^valid point.... sids substitution patterns are weird at best

1/13/2009 10:32:02 PM

for pg 6

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"you are dumb if u think that mccauley, costner, and fells should get significant minutes at this juncture"

1/13/2009 10:33:21 PM

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"Fells is a big reason why we havent fucking scored in forever Has he even hit the fucking backboard? christ "

I'm pretty sure Fells was hurt like 5 minutes into the 2nd half. He came up limping from one play (I think he got fouled hard or something) and looked like he was really in pain. He just wasn't on his game as well after that.

Also, I think Costner got himself benched for most of the 2nd b/c he really was being a lazy ass (although I have to agree with ppl who were saying a lazy Costner is better than Horner, but maybe sid was trying to send a message to the team).

McCauley...well he just looked scared of that Nigerian dude; thats all I really have to say about that.

1/13/2009 10:34:51 PM

^^ thanks for posting it for me.... and also for providing such an educated response

1/13/2009 10:39:08 PM

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""The Wolfpack lost their third straight and dropped into a three-way tie for last place in the ACC with Georgia Tech and North Carolina.""

Haha, "One of these is not like the other!"

1/13/2009 10:41:38 PM

If playing them 37 mins a game is the only way to get them to play hard, I support that.

1/13/2009 10:41:59 PM

yea i know, GT isnt in nc!!!

1/13/2009 10:42:18 PM

Fells hasnt been playing good at all this year. None of his usual fast break dunks, and he hasnt been shooting (read as shooting, not even missing) any 3s at all. Ya I know hes been out with injuries but whatever.

1/13/2009 10:43:57 PM

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"I'm pretty sure Fells was hurt like 5 minutes into the 2nd half. He came up limping from one play (I think he got fouled hard or something) and looked like he was really in pain. He just wasn't on his game as well after that. "

Ahh definately missed that if its true. I was watching on that justin.tv shit, so all i could really do is listen to teh game cause the vid was shitty.

Would definately explain why he looked so bad.

1/13/2009 10:44:36 PM

yea i was never a huge fells guy, plays a little too out of control at times

but it does seem like he is hurt or something

1/13/2009 10:45:10 PM

1) I never said McCauley was not hustling. I said he had TO's and didn't take but one shot down the stretch, and a bad shot at that. If Smith and Thomas were able to get open looks and score inside, then so should Ben.

2) No one has earned a starting role on this team. Sidney can and should continue to bench struggling veterans with surging underclassmen. Besides, if you don't play Mays, Williams, and Thomas now, you'll lose a chance to get them valuable experience that will pay dividends down the road.

I don't want to hear this crap about "starting our veterans at all costs b/c they'll be ready come ACC tourney time." Bullshit. When you vets committ TO's, take bad shots, and generally underperform, you BENCH them. Besides, what happens when one of them gets injured (ala Atsur)? Now is the time for players to prove themselves.

Lowe's message is clear: if you want to start, EARN IT.

1/13/2009 10:45:42 PM

but if you just want to play, come on down, taking all comers!!

1/13/2009 10:48:24 PM

Fells has never lived up to the hype, and Costner and Macauley can eat a bag of dicks.

Gotta love it when your so called veterans shit the floor at end the game when the players with heart put them in a position to step up, be men, and win.

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 10:52 PM. Reason : ]

1/13/2009 10:51:45 PM

again

i cant believe people are saying mccauley doesnt have heart

i guess tonight is the first game they watched

and fuck costner? without him marquette, davidson and UF would prob have blown us out and we might have lost to ECU...again

yea he may be kind of a POS w/ hardcore attitude problems, but he is the best player on our team and we need him

1/13/2009 10:54:47 PM

Attendance: 17173

If we pull that for this shitty of a team every game, I'll be pretty happy.

1/13/2009 10:57:48 PM

^^which is why its so frustrating when he takes himself out of the game


I want him to ball like he can, but I have only seen glimpses of that

Fells is/has always been a mystery

1/13/2009 11:01:06 PM

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"which is why its so frustrating when he takes himself out of the game I want him to ball like he can, but I have only seen glimpses of that Fells is/has always been a mystery"

finally we agree!



or should it be

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 11:04 PM. Reason : eh i looked back and i guess we werent that far apart, i cant keep up with the nuts and the rational]

1/13/2009 11:02:36 PM

word

definately

1/13/2009 11:09:18 PM

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"FSU 65 State 60......tied with 5 minutes to go and we blow it like usual."

Dammit I knew I was going to be right.

McCauley hustles more than anyone on the team how could you say otherwise?

Mays is turning into a ACC-caliber PG. That's not an excuse anymore.

Horner playing more than Costner and Tracy is ridiculous.

1/13/2009 11:47:44 PM

If by 'is a mystery'

you mean

'isn't very good'

1/13/2009 11:50:27 PM

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"going out to the bar with some friends that went to FSU - hopefully we don't suck it up - we had them over for the football game and what a disappointment"

well it was at least close most of the time....

1/13/2009 11:53:35 PM

New recruits shot 13-18, and only turned the ball over 5 times.
The players Sid inherited shot 10-35 and had the other 11 turnovers.

1/14/2009 12:08:20 AM

^that is nuts

oh and Im sure javi had like 4 of those TOs too

[Edited on January 14, 2009 at 12:10 AM. Reason : javi]

1/14/2009 12:09:34 AM

78-65

lol that was the score of my first speeding ticket

1/14/2009 12:10:54 AM

^^ lol, true

[Edited on January 14, 2009 at 12:13 AM. Reason : dang]

1/14/2009 12:13:02 AM

^^^^haha, i just posted those numbers in the credibility thread

good write up by our friends at the wolfpackhoops blog
http://wolfpackhoops.blogspot.com/2009/01/wolfpack-collapse-lose-to-fsu-78-64.html

1/14/2009 12:18:31 AM

to be fair javi had 2 TOs in 3 min and was mistakenly included in the numbers with herb's players

mays went 5-8 and had 3 TOs in 26 min
thomas went 2-2 and 1 TO in 18 min
williams went 3-5 and 1 TO in 17 min
smith went 3-3 and 0 TO in 16 min

sounds like smith had some issues with his knee flaring up so that's why we didnt get to see more of him

1/14/2009 1:01:47 AM

Quote :
"-Sid's recruits shot an outstanding 13-18, and only turned the ball over 5 times.

-The players Sid inherited shot 10-35 and had the other 11 turnovers. "


interesting

http://wolfpackhoops.blogspot.com/2009/01/wolfpack-collapse-lose-to-fsu-78-64.html

1/14/2009 1:09:22 AM

gg, same link 2 posts later

1/14/2009 1:11:01 AM

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"FSU 65 State 60......tied with 5 minutes to go and we blow it like usual."

This was almost exactly right -- only we blew a 4 point lead with 6 mins left

1/14/2009 1:56:13 AM

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"^ you are dumb if u think that mccauley, costner, and fells should get significant minutes at this juncture.... itd be different if they were producing any... but they are not"

Wow, talk about what have you done for me lately. In almost every game this year, we built up the lead with them all in the game and immediately when 2 of the 3 were pulled we gave it back.

This is really the first game that all three were nonexistent... You guys are going to be in for quite a shock when these three players are out of the program next year. Not for nothing, but all four of these players were higher rated and more talented players than our three freshman (including JT) who happened to have a good game tonight.

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"and fuck costner? without him marquette, davidson and UF would prob have blown us out and we might have lost to ECU...again"

Agreed, all of our OOC losses he was $$$$. Ben and Brandon have been, far and away, our best players this year. Fells, while annoying to me, has had tons of nicks and injuries, so it's tough to get on him IMO. Even the thought of benching them is absurd to me. We are an 0-16 team in the ACC without our three 4th years guys getting SIGNIFICANT minutes. Without Costner tonight we're down 20+ in the first half...

*** It's so trendy to blame only the players that Sidney Lowe inherited on this disaster of a program, but it's also really unfair when you look at the numbers...

[Edited on January 14, 2009 at 2:07 AM. Reason : x]

1/14/2009 2:02:04 AM

Fells obviously tweaked his ankle on that attempted fast break lay in he skyed for and got the blocking foul. He came up hobbling, subbed out of the game the next possession, and went back to the locker room. That may or may not have been the reason for his jump shots being all over the place after that.

1/14/2009 9:09:58 AM

^^ It's not a trend. It's just one guy who decided to take that idiotic position after this game.

1/14/2009 9:30:44 AM

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"Mays is turning into a ACC-caliber PG. That's not an excuse anymore."

Lol, seriously? He has only had one solid game against one of the lower teir teams in the ACC. Javi had a similar performance against Duke last year. I hope he continues to improve (oh yeah, look at that, Lowe's recruits are showing improvement), but acting like he has solved our PG problems at this point is just silly.

1/14/2009 9:40:07 AM

Mays has shown the ability to attack the lane and score when opponents overplay the passing lanes, something our other PGs haven't shown on any consistent basis. He hasn't really shown the ability to create for others, something he will need to learn to do to lead this team when facing competition that scouts his tendencies and plays him straight up. I like the talent and aggressiveness he brought to the table.

1/14/2009 9:47:54 AM

the trumpets knocked over our coaches. it was not our night

1/14/2009 10:07:55 AM

I agree he hasn't solved our PG issues. But he is showing promise. Tonight was probably the worst game I have seen him play this season, and it was still pretty good. (I am basing this on decision making).

imho, Fells pretending to be the ghost of JJ Red is what killed us.

At first i was but then i was

1/14/2009 10:29:22 AM

As bad as Fells' shots were, it is hard to put the bulk of the blame on him. Prior to him lofting those prayers up, the rest of the team seemed unwilling or unable to create or take shots.

1/14/2009 10:50:44 AM

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"At the same time, you and others who post similar comments shouldn't post on b-ball threads for the remainder of the season. If you do, your integrity is, justifiably... creditable."

good thing I dont care what your uppity ass thinks

1/14/2009 11:01:23 AM

^so are you saying you're not going to watch the games, but continue to post negativity in the game theads? why?

1/14/2009 1:06:12 PM

I was being facetious about not watching the games anymore, I probably say that about every game that we lose, but like a bad addiction I keep getting pulled back to the next game

I just hate how predictable our meltdowns have become

1/14/2009 1:12:12 PM

Quote :

"I just hate how predictable our meltdowns have become"

1/14/2009 2:10:46 PM

oops

Quote :

"Former N.C. State basketball player faces felony charge Gavin Grant Posted: 7 minutes ago Updated: 5 minutes ago Raleigh, N.C. — A former N.C. State basketball player has been charged with a felony count of obtaining property by false pretenses. The charge Gavin Grant, 23, faces stems from credit card fraud at Saks, authorities said. Another person, Paige Shamone, 25, has also been charged with three counts of obtaining property by false pretenses. Grant, who played as a forward/guard for N.C. State from 2004 to 2007, now plays for the Utah Flash in the NBA Development League."

1/14/2009 3:11:57 PM

whoopsie

1/14/2009 3:28:45 PM

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1/14/2009 4:05:36 PM