TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
Lebron will demand the tape so that nobody else can ever see it 2/20/2011 10:38:46 PM
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ajgoff1286 All American 2585 Posts user info edit post |
It's official, Carmelo finally got traded to the Knicks 2/21/2011 10:24:01 PM
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The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
I saw The Bron James take off walking from the 3pt line twice towards the end of lastnights game. All the announcers did was rave about how he looked like Charles Barkeley so I rewinded each one to count steps and he took 5 on the first and 4 on the second.
I knew it was no way possible for him to pick up his dribble at the 3pt line, step around 2 defenders and make it all the way to the basket without traveling. 2/21/2011 11:33:34 PM
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jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
So does this put Lawson and Felton on the same team?? That's kinda interesting. Maybe they should pick up Cota.
I hope this gets more minutes for Lawson. He's been on my "waiting to cut" list on my Fantasy Team for weeks. He produces when he gets minutes, just doesn't always get them with Billups ahead of him. 2/22/2011 7:33:53 AM
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rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
The Nuggets have to be shopping one of the two out of Felton and Lawson. They are the same player. Lawson does produce when he gets a chance so maybe the Nuggets will move him to a team that needs a PG. 2/22/2011 10:16:01 AM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
The Nuggets are now officially Nene Hilario's team, he is now undoubtedly the best player on the team
I see him leading Denver to a Western Conference Championship at minimum. Honestly I'd be shocked if he didn't singlehandedly lead them to a 4-0 sweep of the Celtics in the finals. He's just that good. 2/22/2011 3:45:19 PM
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Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "For Christs sakes, lock this thread or the other one already. Its obvious people can't keep relevant discussion to one thread or the other." |
2/22/2011 3:46:03 PM
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amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
let's talk about the 65th season of the nba 2/22/2011 4:27:57 PM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Terrible trade for New York. Carmelo isnt a great player but he's going to be paid like he is one. In the meantime they just gave up all of their assets and cap space to get him.
WHOOPS.
Good luck trying to convince CPIII, D.Howard, or Deron to come play in NY without offering the maximum. Have fun coming in 5th or 6th in the Eastern Conference every year.
Good trade for Denver, they were going to lose Carmelo anyway and they got some young talent and draft picks for him.
Melo is one of the most overrated players in the league. People pretend he's a superstar but in reality he isn't one of the top 25 players in the league and will likely flame out again in New York.
I can't think of a better city for an overhyped never was to go to... call me if they ever make the 2nd round without a 3rd "superstar" joining (boy does that term get thrown around loosely these days) 2/22/2011 10:11:49 PM
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Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Carmelo isnt a great player but he's going to be paid like he is one." |
I'm not really a Carmelo fan, but you are wrong. Carmelo is arguably the best pure scorer in the league right now. He's a great player, no question. Whether he can elevate everyone else's greatness like MJ, Kobe and others have done to win championships is the bigger question.
But again, you are wrong. 2/22/2011 10:16:20 PM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Nope.
He's a guy who shoots a lot you are right about that.
Not a guy who is really all that good though.
What's everyone's excuse going to be when he cant win in New York either? 2/22/2011 11:57:09 PM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
how far is Nene gonna lead Denver?
the sky is the limit with his talent 2/23/2011 12:19:32 AM
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StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Lawson does produce when he gets a chance so maybe the Nuggets will move him to a team that needs a PG." |
no chance. i've seen it several places that lawson is off-limits to trades. i love felton, one of my favorite heels ever, but lawson is a step above him
[Edited on February 23, 2011 at 12:34 AM. Reason : .] 2/23/2011 12:33:51 AM
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jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
did a trade actually happen? it was so out of control and getting so bad publicity and franchise wise, the knicks should just wait till the off season, trading felton is absolutely idiotic
oh god I just realize isiah thomas prob masterminded this; no matter the press is saying this is more of a publicity move then actually building a franchise right now, why isiah was invited back to seize power in this franchise is beyond me, something really seems to be special between him and the owner, I really wonder if it's sexual (isiah is secretly gay isn't he?), regardless they shouldn't have traded 3 starters away when they probably still would have gotten melo in free agency
[Edited on February 23, 2011 at 2:46 AM. Reason : k] 2/23/2011 2:39:26 AM
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Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Nuggets are now officially Nene Hilario's team, he is now undoubtedly the best player on the team
I see him leading Denver to a Western Conference Championship at minimum. Honestly I'd be shocked if he didn't singlehandedly lead them to a 4-0 sweep of the Celtics in the finals. He's just that good.
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You must've seen that commercial that touted "Pierce & the Celtics vs. Nene & the Nuggets" 2/25/2011 3:36:48 AM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
congrats to Nene for getting his 1st double double in 3 weeks last night
what a star 2/25/2011 7:27:19 PM
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d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
he'll carry the nuggets as far as they are willing to go! up up and away!! 2/25/2011 7:28:01 PM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
yeah melo is really killing it in new york, awesome game ![](images/rolleyes.gif) 2/25/2011 7:30:44 PM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
yeah 27 and 10 is HORRIBLE
i guess the fact that he shot 40% for the game means you ignore that he scored 27 points, grabbed 10 boards, got a couple steals, and helped the Knicks win the game
all while trying to establish chemistry with a brand new team] 2/25/2011 7:56:37 PM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
do you think the knicks have found out how overrated carmelo is yet or are they still in that delusional denial state?
lost to the knicks and he's shooting 19/47 thru two games.
Keep shooting Melo! Maybe the problem is he's not shooting enough... if he took 40 shots a game he'd make more.
Its kinda like the delusional liberals who think we didnt stimulate the economy enough 2/26/2011 1:46:10 AM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
^ obviously i meant to say they lost to the fucking cavaliers last night 2/26/2011 11:13:27 AM
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NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62373 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i was a little busy this week, but for Thursday night:
Quote : | "72-10 is a difficult yet real possibility for the Miami Heat." |
42-16
30 - (-6) run upcoming??
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PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
In case you haven't been following the Wizards (like everyone), it's likely they might pull something like the Caps and go from perennial has-beens to a playoff team in the next couple years, if Wall has someone other than Josh Howard to work with. Ted Leonsis is willing to take criticism and take drastic steps.
However, they're coming from further down and I expect they'll be a 7 or 8 seed, maybe in 2 years.
They need draft picks. 2/27/2011 5:21:45 PM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
1. Knicks trade for Carmelo 2. Knicks win @ Miami against rally's darlings
so sour 2/27/2011 10:43:33 PM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
darlings? i dont really like them they are actually pretty boring to watch. I like watching the Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, and Warriors. I rarely watch anyone else during the regular season. 2/27/2011 11:31:29 PM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
darlings, as in, 72-10 is a real possibility
can't believe the stout Miami defense let a scrub like Carmelo put in 29 meaningless points
and props to Lebron James, the best player ever, even better than MJ, etc, and especially better than Kobe...props to him for getting completely owned on his final basket attempt, by both Melo and Amare, neither of whom are superstars
but all who have the same non-existant amount of titles, although Melo and Amare never quit on their respective teams in the playoffs, unlike Lebron 2/27/2011 11:48:39 PM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
you are a weird guy 2/28/2011 12:30:24 AM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
maybe
or maybe i just watch the NBA and base my decisions of players on watching the games, instead of over-analyzing efficiency stats?
who knows 2/28/2011 12:47:01 AM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
I guess I just dont get the point of making up fake arguments and then arguing against them.
Carmelo is a scorer not a scrub, I've certainly never argued that. He's not an elite basketball player though obviously. Now if a true elite player like Dwight Howard or Chris Paul joins the NY Knicks then we can talk about them being contenders. Although, Chauncey is still pretty good and they aren't contenders right now so obviously Dwight would improve them more than CPIII would.
Quote : | "Oh yeah also, 72 wins was in play before Mike Miller got hurt. Now they look like a 62-65 win team, can't see them even getting to 70 without Miller for 25 games." |
So I was predicting 62-65 wins and thats before the Haslem injury which obviously made them significantly weaker. Not to mention Miller struggled well after his initial return. They're probably going to end up right around 60 wins, so I was pretty accurate there.
Lebron is significantly better than Kobe is right now, its not even close. Lebron at his peak is also significantly better than Kobe ever was at his peak. Those are inarguable so no need to really elaborate. 2/28/2011 1:00:11 AM
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tommy wiseau All American 2624 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Carmelo is a scorer not a scrub, I've certainly never argued that. He's not an elite basketball player though obviously." |
obvious trolling exposed 2/28/2011 1:18:28 AM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
I meant elite compared to NBA basketball players. Obviously, compared to the human population he would be considered elite.
In the NBA he's certainly a good player. Just nowhere close to a dominant player like Lebron, Howard, CPIII, etc.
He's worth about 2 wins more than Gallinari and Billups is worth about 2 more wins than Felton and Turiaf is worth about 2 more wins than that awful Russian so yeah they got better. But they were a borderline .500 team that is now about equivalent to a 50 win team.
In other words, they're on par with the Hawks. Great. 2/28/2011 1:29:23 AM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
yet some how tonight he was instrumental in beating one of the top teams in the league
i guess you just wont be able to appreciate how good of a player he is until he is more about FG% than winning bball games, oh well Dangle 2/28/2011 2:49:53 AM
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PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
billups was the steal 2/28/2011 8:08:51 AM
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NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62373 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "72-10 is a difficult yet real possibility for the Miami Heat." |
43-17
29 - (-7) run upcoming??
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spooner All American 1860 Posts user info edit post |
nice comeback by the Hawks tonight against the Bulls, without Josh Smith. Al Horford made Boozer his bitch. one question - "WHOOOO LET THE HAWKS OUT?? CAW! CAW, CAW!!!!"
i'm sure they'll still end up with a 2nd round exit, like the past two years, but they def look better defensively with Hinrich vs. Bibby. 3/2/2011 9:54:44 PM
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NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62373 Posts user info edit post |
I'm gonna get flood control trying to keep up with the heat
Quote : | "72-10 is a difficult yet real possibility for the Miami Heat." |
43-18
29 - (-8) run upcoming??
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Quote : | "72-10 is a difficult yet real possibility for the Miami Heat." |
43-19
29 - (-9) run upcoming??
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NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62373 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "72-10 is a difficult yet real possibility for the Miami Heat." |
43-20
29 - (-10) run upcoming??
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by the way, you said the heat were a 62-65 win team, hows that going so far? 3/7/2011 7:16:34 PM
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NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62373 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "72-10 is a difficult yet real possibility for the Miami Heat." |
43-21
29 - (-11) run upcoming??
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i totally missed the portland game 3/13/2011 6:55:48 PM
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NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62373 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "72-10 is a difficult yet real possibility for the Miami Heat." |
46-22
26 - (-12) run upcoming??
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Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
The funny of ^ has passed....
long, long ago. 3/17/2011 9:13:39 AM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
No surprise here, the knicks aren't any better with carmelo and the nuggets are actually better off without him.
The most overrated player in the NBA by far.
He's not even on a "star" level yet he's considered a superstar.
Basketball is a sport where the average fan just has no clue what's going on 3/18/2011 1:25:20 PM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Wait, where are the Carmelo fans. I thought Nene sucked, how come he's dominating now that Melo is gone? Why are the Nuggets better and the Knicks not? I need someone to explain this for me. Oh here's the reason...
Quote : | "Carmelo Anthony is Not Entirely Happy in New York? Posted on March 20, 2011 by dberri| 34 Comments Well, that didn’t take long.
According to Marc Berman of the New York Post, some problems have already appeared with respect to Carmelo Anthony’s behavior in New York. Here is some of what Berman had to say about Melo.
Anthony’s pouty behavior in Friday night’s 99-95 loss to the Pistons, his bad oncourt body language, his failure to join a timeout huddle when not in the game has raised red flags about his readiness to handle the pressure for being a basketball star in New York.
…. Earlier this week, Anthony questioned the Knicks’ defensive schemes after the Indiana losses.
The Knicks have played 14 games with Carmelo Anthony, and the team’s record has only been 7-7. When we look at Wins Produced, though, the team appears a bit better than a 0.500 team.
Since the trade, the Knicks’ players have produced 7.5 wins, which translates into nearly 44 wins over an 82 game season. The source of these wins, though, may be surprising to those who see Melo and Amare Stoudemire as the star players on the Knicks. As the following table indicates, both Anthony and Stoudemire have been below average across the past 14 games (average WP48 – or Wins Produced per 48 minutes – is 0.100).
Although the “stars” have come up short, the guards on the team are saving the Knicks. Specifically, Landry Fields, Toney Douglas, and Chauncey Billups are producing 74% of the team’s wins since the trade.
In looking at these numbers, one wonders if this trio should be pouting. After all, if Melo and Stoudemire were as good as people believed, this team – with Fields, Douglas, and Billups producing as we have seen — could already be a title contender.
Of course, Melo and Stoudemire are not quite as productive as their reputations suggest. They are also not quite as bad as their numbers after 14 games suggest. In other words, 14 games is a very small sample; so we should expect to see more production from the Knicks’ stars. And one should quickly note….we also should expect to see less from Douglass. Last season Douglas posted a 0.083 WP48. And prior to this trade his WP48 mark was 0.085. These numbers suggest that Douglas is probably not as productive as he has appeared across the last 14 games.
Although 14 games is a small sample, we do have a larger sample from Melo’s career that allows us to conclude the following:
¦Carmelo Anthony is really not as productive as his scoring and corresponding reputation suggest. ¦The acquisition of Carmelo Anthony is not going to transform the Knicks into a contender. ¦That means the Knicks are not going to win as often as their fans and Carmelo Anthony will like. ¦But because both the fans and Melo think Anthony is a star, neither the fans nor Melo will ever blame Anthony for the failure of this team to win as often as they would like. And that means, expect to see Melo to continue to pout, his fans to make excuses, and other people (like Coach D’Antoni?) to eventually take the blame. " |
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NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62373 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "72-10 is a difficult yet real possibility for the Miami Heat." |
51-23
21 - (-13) run upcoming??
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jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
^Give it up. 3/30/2011 9:23:32 AM
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NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62373 Posts user info edit post |
dont worry, the season is almost over 3/31/2011 9:52:09 PM
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NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62373 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "72-10 is a difficult yet real possibility for the Miami Heat." |
54-24
18 - (-14) run upcoming??
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NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62373 Posts user info edit post |
So, 58-24
thats kinda not 72-10, or even 62-65
but who cares, i have to go find my old thundercats toys
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rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^ Wow some people get seriously butt hurt over nothing. Dude called you out on a message board and you are still upset about it three months later? Let it go. 4/14/2011 8:43:55 AM
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NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62373 Posts user info edit post |
i think you missed the point
its about telling mr know it all sports guy he doesnt know shit
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jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ Wow some people get seriously butt hurt over nothing. Dude called you out on a message board and you are still upset about it three months later? Let it go." |
4/14/2011 9:33:24 AM
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