so thats a "quasi-canon" then?

1/25/2009 11:52:59 PM

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by

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"the numbers were given a general definition between season 3 and season 4 "

1/25/2009 11:54:11 PM

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Valenzetti_Equation

once again

i don't know if the sri lanka video is canon or what...

1/26/2009 12:06:59 AM

fuck that. i don't consider anything that isn't broadcast on ABC as canon

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1/26/2009 10:13:38 AM

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/handheld/30246.html
Interview with Damon Lindelof - January 2005

Quote :

"Lindelof said that a DVD set of the first season will come out this summer, before a second season begins in the fall. As the show progresses, he added, it won't venture too far into science fiction as its mysteries unfold. "We're still trying to be ... firmly ensconced in the world of science fact," he said in an interview. "I don't think we've shown anything on the show yet ... that has no rational explanation in the real world that we all function within. We certainly hint at psychic phenomena, happenstance and ... things being in a place where they probably shouldn't be. But nothing is flat-out impossible. There are no spaceships. There isn't any time travel." "

O RLY

1/26/2009 11:39:13 PM

not Time-traveling, time-jumping
not McDonalds, McDowels

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1/26/2009 11:44:06 PM

lol

SEXUAL CHOCOLATE

1/26/2009 11:44:37 PM

plus, i wouldn't have given away information about the way the show was going to be in 4 years anyway... can't blame him for lying

1/27/2009 5:48:56 AM

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"Hurley's friend from the mental hospital (can't remember his name... the guy he went to Australia to see) was posted at a listening post in the Pacific during WWII and that's where he heard the numbers from. Don't know if it's related."

really, he was in the army in WW2? if he was 18 in 1945 that would make him 77, and the guy didn't look that old. I recall him saying that he heard the numbers in a certain place in australia and thats why hurley went there. are we sure that the guy in the hospital was stationed there in ww2?

Quote :

"judging by their shirts/guns, i'd say it was more like the 40's"

Alvar Hanso did weapons running in the 40s so this could be associated with him. They could be his men.

[Edited on January 27, 2009 at 10:16 AM. Reason : hanso]

1/27/2009 9:55:27 AM

[quote]I don't think we've shown anything on the show yet ... that has no rational explanation in the real world that we all function within. We certainly hint at psychic phenomena, happenstance and ... things being in a place where they probably shouldn't be. But nothing is flat-out impossible. There are no spaceships. There isn't any time travel

YET

Read, bitches.

There's a reason he said yet.

1/27/2009 9:56:06 AM

am i the only one that noticed the ... like 3 times in that quote? you guys will argue over anything lol

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1/27/2009 10:03:41 AM

From Lostpedia:

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"Sam Toomey served in the U.S. Navy with Leonard Simms. They were stationed together at a military listening post, monitoring long-wave radio transmissions in the South Pacific."

I was mistaken, both Lenny and Sam were in the Navy in a South Pacific listening post, but it didn't mention anything about WWII.

1/27/2009 12:10:22 PM

the time jumping stuff still confuses me (duh)

Supposedly, you can't change the past, according to Faraday... Unless you are desmond for some special reason...

However, Locke just killed a guy with a knife. How is that not changing the past? They were in the past, right?

1/28/2009 3:50:31 PM

desmond can't change the past, hes getting desmond to help them in the future,

1/28/2009 4:00:41 PM

it's just that he can tell desmond something in the past, and he'll remember it in the future (because he's unstuck)

1/28/2009 4:10:57 PM

ok, what about locke killing a guy and changing the past?

1/28/2009 4:25:42 PM

ok, what about locke killing a guy and changing the past?

1/28/2009 4:25:42 PM

ok, what about locke killing a guy and changing the past?

1/28/2009 4:25:42 PM

this is all speculation. just watch the show. they aren't going to leave anything unexplained when they're through.

1/28/2009 4:28:23 PM

it must have just been that that guy was supposed to die at that point, thus not changing the past

1/28/2009 4:44:32 PM

Maybe it was in the future

1/28/2009 5:55:59 PM

ttt for tonight

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1/28/2009 7:50:27 PM

he wasn't saying

you can't change the past

he was saying

you can't change the past

it was a warning not a limitation

i don't think i can spell it out any more clearly

1/28/2009 9:07:01 PM

motherfucker

1/28/2009 9:52:39 PM

damn....

nothing?

anyone out there?

this shit is such a mindfuck but i love it.

1/28/2009 9:53:15 PM

i mean

it should have been obvious

but damn

when he just comes out and says it?

shiiiiitttt

1/28/2009 9:54:10 PM

3 fucking posts during that hour.

fucking weak.

1/28/2009 10:02:46 PM

That scream in the preview sounded like Claire

1/28/2009 10:02:53 PM

so now we know why richard goes to visit locke as a child...b/c he told him too... hmm...but he chooses the wrong item....

was i the only one who was mad when the sky flashed white at the end?

1/28/2009 10:04:20 PM

WIDMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Edited on January 28, 2009 at 10:15 PM. Reason : !!!!]

1/28/2009 10:13:37 PM

Who's that?

1/28/2009 10:15:16 PM

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"he wasn't saying you can't change the past he was saying you can't change the past it was a warning not a limitation i don't think i can spell it out any more clearly"

i respectfully disagree.

i think anything that they do in the past, has always (and already) happened in the past, so Faraday knew that Sawyer banging on the door wouldn't do anything, because Desmond had never met Sawyer before.

1/28/2009 10:18:34 PM

who's what

1/28/2009 10:18:55 PM

these have been the three best continuous episodes of the show

i'd love someone to suggest other wise

1/28/2009 10:19:11 PM

i really expected there to be more action on this. my question is how did penny know he was lying to her. is he that obvious to her or does she know something specifically about faraday/faraday's mother. it was said that faraday's mom was in LA so maybe she is ms. hawking who ben sought out. seems strange that she would be aligned with both sides, though.

to the secret is out as to widmore, but i'm really interested in seeing how that story develops.

do we really have any proof that locke is their leader? didn't ben say at some point that he too would be replaced? ben wasn't chosen by the item test and led until locke so maybe someone else is the actual leader. locke never passed the item test.

1/28/2009 10:19:22 PM

Quote :

"i respectfully disagree. i think anything that they do in the past, has always (and already) happened in the past, so Faraday knew that Sawyer banging on the door wouldn't do anything, because Desmond had never met Sawyer before."

and then he himself banged on the door

once again "you can't change the past"

honestly, when charlotte is dead because locke killed her grandfather, we'll come back to this

1/28/2009 10:20:40 PM

i thought it was the way he was answering her

never really thought about it the other way

1/28/2009 10:21:28 PM

yeah

it seems like they're the only two people they've really had many conversations with over the last three years, plus they've been in love with each other for like a decade now

i don't think it has to be as ominous as you're making it out to be

1/28/2009 10:23:25 PM

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"so now we know why richard goes to visit locke as a child...b/c he told him too... hmm...but he chooses the wrong item...."

yeah - it sounds like at that point Richard maybe still isn't aware of the power of the island. He goes to see child John Locke and is confused/befuddled when Locke does not pick the compass, which "is his item".

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"my question is how did penny know he was lying to her."

no mystery there. they know each other, and lovers/spouses can just tell when one is lying. nothing supernatural.

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and yeah - no doubt at this point that Ms. Hawkings is Dan's mother.

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so, is the H-Bomb the source of power on the island? Do they bury it, then later use it for power?
There still must be some other physical feature of the island where power and stuff are coming fromt.

btw, i always hate the way TV and movies portray nuclear weapons as delicate, fragile pieces of art. You could bang on the, shoot them with rifles, blow them up with dynamite and it wouldn't make a bit of difference with the nuclear reaction

1/28/2009 10:29:04 PM

so i thought the blonde Others chick was kinda hot

and then i saw she was born in 1990

1/28/2009 10:31:07 PM

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"honestly, when charlotte is dead because locke killed her grandfather, we'll come back to this"

i would suspect her grandfather would be older than widmore's age in 1954. The guy locke killed didn't look that old, but i imagine if he was supposed to have a child very young and her father then had a child very young it could be possible.

1/28/2009 10:36:40 PM

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"btw, i always hate the way TV and movies portray nuclear weapons as delicate, fragile pieces of art. You could bang on the, shoot them with rifles, blow them up with dynamite and it wouldn't make a bit of difference with the nuclear reaction"

after what happened with Artz, i wouldn't fuck around with anything

1/28/2009 10:36:56 PM

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"i would suspect her grandfather would be older than widmore's age in 1954. The guy locke killed didn't look that old, but i imagine if he was supposed to have a child very young and her father then had a child very young it could be possible."

meh

again, we'll have this conversation again when charlotte is dead because locke killed her grandfather

1/28/2009 10:39:04 PM

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"honestly, when charlotte is dead because locke killed her grandfather, we'll come back to this"

thats fine, thats why i said "respectfully disagree," i'm not trying to get in some big fight with you like IRSeriousCat did last couple pages (not saying you are trying to either), just throwing out my two cents

also, i wanna know how Faraday knows the blonde other girl (or who she becomes in the future that he knows)

Quote :

"btw, i always hate the way TV and movies portray nuclear weapons as delicate, fragile pieces of art. You could bang on the, shoot them with rifles, blow them up with dynamite and it wouldn't make a bit of difference with the nuclear reaction""

that isn't exactly the case here, it is leaking some shit, thats why they have to be careful

1/28/2009 10:39:50 PM

Quote :

"also, i wanna know how Faraday knows the blonde other girl (or who she becomes in the future that he knows)"

wat

1/28/2009 10:42:42 PM

Quote :

"also, i wanna know how Faraday knows the blonde other girl (or who she becomes in the future that he knows)"

note: i won't put as much certainty on this one as i did as do with locke's knife inadvertently killing charlotte, but that girl could easily have been charlotte's grandmum, and thats why he thought she looked a lot like her

related - does anyone know how old charlotte is supposed to be?

[Edited on January 28, 2009 at 10:45 PM. Reason : i may need to rethink whether he was her father/grandfather]

1/28/2009 10:43:50 PM

I'm wondering how Naomi's death may play a role in this time fiasco stuff

1/28/2009 10:45:39 PM

Quote :

"also, i wanna know how Faraday knows the blonde other girl (or who she becomes in the future that he knows)"

Quote :

"wat"

Faraday was obviously taken with her and how much she reminded him of someone, and i want to know who, thats what i was getting at

1/28/2009 10:48:56 PM

So the blond chick's name is Ellie

Ms. Hawking's first name is Eloise

Daniel's mouse was also named Eloise

!!

[Edited on January 28, 2009 at 10:53 PM. Reason : ]

1/28/2009 10:50:22 PM

who was the mental lady on the bed again

when Daniel was visiting

1/28/2009 10:51:37 PM