rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
surprised nobody else has mentioned the major change from the book of the death scene that was mentioned at the end of page 4 (sorry for the run-on sentence there). i was very surprised they took out that harry was under the cloak and immobilised by dumbledore which gave malfoy a chance to disarm. just seems much weaker that dumbledore made him "promise" to just chill and harry actually did it. 7/18/2009 2:32:00 AM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE 7/18/2009 4:04:54 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Have they even shown Bill a single time in the movies? They mention him a lot but we've never seen him.
Also, they made it too obvious about RAB and Snape's true intentions.
and btw:
Quote : | "Helen McCrory (originally had been cast to play Bellatrix Lestrange in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (2007), but had to back out because she was pregnant) She will play Bellatrix's sister, Narcissa Malfoy in this film." |
wasn't helena bonham carter pregnant while filming this one?7/18/2009 10:58:58 AM |
twoozles All American 20735 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they made it too obvious about RAB and Snape's true intentions. " |
yes!!! that really disappointed me7/18/2009 11:02:28 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
in the book iirc, snape doesn't step in until draco hesitates, i don't remember him calling draco off just so he could do it himself 7/18/2009 11:25:07 AM |
twoozles All American 20735 Posts user info edit post |
yeah and werent they outside the castle ? 7/18/2009 11:26:00 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
maybe this isn't the right place to ask, but explain to me why draco is still considered owner of the special wand and not snape in book 7 7/18/2009 11:28:08 AM |
twoozles All American 20735 Posts user info edit post |
i was trying to recall the details of that situation while i was watching the movie. i think i'm going re-read 6 and 7 soon 7/18/2009 11:29:59 AM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
i believe draco gains ownership when he disarms dumbledore when he first walks out there. 7/18/2009 11:41:28 AM |
PackMan92 All American 8284 Posts user info edit post |
^ 7/18/2009 1:08:11 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
in the book, draco hesitates and snape does it. also i remember it saying that they were outside on the balcony and dumbledore's body flew up in the air and over the side down to the ground where he lay motionless and lifeless 7/18/2009 2:42:27 PM |
joepeshi All American 8094 Posts user info edit post |
I thought it was ok. I fell asleep before that time Harry had to give Dumbledore drinks out of that shell. 7/18/2009 6:42:08 PM |
Samwise16 All American 12710 Posts user info edit post |
I'm just going to copy what I put in another thread:
Quote : | "Yes, it was still good but what the FUCK.... Over half the shit during the climax was changed!!!
Not to mention, none of this lovey dovey and crying and all that bullshit happened between Hermione and Ron in the book... It was mentioned and implied a few times but not to the extent said movie showed
If they had left out all the shit they felt was necessary to add in, there would have been plenty of time for the huge battle scene at the end of the book and a great climax
BUT NO
APPARENTLY THAT WAS TOO HARD WITH ONLY A $250 MILLION BUDGET.
Mel, I will tell you the real ending
For one, they came back to Hogsmeade, not directly to Hogwarts... They saw the Dark Mark above the school and made haste to the castle. A lot of people were fighting, like the professors and the death eaters.. but Dumbledore stunned Harry while he was wearing his invisibility cloak so he couldn't move or say anything and just had to watch it all go down
The only part I was truly happy with was when it showed Ron playing Quidditch and the cavern when they went to get the horcrux... The cavern part looked exactly as I pictured it while reading, down to what the basin looked like " |
I would also like to mention... where the hell are they getting the black/white smoke from for the Death Eaters and the OoTP (respectively)?? I do not remember reading any of them being able to fly except (maybe) Voldemort? One good example is at the end of the 4th one when the Death Eaters show up to where Harry and Voldemort were at... They apparated there, there wasn't anything talking about them flying in with black smoke following them..7/19/2009 3:03:50 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
they're gonna completely fuck up the last book/2 movies 7/19/2009 3:23:57 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "haven't read any of the books. i enjoyed it but didn't feel like there was much of an ending/climax... i guess i just expected more of a payoff for sitting through a 2.5 hour movie" |
that pretty much sums me up, i thoroughly enjoyed the entire movie but felt the end was anticlimactic
[Edited on July 19, 2009 at 3:59 PM. Reason : .]7/19/2009 3:59:01 PM |
RSXTypeS Suspended 12280 Posts user info edit post |
I enjoyed the movie however I felt like the director and screen writers didn't read the books. Just read the back cover and filled in the blanks 7/19/2009 4:22:31 PM |
JTHelms All American 4696 Posts user info edit post |
It was Pirates of the Caribbean 2 all over again - just a set up for the finally. 7/19/2009 7:09:17 PM |
awwwwkenan All American 1432 Posts user info edit post |
^except ppl didn't ride on a wheel for 2 hours 7/19/2009 8:03:54 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
honestly, the only things about it that bugged was the serious lack of action at the end and the weird harry/ginny stashing of the book.
but, why would you worry about fighting clashing with the end of the hallows? you left it in the 5th movie and it's just as important in this one than that one. 7/19/2009 8:34:50 PM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
jack bauer dies 7/19/2009 8:56:01 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
I really enjoyed it and thought they did a great job, especially considering that HBP was my least favorite of the books. I'd actually say it's my second favorite of the movies (behind Azkaban) and am now really happy that Yates will return to do the last 2 movies.
A lot of people will probably disagree, but I think it's pretty clear now that Gambon is a far better Dumbledore than Richard Harris. The problem with Harris's Dumbledore is that he just came off as a really nice old man who was going to die soon (because well, he was), whereas with Gambon you also got a sense of how wise and powerful Dumbledore was too. A lot like Ian McKellen's Gandalf actually.
Anyway, even though the ending left a little to be desired, great movie overall. 7/20/2009 10:51:25 AM |
Stimwalt All American 15292 Posts user info edit post |
It was ok.
Not to oversimply, but that really sums up my feelings after seeing the movie. It didn't wow me, but didn't disappoint me too much either. It was simply ok. 7/20/2009 11:12:38 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
I cannot begin to describe how this movie brushes over the significance of the events in the plot. But I will try.
Example"
sirius black gets murdered
Harry chases after bellatrix and there is this fantastic chase sequence with the shaky camera showing how enraged harry is and the importance of the death was to him.
/example
I got none of that from this movie. It was as if nothing was really that important because we have 2 more movies to do to explain it all anyway.
How the fuck do you spend that much time on Ron's worthless girlfriend, how do you not explain any of it!
fail
FAIL
Bring back the director of the order of the phoenix. fuck me 7/20/2009 10:22:02 PM |
CapnObvious All American 5057 Posts user info edit post |
So let me see if I understand you correctly . . . You are saying that the movie is disjointed and almost as hard to follow as the post you just wrote? 7/21/2009 10:25:12 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Bring back the director of the order of the phoenix." |
Uh....7/21/2009 10:32:12 AM |
stixman All American 3608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Bring back the director of the order of the phoenix. fuck me" |
Bahahahahaha... 7/21/2009 11:36:06 AM |
stixman All American 3608 Posts user info edit post |
double post apparently
[Edited on July 21, 2009 at 11:36 AM. Reason : ...] 7/21/2009 11:36:06 AM |
kdawg(c) Suspended 10008 Posts user info edit post |
saw it tonight with the wife...
good points: - Voldemort's cave was spot on - Malfoy's role in the storyline - Harry's Felix Felicis evening - Ron & Hermione's developing relationship (wasn't much in the book, but I liked it)
bad points: - uh...no dursleys??? - no detail of the shakeup after TOoTP - the battle of Hogwarts - Ginny's Quidditch tryouts - Dobby? - cut memories - Lavender Brown....WAY TOO MUCH - apparation training - the weasleys' secret "weapons" - how they handled Harry/Dumbledore/Malfoy at the end
I liked the movie a lot, and it had been such a long time since I read the book, I forgot all of the things that they dropped.
Hopefully, they will start DH1 with the funeral...
[Edited on July 24, 2009 at 6:46 AM. Reason : more] 7/24/2009 6:43:36 AM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I would also like to mention... where the hell are they getting the black/white smoke from for the Death Eaters and the OoTP (respectively)?? I do not remember reading any of them being able to fly except (maybe) Voldemort? One good example is at the end of the 4th one when the Death Eaters show up to where Harry and Voldemort were at... They apparated there, there wasn't anything talking about them flying in with black smoke following them.." |
when I saw it I was under the impression they were riding brooms and surrounded with smoke. but the movie projection was messing up a bit at the very beginning so something may have happened that I missed. 7/24/2009 7:25:11 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
hollywood at it's worst. honestly, the effect worked well in OotP. and voldemort is the only one that can fly w/o some sort of aid. 7/24/2009 9:55:49 PM |
josephlava21 All American 2613 Posts user info edit post |
I thought the movie was ok but it seemed like it strayed from the book more so than the other films. I think I want to re read the 6th and 7th because my memory is terrible so I bet I will enjoy them like it was the first time I read them. 7/26/2009 3:26:35 PM |