i am sorry you are a loser, mcdanger.

9/3/2008 8:59:04 AM

nah not really doin p. fuckin good over here

at least i'm not going to violently shit my pants and experience an aneurysm when a COLORED wins the white house

9/3/2008 9:03:06 AM

holy cow you are right! That must be my underlying fear as a business owner! the BLACK thing.


no, im more concerned about a socialist who wants to "tax business" instead of "us"


not the fact that hes marginally black.


you really need to spend less time reading marxist books and more time getting out.


now i have to go play capitalist. You be sure to come up with a zinger of a response while im gone.


can you be sure to throw in a couple big words awkwardly just for me?


thanks

9/3/2008 9:08:30 AM

I hear that he's related to Saddam and Osama.
is there any truth to this?!

9/3/2008 9:09:43 AM

yes

9/3/2008 9:11:49 AM

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"holy cow you are right! That must be my underlying fear as a business owner! the BLACK thing. no, im more concerned about a socialist who wants to "tax business" instead of "us" not the fact that hes marginally black. you really need to spend less time reading marxist books and more time getting out. now i have to go play capitalist. You be sure to come up with a zinger of a response while im gone. can you be sure to throw in a couple big words awkwardly just for me? thanks "

you misspelled "i hate that uppity negro"

9/3/2008 9:27:55 AM

hey, imphoto

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"oh ha here we go again. the retarded ass dems saying bush hasnt done shit. its funny though how ppl refuse to look at the facts. like how our economy started going down in CLINTONS term and how Bush GAVE out money to people so they would spend it to boost our economy."

Bush has done a plenty...thats why we are tired of the GOP, moderates and republicans all together.
Here are a few things that Bush has done in his term as Commander and Chief.

* Presided over the loss of approximately three million American jobs in his first two-and-a-half years in office, the worst record since Herbert Hoover.

* Overseen an economy in which the stock market suffered its worst decline in the first two years of any administration since Hoover’s.

* Taken, in the wake of the terrorist attacks two years ago, the greatest worldwide outpouring of goodwill the United States has enjoyed at least since World War II and squandered it by insisting on pursuing a foolish go-it-almost-alone invasion of Iraq, thereby transforming almost universal support for the United States into worldwide condemnation. (One historian made this point particularly well: “After inadvertently gaining the sympathies of the world 's citizens when terrorists attacked New York and Washington, Bush has deliberately turned the country into the most hated in the world by a policy of breaking all major international agreements, declaring it our right to invade any country that we wish, proving that he’ll manipulate facts to justify anything he wishes to do, and bull-headedly charging into a [user]quagmire[/user].”)

* Misled (to use the most charitable word and interpretation) the American public about weapons of mass destruction and supposed ties to Al Qaeda in Iraq and so into a war that has plainly (and entirely predictably) made us less secure, caused a boom in the recruitment of terrorists, is killing American military personnel needlessly, and is threatening to suck up all our available military forces and be a bottomless pit for the money of American taxpayers for years to come.

* Failed to follow through in Afghanistan, where the Taliban and Al Qaeda are regrouping, once more increasing the threat to our people.

* Insulted and ridiculed other nations and international organizations and now has to go, hat in hand, to those nations and organizations begging for their assistance.

* Completely miscalculated or failed to plan for the personnel and monetary needs in Iraq after the war, so that he sought and obtained an $87 billion appropriation for Iraq, a sizable chunk of which is going, without competitive bidding to Haliburton, the company formerly headed by his vice president.

* Inherited an annual federal budget surplus of $230 billion and transformed it into a $500+ billion deficit in less than three years. This negative turnaround of three-quarters of a trillion dollars is totally without precedent in our history. The ballooning deficit for fiscal 2004 is rapidly approaching twice the dollar size of the previous record deficit, $290 billion, set in 1992, the last year of the administration of President Bush’s father and, at almost 5 percent of GDP, is closing in on the percentage record set by Ronald Reagan in 1986.

* Cut taxes three times, sharply reducing the burden on the rich, reclassified money obtained through stock ownership as more deserving than money earned through work. The idea that dividend income should not be taxed—what might accurately be termed the unearned income tax credit—can be stated succinctly: “If you had to work for your money, we’ll tax it; if you didn’t have to work for it, you can keep it all.”

* Severely curtailed the very American freedoms that our military people are supposed to be fighting to defend. (“The Patriot Act,” one of the historians noted, “is the worst since the Alien and Sedition Acts under John Adams.”)

* Called upon American armed service people, including Reserve forces, to sacrifice for ever-lengthening tours of duty in a hostile and dangerous environment while he rewards the rich at home with lower taxes and legislative giveaways and gives lucrative no-bid contracts to American corporations linked with the administration.

* Given an opportunity to begin to change the consumption-oriented values of the nation after September 11, 2001, when people were prepared to make a sacrifice for the common good, called instead of Americans to ‘sacrifice’ by going out and buying things.

* Proclaimed himself to be a conservative while maintaining that big government should be able to run roughshod over the Bill of Rights, and that the government must have all sorts of secrets from the people, but the people can be allowed no privacy from the government. (As one of the historians said, “this is not a conservative administration; it is a reckless and arrogant one, beholden to a mix of right-wing ideologues, neo-con fanatics, and social Darwinian elitists.”)

9/3/2008 9:34:42 AM

i see a lot of Republicans throwing out the term "socialist"

can any of you actually explain why you think Obama is a socialist, and what it is about his proposed policies that makes you think he's a socialist?

9/3/2008 9:50:05 AM

and dont forget that he is also a capitalism-hating marxist

9/3/2008 9:54:39 AM

Gunzz is actually right... everything bush has done has been in favor of himself and his golfing buddies.
not the country.


The sad truth is that it requires way more income to consider running for office than actually being in office pays... so why would you really want to be president?? So you can have your way, arrange the govt. so it better suits your needs and make more money of your other enterprises.

9/3/2008 10:09:14 AM

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"Cut taxes three times, sharply reducing the burden on the rich, reclassified money obtained through stock ownership as more deserving than money earned through work. The idea that dividend income should not be taxed—what might accurately be termed the unearned income tax credit—can be stated succinctly: “If you had to work for your money, we’ll tax it; if you didn’t have to work for it, you can keep it all.” "

One of the most misguided and ignorant statements Ive read on this board. Which is saying alot.

9/3/2008 10:16:37 AM

I never really liked the idea of democracy anyway.

9/3/2008 10:43:00 AM

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"One of the most misguided and ignorant statements Ive read on this board. Which is saying alot."

one of those 5th grade comebacks that i always read on this board where there is no content to back up the claim. just name calling. Which is NOT saying A LOT

alot is not a word.

9/3/2008 10:49:29 AM

Yeah i hate when people just say you're dumb and do not actually give any supporting facts... that is how garage battles are won.

9/3/2008 10:53:21 AM

some poly science major give me a name for this type of government.

2 party, but to vote you have to pass the test that people take to become U.S. citizens?

fair? I think so. I'm still not sure if knowledgeable people actually know what's good for the country though.

[Edited on September 3, 2008 at 10:54 AM. Reason : .]

9/3/2008 10:53:26 AM

i think it would be nice if you got to have more of a say in government based on your tax contributions - that's how a real business works.

One vote, one person seems unfair since certain people contribute shitloads more to the infrastructure, employment, and advancement of the country.

9/3/2008 11:19:10 AM

oh baby, how sadly misinformed you are (gunzz) but props for trying

*As I have already stated, but am glad to restate for you, our economy was already going DOWN when Clinton was still in office. And if you know anything bout politics, once it starts going it just keeps going at least for a few yrs. Its how it works. You get dealt those cards, and we'll talk. Or hey, talk to Mr Clinton but fuckin Bush over, and we'll talk then.

*Sorry that Bush made a stance and refused to let pussy terrorists run us around. He stood up for this country and for the people who died in 9/11 by going to war you may not like the war, but A) This war has had pretty much the fewest causalities than any other war we've fought in. B)In this war, we've been able to prevent many terrorist attacks (One for instance a few yrs ago, a terrorist was walking around Charlotte with blueprints to all the major buildings. This may not be a big deal to you, but I lived 30 mins away at the time and goddamn if I lose my friends or family to some terrorist, I'd rather my men who know what they got themselves into fight their asses.) C) despite popular belief (and what CNN will tell you) weapons of mass destruction were found over there, just not the numbers we were expecting. But hey, few weapons still can kill many of people.

*You say that you are worried bout Al Queda and the Tabliban regrouping, yet dont want us to go to war? Please explain to me how else we are to go about this then. Should we give them a gentle slap on the wrist and beg them not to??

*Name and cite instance of ridiculing said countries and now begging them or it didnt happen.

*Ok the debt was unpredcidented because we are in WAR. War is EXPENSIVE. Why, you may ask then, hae we never been in such debt before in wartime. Well how inflation. Twenty yrs ago $1000 was a hell of a lot more than it is today. And consequently so is $1,000,000,000 or even billions. Time changes money, go figure.

*Aw, pity the poor. They get taxed more. Hey heres an idea though. We arent commis. Did you know that? ha yeah, I promise its true. In saying so I will continue that hey, why should we tax the rich so much that they end up makin the same as the middle and lower class. You work for it, get it. Why the hell should a doctor at the end of the yr make the same as some bitch collecting welfare. Um no, I'd rather have happy doctors that I can trust than some commi doc makin shit, but that may just be me.

*Im pretty sure these American armed service people knew what they were signing up for when they enlisted. When you join any military branch, you are under the understanding that if we go to war for any reason, they more than likely will have to fight and possibly multiple times. Most of these people too are PROUD to do so.

But hey, really thank you for playing!

9/3/2008 11:20:43 AM

I'd rather just see the income tax completely done away with and everything done based off of sales tax... that way items that are not necessary for survival could be taxed higher and food etc. not taxed nearly as much. Also when a drug dealer (who doesn't pay income tax) buys a flat screen tv and a huge stereo he gets the everliving shit taxed out of him


^ darlin... we're not fighting alqueda in Iraq we're in Iraq cause Saddam tried to assassinate GWB's daddy.

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"*Ok the debt was unpredcidented because we are in WAR. War is EXPENSIVE. Why, you may ask then, hae we never been in such debt before in wartime. Well how inflation. Twenty yrs ago $1000 was a hell of a lot more than it is today. And consequently so is $1,000,000,000 or even billions. Time changes money, go figure."

then why are we cutting taxes don't be stupid now.




[Edited on September 3, 2008 at 11:27 AM. Reason : P.S. if you didn't know you're poor for republican economics to favor you you need to make 300k+ ]

9/3/2008 11:22:28 AM

Ooooh Can I play too?!?!?

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"A) This war has had pretty much the fewest causalities than any other war we've fought in."

I'm now curious as to what the casualties:length of war ratio is.

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"Why the hell should a doctor at the end of the yr make the same as some bitch collecting welfare. Um no, I'd rather have happy doctors that I can trust than some commi doc makin shit, but that may just be me."

Yea, no

9/3/2008 11:25:06 AM

Ha everyone is more than welcome to play. Its a fun game lol. And I will admit (and am prob one of the few Bush supporters who will admit this) that yeah senior is part of the reason we are over there, but really honey, if you think thats it, I really feel sorry for you. Terrorists, WOMD, etc have nothing to do with it right, cause afterall thats what CNN told you....

do you really trust a doctor to operate on you who is making the same as the local grocer? i dont. They do what they do and work hard to do it right simply for the money. When/if that money isnt there, why the hell should they care? If they get sued, fuck it, its not like they have much to lose.

9/3/2008 11:30:56 AM

imphoto, call me when you come back with some facts and something more than your opinion.

thanks,
adam

9/3/2008 11:33:04 AM

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm more worried about our economy financially speaking rather than the silly obligatory racist bullshit...

9/3/2008 11:37:46 AM

^^^ there is a difference between communism and welfare darlin.. you are aware of that right?? i mean the government doesn't own all businesses here there is still a semi free market (if industry had morals it could be completely free but its been proven time and time again that it doesn't)


True communism is retarded because if no one is rewarded for doing exceptional work no exceptional work will be done. Now with that being said favoring someone that was born into an estate just because they were born into an estate doesn't seem to make sense either.


^ agreed. i wish there was some way to force a 10-20% raise in salary and in service prices across the board because if we could do this we could make the effect of foreign oil prices minuscule every time they go up 10% we kick the economy 10% and move on like nothing happened.

[Edited on September 3, 2008 at 11:40 AM. Reason : .]

9/3/2008 11:38:51 AM

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"As I have already stated, but am glad to restate for you, our economy was already going DOWN when Clinton was still in office. And if you know anything bout politics, once it starts going it just keeps going at least for a few yrs. Its how it works. You get dealt those cards, and we'll talk. Or hey, talk to Mr Clinton but fuckin Bush over, and we'll talk then."

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"Economic boom Mr Clinton's most enduring legacy is likely to be the economic boom which began shortly before he took office in 1992. During the eight years of the presidency, the economy expanded by 50% in real terms, and by the end of his tenure the US had a gross national product of $10,000bn - one quarter of the entire world economic output The unemployment rate has dropped by half, to 4%, a 40-year-low, while the economy has created some 15 million jobs. The stock market grew even faster - by more than three times - creating thousands of millionaires among middle class stockholders, and employees of fast-growing companies like Microsoft - before the high tech index, the Nasdaq, fell back sharply this year. "

what were you saying about the economy going down?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/1110165.stm

9/3/2008 11:41:28 AM

wait? the one claiming we are going to war over daddy is asking me to give facts?
A) how bout we talk bout the attempted terrrorists attacks in Clintons term, but he refused to do anything about.

Hey maybe if he would've done something 9/11 wouldnt have happened. Here are my supporting facts: The unibomber was living beside one of the terrorists that planned 9/11 as well as another who worked on the plan as well. He was also reported buying ingredients for the bombs with them. Also, 9/11 was not the first time terrorists attempted to blow up the Twin towers, first attack go figure was in Clintons term.


Then we have the fact that Clinton had the opportunity to kill Osama and his admin was under instruction to catch him DEAD OR ALIVE, yet when they found him, he didnt want to kill him and they couldnt catch him and we all know how that ended up. Bush, unlike Clinton, refused to let these terrorists walk all over America though.

We got attacked while he was in charged and he showed them we were having none of it, because obviously doing nothing didnt stop shit. Like the war or not, at least hes trying to stop this terrorist bullshit unlike the dems.

[Edited on September 3, 2008 at 11:45 AM. Reason : try breaking your posts up a little. its hard to read in one big block ]

9/3/2008 11:44:53 AM

i hope they find a way to get bush 4 more years. we need to go to war with iran

9/3/2008 11:45:41 AM

I claimed war over daddy... gunzz asked for facts...

^^ darlin we put the taliban in power... maybe your history just doesn't go back far enough... no shit we didn't kill him WE GAVE HIM MONEY TO HELP WITH A REBELLION. Why did he attack us? BECAUSE WE STOPPED GIVING HIM MONEY.


[Edited on September 3, 2008 at 11:49 AM. Reason : .]

9/3/2008 11:46:23 AM

^he claimed war over daddy... i asked for facts...

nothing you just posted are considered "facts"

[Edited on September 3, 2008 at 11:51 AM. Reason : i]

9/3/2008 11:48:20 AM

well i'm a little bit country....


and i'm a little bit rock 'n' rollllll-eh!

[Edited on September 3, 2008 at 11:51 AM. Reason : damnit]

9/3/2008 11:49:20 AM

The war in Iraq is going so good we need to extend it. The American Empire yields to no man.

9/3/2008 11:49:32 AM

aye, damn really? going CNN on my ass thats cool i got this shit covered. but it must wait til i get out of my next class bc for now im out. but i will leave on this note:

Thursday, June 22, 2006
WASHINGTON — The United States has found 500 chemical weapons in Iraq since 2003, and more weapons of mass destruction are likely to be uncovered, two Republican lawmakers said Wednesday.

"We have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, chemical weapons," Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., said in a quickly called press conference late Wednesday afternoon.

Reading from a declassified portion of a report by the National Ground Intelligence Center, a Defense Department intelligence unit, Santorum said: "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent. Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist."

Yes no more were found afterward, but they were found. But not in the numbers we were expecting. But please give me something good to come back and debate in an hour. Ready. Set. Go!

9/3/2008 11:49:47 AM

will someone PLEASE stick their cock in this woman's mouth so she'll shut up?!

9/3/2008 11:50:08 AM

i still want to talk about the economy

9/3/2008 11:52:47 AM

and she wants to ramble on like a Republican moonbat*

so I'm sure it will be a productive discussion


*copyright hooksaw

9/3/2008 11:56:14 AM

^^ MEE TOO WE NEED THIS FIXED!!

9/3/2008 11:56:48 AM

john mcain? more like, "john cocaine!"

9/3/2008 11:58:14 AM

clinton's economy also popped

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"The US has the highest rate of inequality of any industrialised country, and that inequality increased during Mr Clinton's years in office. "

[Edited on September 3, 2008 at 12:01 PM. Reason : where is your white knight now?]

9/3/2008 12:00:04 PM

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"yet when they found him, he didnt want to kill him and they couldnt catch him and we all know how that ended up"

Did this confuse anyone else? So they found him but couldn't catch him?

9/3/2008 12:02:26 PM

Maybe the biggest problems arose when one party was able to consume the executive, legislative, and judicial branches, which essentially annihilated our founding fathers' tediously created system of checks and balances. Monopolies are dangerous in economics, but far more devastating when they infiltrate the political machine.

When one ideology or group of people is allowed to rule a society, it becomes a dictatorship, even in the best of countries.

9/3/2008 12:15:17 PM

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"UberComedian"

^WAS NOT FUNNY

9/3/2008 12:16:29 PM

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"Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess (liberal gifts) from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, and is always followed by a dictatorship."

This is one of the many reasons why I'm not voting for Obama.

9/3/2008 12:18:21 PM

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"Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government."

agreed...glad to know you agree with marx and engels in that

when are you going to officially endorse communism, though?

9/3/2008 12:20:39 PM

McDanger plays the race card more than Jackson and Sharpton

9/3/2008 12:21:54 PM

it'll never turn to communism or socialism

we're gonna get a corporate monarchy up in this piece

9/3/2008 12:21:59 PM

The United States of Microsoft

9/3/2008 12:22:58 PM

^^ i hope you're wrong...socialism is, by far, the best (read: fairest, with the least chance of civil unrest) socioeconomic choice in a world where some people believe they are better than others (which is why communism is completely impossible)

[Edited on September 3, 2008 at 12:24 PM. Reason : .]

9/3/2008 12:23:34 PM

Dude, I'm a laissez-faire capitalist, which is very different from both communism and democracy.

9/3/2008 12:24:18 PM

I'm better than you.

I like your statement though.

9/3/2008 12:24:20 PM

it won't be oppressive or anything, it's just gonna feed us our habits

9/3/2008 12:24:35 PM

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"socialism is, by far, the best"

gtfo

[Edited on September 3, 2008 at 12:25 PM. Reason : i dont care if its out of context]

9/3/2008 12:24:47 PM