kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
should've been called Terminator: Turn Your Brain Off and Just Watch Shit Blow Up 6/3/2009 10:12:30 AM |
scm011 All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cracked.com/article_17454_terminator-salvation-if-they-left-out-bullshit.htmlv 6/5/2009 11:38:17 PM |
EdFurlong All American 677 Posts user info edit post |
d'oh! 6/6/2009 12:52:10 AM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
LOL, NOTHING IN THE MOVIE ISN'T BULLSHIT, GET IT? 6/6/2009 4:50:59 AM |
not dnl Suspended 13193 Posts user info edit post |
12 minutes in and dont really have any idea whats going on 6/7/2009 9:46:50 PM |
Axelay All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
Just saw this yesterday, and I have to agree on every single point CharlieEFH made earlier.
Quote : | "The machines weren't really that smart...
If they were, they would have killed Kyle reese on the spot instead of taking him hostage.
They would have known marcus was one of them since the beginning sand not shot at him.
Upon syncing with marcus they would have programmed him to kill john Connor.
Upon not doing the above, they would have terminated marcus so he couldn't help Connor.
How did they know that Kyle reese was john connor's father in the first place? " |
Seriously, how DO the machines know who Kyle Reese is? How could they possibly know that? I can't come up with any sort of explanation which even stretches into time paradox land.6/10/2009 5:38:50 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
this movie sucked and i saw it in the theater. wanted my 2 hours back. 6/11/2009 12:58:53 AM |
not dnl Suspended 13193 Posts user info edit post |
so my friend back home says its the second best after the first one
i told him 2 is the pinnacle of the series and that no one else i've talked to really liked it 6/11/2009 1:01:47 AM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
the real terminator fans who get it the way i do say Terminator 3 was the best i've only seen 1/2 of this one so i cant comment on it yet 6/14/2009 12:15:21 PM |
Axelay All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
Well, I don't think T3 is the best, but I certainly do think it's significantly better than this one. Given that the whole story is based upon a time paradox, Salvation is so full of holes that it honestly makes me feel like I could turn on the whole franchise. T1 and T2 were exceptional, and T3, while still having a few problems, was good to me. I just can't yet find any explanation in Salvation as to how the machines have any idea about the significance of Kyle Reese and that one point is a big no-no in the storyline. 6/14/2009 6:17:59 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
what if they sent a machine back who observed that kyle reese was john conner's father, that robut then told the future machines of who to take out 6/14/2009 6:51:59 PM |
Axelay All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
I dunno... that seems like a pretty big stretch to me. Sarah and Kyle had a one-time fling while on the run from the first T-800. It'd also contradict the first movie where Kyle explains that no one knew who John Conner's father was. I think there was also a scene where you see the Terminator searching through it's data on Sarah Conner and it indicates that the father was unknown. I'll have to go watch it again to be sure.
Apparently, this is McG's answer to this question:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/05/27/mcg-talks-terminator-sequel-commons-music-timeline-and-more-fan-questions/
... this is a really stupid answer. 6/14/2009 8:24:56 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It’s a function of their recon during the dark period, and a function of their awareness of the events that had happened since Kyle Reese traveled back. By virtue of John Connor being alive, that means Kyle Reese did meet Sarah Connor and impregnate her. That data exists, and was brought into the fold at Skynet." |
Unless Sarah Connor was a slutty waitress, but of course we all know that there is no such thing.6/14/2009 9:14:13 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
i just recently saw this at the theater and was unimpressed as well. should have opted to see something else that night 6/17/2009 11:43:45 AM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I just can't yet find any explanation in Salvation as to how the machines have any idea about the significance of Kyle Reese and that one point is a big no-no in the storyline." |
I mean, it's all a big crazy self-dependent, self-contradictory mindfuck that shouldn't be questioned, lol.
With no Terminator sent back to kill the mother of the child that will only exist because of a guy(seeNextParagraph) sent back from a war that shouldn't exist anyway, there is also no skynet(everything is based off the first terminator's chip thing...) and no war.
With no war there is no Kyle Reese going back in time to fuck Sarah Connor, so with no war there is no John Connor. With no John Connor there is no John Connor to send Kyle Reese back to make him.
there's more, and i'm probably messing stuff up and ignoring important stuff, but my head might explode if I continue or look at this any longer.
Anyway, I think this movie should have been about a race to send back Kyle and the various terminators.
[Edited on June 17, 2009 at 12:10 PM. Reason : .]6/17/2009 12:09:42 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Building on the foundation of "resistance wouldn't exist at all with just one guy taken out of the equation"...
I'd rather see the terminator go back to colonial times to take out the 12th generation ancestor of whoever it is. The terminator would then be subsequently taken out by a bunch of Ewoks. 6/17/2009 1:04:15 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
haha, I've thought of shit like that as well.
NOW WE'RE BACK IN COWBOY TIMES
GOIN AFTER ORVILLE CONNOR. 6/17/2009 2:09:25 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Are there any new trailers out there? 6/17/2009 5:58:07 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
IT BEGINS:
Quote : | "Police arrest naked 'Terminator'
A man found naked at a casino claimed he was a Terminator sent from the future. 19-year-old Sean Stanley Smith was arrested on the Nevada border after he was spotted by a motorist wandering around the highway nude. He was ordered by police to stop but proceeded into a nearby casino - where he was then tasered in front of a group of children.
Smith claims he was a Terminator sent back in time from the future - a reference to the film character made popular by Arnold Schwarznegger in the sci-fi franchise. The films usually start with a naked man being transported to the past.
However, it turned out that Smith was not a time-travelling Terminator but was in fact suffering from the effects of LSD and marijuana. He was charged with indecent exposure and resisting a police officer." |
http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/13072009/5/naked-man-casino-terminator-0.html7/16/2009 8:11:34 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE. 7/16/2009 10:23:43 PM |
Zel Sa Da Tay 2094 Posts user info edit post |
AH-MAZING hahahaaha 7/17/2009 8:37:57 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Rewatched it on cable last night with the gf because she's had a hard on for Sam Worthington since Avatar.
I actually got back into it until we got to the giant robot with a gun for a head. What happened to the land HKs that they had in the first two?
In the first chase scene POV shot they showed that the mototerminators had pretty kick ass navigation and sensory equipment. Why the fuck would they not be able to see a cable across the road? That seems like a pretty major design flaw, so major in fact, that the entire resistance strategy would quickly turn into attrition via cables across the road.
Also, the "haha, you lead them right to us!" plot twist at the end was played out when Return of the Jedi came out.
Quote : | "Marcus's only purpose is to save John Connor by swapping hearts" |
I think it would have been better if Marcus had immediately punched Common through the ribcage and ripped out his heart and then given that one to John. The dude is a human terminator, he's way more valuable to a paramilitary group than the token black guy.6/1/2010 7:16:31 PM |