to stop our front court. 12/27/2007 9:39:53 PM |
Cubbie03 All American 513 Posts user info edit post |
good job Marques down the stretch, not making any mistakes
Grant is money in the 2nd half, Hickson as well 12/27/2007 9:40:07 PM |
AC Slater All American 9276 Posts user info edit post |
79-73 state wins
rough but we win 12/27/2007 9:40:16 PM |
Nitrocloud Arranging the blocks 3072 Posts user info edit post |
79-73 Wolfpack
[Edited on December 27, 2007 at 9:40 PM. Reason : ^ yeah, what he said.] 12/27/2007 9:40:19 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
gg pack. way to stick out a tough game 12/27/2007 9:40:37 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
grant is making this his team. i like it. 12/27/2007 9:41:59 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Nicole Mansky 12/27/2007 9:42:15 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Glad we got the W and on the road, just if we don't stop it with these close games my hair's gonna turn gray, haha. Still waiting for a dominating performance one of these games before ACC play. 12/27/2007 9:42:23 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Too bad we have all these cupcakes before UNC. Lowe needs to set of a goal of beating these teams by 15-20+ points so we don't become softer before the big game.
[Edited on December 27, 2007 at 9:42 PM. Reason : .] 12/27/2007 9:42:31 PM |
velez75 All American 682 Posts user info edit post |
couldnt watch the game but it sounds like costner is still sucking it up. do we have enough scholarships to keep him when no one in the NBA wants him this year? 12/27/2007 9:43:30 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
hey, what's the score? 12/27/2007 9:44:25 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
score is pack winz! 12/27/2007 9:46:03 PM |
Nitrocloud Arranging the blocks 3072 Posts user info edit post |
^^Above, 79-73 Wolfpack
[Edited on December 27, 2007 at 9:46 PM. Reason : ^] 12/27/2007 9:46:03 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Also, it would be good for either javi or johnson to
1. Learn to take the drive when the defense is overplaying you and out of position 2. Run the pick and roll
Neither have degand's driving or 3 point shooting gumption. 12/27/2007 9:47:15 PM |
ncsucharlie Suspended 4074 Posts user info edit post |
wooo fuck those bitches give them their 3rd loss without a PG. Fuck them hard, that will teach them about the AYE motherfucking CC. 12/27/2007 9:48:42 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
it was an ugly win, and I wish our team was more dominant, but I like the fact that we arent a "one trick pony" team and on any given night we can have a different player lead our team to victory - Grant, Fells, Hickson, Costner, McCauley
and I think Marques Johnson leap-frogged Javi Gonzalez for the starting PG job tonight 12/27/2007 9:48:43 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Javi's going to have to shoot the fucking ball at some point
I know his percentage sucks ass, but he should at least try a wide open shot once in awhile 12/27/2007 9:49:19 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
well, johnson has no problem driving. he just kindof, gets blocked.
i thought it was fine though, whatever. i'm not going to wake up in a cold sweat over it. it's certainly not as bad as everyone here thinks it is. 12/27/2007 9:49:23 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Definitely not as bad as the crybabies are making out to be. Guys just need game experience and the confidence that comes with that -- there's no way around it. 12/27/2007 9:51:02 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
the espnU commentators were saying that Javi was "known as a good shooter" out of high school...if thats the case, why is he so gun shy? 12/27/2007 9:52:45 PM |
ncsucharlie Suspended 4074 Posts user info edit post |
that win was big as fuck guys.. especially in the NCAA selection committees eyes if I had to guess. And yeah I'm guessing 12/27/2007 9:52:58 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
costner fucking sucked. I didn't mind javi and marqees. I thought they played as well as you could want considering the situation.
But... FUCK GOTTLEIB... Every time he said "the hall" I wanted to beat my fucking TV in. 12/27/2007 9:52:59 PM |
ncsucharlie Suspended 4074 Posts user info edit post |
hell yeah costner was sucking it up big time i do agree with that 12/27/2007 9:54:08 PM |
AC Slater All American 9276 Posts user info edit post |
confidence or lack there of, can make anyone a terrible shooter
I have myself as a perfect example 12/27/2007 9:54:37 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Costner probably cost us about 10 points by himself. Is he really the best guy to inbounds the ball? 12/27/2007 9:54:56 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
w00t 12/27/2007 9:55:35 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
well at least we dont live and die by one player, we have enough talent now where we can survive if a player has an off night 12/27/2007 9:55:36 PM |
ncsucharlie Suspended 4074 Posts user info edit post |
one GREAT positive of that game is they beat the shit out of that press.. i think our team is about used to it now.
and with a couple of PGs that are suspect1!
[Edited on December 27, 2007 at 9:57 PM. Reason : .] 12/27/2007 9:56:15 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
Javi and Marques played relatively well considering their experience. they'll adjust. i think they will do us good if they can hustle. 12/27/2007 9:56:38 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
we did well against the press when we played Cinci also 12/27/2007 9:56:53 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Yep, the best thing javi and johnson can do to make an immediate impact is play hard on defense. The offensive game will come in time. 12/27/2007 9:58:49 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
We better hope Johnson learns how to play basketball because Gonzalez has no hope. The kid can't shoot, is slow as hell, and is a turnover machine. Johnson looked like shit but he appears to have the slightest bit of upside. Gonzalez is not an ACC caliber point guard, he's MOD all over again. 12/27/2007 10:00:07 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
^ 12/27/2007 10:01:19 PM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the espnU commentators were saying that Javi was "known as a good shooter" out of high school...if thats the case, why is he so gun shy?" |
maybe the cast fucks up his shot and he will get better once he loses it
Quote : | "But... FUCK GOTTLEIB... Every time he said "the hall" I wanted to beat my fucking TV in. " |
+1
[Edited on December 27, 2007 at 10:10 PM. Reason : ]12/27/2007 10:01:30 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
^^^You are nuts. Your ability to evaluate players is terrible.
[Edited on December 27, 2007 at 10:01 PM. Reason : .] 12/27/2007 10:01:37 PM |
ncsucharlie Suspended 4074 Posts user info edit post |
for anyone who has watched all of our games that shit was fucking HUGE! I think that win may be the game that could get us to the big tourney for sure. We beat that ass without our starting PG. Things are looking up IMO. 12/27/2007 10:04:13 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "well at least we dont live and die by one player, we have enough talent now where we can survive if a player has an off night" |
haha, I remember when that one guy was Julius Hodge.
He'd run that play where he'd rub the top of his head... then he goes right... then left... then TURNS THE BALL OVER
I hated that one.12/27/2007 10:04:55 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
but most of the time, he would drive and get a layup or foul. so they kept running it 12/27/2007 10:08:33 PM |
chickenhead
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X 12/27/2007 10:10:51 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You are nuts. Your ability to evaluate players is terrible." |
He is less than 20% on FGs and has more turnovers than assists. Number don't lie. Speed is relative but if fucking Eugene Harvey was running circles around him and scored 20 points, I shudder to think what the likes of Lawson or Singletary will do against him. Keep the blinders on though. This team still has huge problems.12/27/2007 10:13:44 PM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
seriously, why do people shit on gonzalez so bad?
i dont think he's terrible, he and johnson are both better than that grant/fells PG combo we had last season.
give them time, gonzalez has less than 15 collegiate games under his belt and johnson saw his first action of the season against a team that likes to play helter skelter basketball 12/27/2007 10:14:53 PM |
Walter All American 7764 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "HELTER
SKELTER
BASKETBALL" |
12/27/2007 10:17:39 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
m johnson had a few great layups and assists out there today
i think he deserves the starting job for now. but if gonzalez can make a few clutch shots and lose his cast i think we will survive, but right now i hope johnson becomes our standout guard.. we need somebody like that so it opens up the inside more 12/27/2007 10:26:05 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He is less than 20% on FGs and has more turnovers than assists. Number don't lie. Speed is relative but if fucking Eugene Harvey was running circles around him and scored 20 points, I shudder to think what the likes of Lawson or Singletary will do against him. Keep the blinders on though. This team still has huge problems." |
Congrats on your ability to look in the past and state the obvious. We don't have a PG with experience -- not shit that's a problem. What do you want to do -- cry about it?
Now, how about trying to look in the future. Javi's performance is normal for a true freshman who just started his first fucking game at point guard.
No NCSU point guard this year will have notable numbers because we are not running offense through them. If you are looking for big PG stats, you are an idiot. Lowe is not asking them to do the same things he asked Atsur to do for good reason. Once they show lowe something in practice or in the game, he'll call more plays for them. Instead of crying about the problem, Lowe is trying to work around it.
Degand was our best PG and did the most because he was in Lowe's system the longest. Most of the PG problems are related to lack of experience, something that will get better over time -- contrary to your chicken little crybaby blathering.
[Edited on December 27, 2007 at 10:34 PM. Reason : .]12/27/2007 10:32:08 PM |
Kev4Pack All American 25272 Posts user info edit post |
NCSU:
http://youawinner.ytmnd.com/ 12/27/2007 10:47:25 PM |