that fade/mouse shit is bonkers... fucking weird shit

11/7/2009 1:37:56 AM

that was one of the cooler missions I've done in an rpg


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11/7/2009 1:45:09 AM

Yea. For a puzzle-like level, it was fun - getting to to assume all those forms at will.

11/7/2009 11:30:50 AM

golem was def the best.

didn't use the spirit bullshit at all

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11/7/2009 12:27:01 PM

that witherfang quest is long as fuck.

i was pretty sure i had stumbled off the course and was halfway through some quest i hadn't even
gotten back in town

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11/7/2009 1:55:21 PM

How the hell do you get past the first boss fight in the tower?? Everytime I wipe when he's at half health...and the few times I got him to <20% I was down to the mage and he dies in one hit. I'm playing a human warrior.

11/7/2009 3:22:18 PM

Shot fire arrows with my rogue while the mage hit with spells and Alistair and my dog wailed on him. Took a few tries, but eventually I managed to stay alive long enough to take him down.

11/7/2009 3:32:54 PM

This game has upset me multiple times with this. Its a great annoyance even on Normal difficulty. Believe me you will run into this a lot. I am a Human Noble Warrior as well, and I am beginning to think the game is biased against them somehow. Anyway, set it to Easy so you can continue to have fun and not be frustrated.

11/7/2009 3:37:07 PM

i'm playing on normal, and i've been fighting this random dude in the circle tower, some knight thing that pops up when you pick up a glass vial at a statue, hes hard as shit. anyone know how to beat him?

11/7/2009 5:01:12 PM

My first try against the vial guy in the tower indicated he has a close-range AE attack. So I put my tank on her and set my DPS on ranged and had Wynne focus on healing. Loaded up the tank with frost resist. Mage dropped once, but used Wynne's res to get her back up. Took two tries.

Finished 3 quest-lines on normal so far. Main char is a tank. Usually run with Leilana, Wynne and Morrigan. Ran into a few tough battles, but never to the point of utter frustration. Just hold onto those fire/frost protection items, poisons, salves etc for those dire moments.

11/7/2009 6:55:00 PM

I'm playing on normal and managed to finally down that tower boss. I had to kite him around with whoever had aggro and had to keep switching control to the character with aggro so he can just kite him in circles.

11/7/2009 7:09:51 PM

what the fuck are you all talking about? I dont know any of these terms

11/7/2009 8:09:11 PM

what do we have in common? we all played WoW


i'm sure you can figure out what kiting is though just by the context.

I finally switched to easy i'd probably be about 6 hours back if i had not. The feeling of accomplishment was really not diminished that much and i probably won't be switching back until i play again perhaps.

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11/7/2009 8:12:19 PM

AE? Area Effect

DPS? no idea

Kiting?

aggro?

11/7/2009 8:21:20 PM

damage per second

kiting basically is having the person a mob is targeting run generally around so that ranged can attack it while the mob doesn't hit its target.

Say i was fighting kimbo, but i had a pocket full of rocks. It would be more advantageous for me to run and throw rocks than stand up close and try and throw rocks. Even better if i had 4 other people throwing rocks.

aggro just means you're in combat/being targeted. so i'd have aggro on kimbo.

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11/7/2009 8:25:57 PM

^^sorry assumed everyone was up to date on their e-terms but yeah as ^ said that covers it. It's not just WoW lingo.

11/7/2009 8:53:08 PM

thats not what i said.

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11/7/2009 9:00:18 PM

^Didn't you just explain to him what DPS/Kiting/Aggro/AE(AoE) means?

11/7/2009 9:09:16 PM

This game definitely requires you to build your characters to specific roles. You need a defender, you need a healer (mostly), and you need strikers. The game will eventually provide you will someone for each of these roles, but you should have at least one of each in the party.

11/7/2009 10:05:35 PM

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"i'm playing on normal, and i've been fighting this random dude in the circle tower, some knight thing that pops up when you pick up a glass vial at a statue, hes hard as shit. anyone know how to beat him?"

Yeah you don't have to fight that guy.

There's more of these vials around the world, after the first time I fought one, I was like "screw that I'll come back later"

11/7/2009 11:51:45 PM

I just did the one on the Witherfang quest (i'm about level 8 now) and it was hard as shit, but I beat him.

11/7/2009 11:54:54 PM

yea i figured that, i was about to quit doing it and skip it, but i finally figured out the right tactics to beat him. i just ran around and shot him with arrows while he chased me and the mages shot him up

11/7/2009 11:55:35 PM

yeah, that kiting shit sounds gay... thats more fucking with the mechanic limitations of the game than actual strategy

11/8/2009 12:12:11 AM

There are way more than 1 in the witherfang area, and I managed to kill them all I think. Pretty much ended up killing them all with 1 person left alive

11/8/2009 12:23:36 AM

^^okay say you have a warrior, hunter, rogue and two casters.

Boss his hitting warrior, warrior dies. Boss turns to a caster who will die in 2 or 3 hits, do you let the caster stand there or do you have it run around the room?

I guess after playing a ton of warcraft that doesn't seem that unreasonable but to people who generally stick to single player nonscripted games i guess it may seem different

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11/8/2009 12:27:25 AM

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"yeah, that kiting shit sounds gay... thats more fucking with the mechanic limitations of the game than actual strategy"

you can't be serious? Is this the first time you play a game like this?

11/8/2009 1:30:47 AM

I never use shit like that... thats just taking advantage of the limitations of the AI... no way something would just chase someone around the room while people fuck them up with arrows. If the guy running actually does something and is running to give him time to do that then thats different, but just knowing the AI will continue to chase this guy so therefore you just have him run around is stupid


not sure what you mean by "games like this", if you mean role playing games I was playing the original gold box games 20 years ago.

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11/8/2009 1:49:00 AM

I'm sure if you think hard enough you can think of a game where you had to kite something. There are plenty of games where if you get hit with a melee attack from someone that person automatically dies so you have to drag them around a room so that other people can kill it. Or any game that you're a hunter or any game that has snares


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11/8/2009 2:05:55 AM

When Jaybee plays Madden he "kites" by just running around with the QB every play, so I'm surprised he doesn't utilize the same tactics here

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11/8/2009 2:07:56 AM

the ladies kite me at parties

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11/8/2009 2:10:56 AM

^^ this is true

11/8/2009 2:13:38 AM

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"I never use shit like that... thats just taking advantage of the limitations of the AI... no way something would just chase someone around the room while people fuck them up with arrows. If the guy running actually does something and is running to give him time to do that then thats different, but just knowing the AI will continue to chase this guy so therefore you just have him run around is stupid "

I'll say again...are you serious? Is this the first time you play a game like this? Perhaps you just don't quite understand what 'kiting' is because it has 0 to do with taking advantage of any AI limitations. Learn about Aggro and how to use it to your advantage then come back in agreement that kiting isn't as you say 'taking advantage of the limitations of the AI'.

Not to mention some monsters are a heck of a lot slower than others but hit a lot harder...what idiot would just stand there taking blow after blow when you can out run the monster and attack with ranged?

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" I had to kite him around with whoever had aggro and had to keep switching control to the character with aggro so he can just kite him in circles."

Read that sentence again carefully too...now that you know what aggro means.

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11/8/2009 4:22:48 AM

I am doing fine without using pussy gimmicks, but go on if you like it Dungeonmaster

11/8/2009 4:50:42 AM

highlights of my game thus far (maybe spoilerish if you just started playing..):


























- Redcliffe got sacked by darkspawn, I let it happen.
- Redcliffe castle turned into a zombie fuckfest, I killed a boy.
- I really really really wanted to be able to recruit a Werewolf from the Witherfang stuff.
- Finally learned Reaver, and the rogue-chick left my group as a result.
- Shale is a goddamn beast.
- Morrigan with some healing spells is all you need. She is a CC+Healing factory, especially since she can make health pots until the cows come home.
- I'm rolling with 2 tanks (Alistair and PC) which I don't know how I would do without. They each take half the group of mobs and deal out some shield slams/pummels/etc.

11/8/2009 10:43:46 AM

I am getting pissed that I cant open ANY CHEST! When the hell do you get a rogue to join your party so you can not keep passing lootz?

Dwarf Warrior Commoner.

I just started and its right after the betrayal

11/8/2009 12:19:46 PM

^You don't have to wait too much longer. I'm doing the Circle Tower quest right now, I'm right at the end of the sloth demon dream sequence. I almost got a mage to come out of the closet too, that dialogue was pretty funny. I put Sten in my party for this, and he dies so fast that his damage output just isn't worth it.

11/8/2009 12:43:01 PM

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lol @ gimmicks

11/8/2009 1:06:35 PM

^^ yup, Sten sucks

11/8/2009 1:43:44 PM

Did u remember to put armor on him? He joins the party with naught but his skivvies

11/8/2009 2:44:59 PM

yeah, I had him loaded up, Allistair is much much more useful

11/8/2009 2:58:19 PM

Speaking of useful, welcome to the group Wynne.

11/8/2009 3:31:03 PM

yeah, shes the fucking shit

11/8/2009 3:56:41 PM

I figured out that if you just switch wynne out at the urn then you can keep her in your party

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11/8/2009 3:59:45 PM

At the zombie castle trying to hold them off. Having a hell of a time killing these fuckers.

I need to rethink my party or something!

11/8/2009 7:22:50 PM

i just had to use pause and heal every CD was up on some of the knights since it was too complex to set up a tactic for what i was trying to do with the given number of slots i had.

i also didn't have wynne yet.

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11/8/2009 10:58:05 PM

I honestly haven't had any trouble with the bosses yet (even the optional ones, like the Revenant knight in the Dalish ruin), and I haven't been running my ass around the room.

I figure that my perfect party will be Morrigan, Wynne, and Shale. I suppose I should go and actually get Shale next, eh?

11/9/2009 12:15:04 AM

who is shale?

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11/9/2009 12:24:19 AM

He's a party member you can get from one of the downloadable content campaigns. I pre-ordered, so I got that part for free.

11/9/2009 12:43:11 AM

He's free whether you pre-order or not. It's free with any new copy of the game.

11/9/2009 7:00:09 AM

My dog, SirCharlesBarkly, is the man dog.

11/9/2009 7:41:04 AM