Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Crisp was granted his 5th year 3/3/2014 1:52:56 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^that's great!
and apparently jarvis byrd has applied for a 6th year?
[Edited on March 3, 2014 at 2:06 PM. Reason : damn, 3 ACL tears, that's rough] 3/3/2014 2:05:56 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
^^That is fantastic news. Not just for the team, but for Crisp. Guy has the talent to be a pro -- just can't stay on the field. Hope this year works out for him.
Getting Byrd for another year would be great too. We need all the good DB's we can get, and he's a playmaker. 3/3/2014 3:11:26 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "71 percent of the expected fall roster will be either freshmen or sophomores. Just 31 upperclassmen will be on the team, the lowest since the 1995 squad, which finished 3-8 overall and 2-6 in the ACC" |
Ugh.
Luckily, most of that experience is on the O-line. But we have a REALLY young defense, and starting another first time QB. Signs are already looking like a return to last years performance, rather than any kind of bowl trip. At least the new practice facility wont effect Trinity or TX lots.
Oh, wait.3/3/2014 3:39:05 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
For those like me who were patient with DD last season, will have to repeat it this Fall too. 3/3/2014 3:48:35 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
6-6 is achievable. Our OOO is very laughable. 3/3/2014 5:50:36 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25534 Posts user info edit post |
Yep. Bowl game is definitely doable. Of course, OOC was weak as shit last year too. All depends on QB play 3/3/2014 6:06:21 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty much every problem we had last year revolved around shitty QB play. We couldn't run the ball because teams stacked the box. We couldn't get first downs because we couldn't throw. Our OL looked terrible because our QB's had no pocket presence.
Since we had no offense, the defense was constantly on the field. I think they were a decent unit that just wore down over the course of the season and started mailing it in. It's got to be discouraging as a defender if the QB can't even hit the simple throws -- let alone make a play every now and then.
If Brissett can just be AVERAGE and make a few plays per game, I think we can be 6-6 and make a bowl. If he can come in and actually be GOOD, we could surprise some people.
[Edited on March 3, 2014 at 6:29 PM. Reason : ] 3/3/2014 6:27:25 PM |
Wyld Stallyn Suspended 1087 Posts user info edit post |
I'm still saying we have a starting baseline of 5 wins. Might just win 3 ACC games though.
6-6 would be if we only go 2-6 or 3-5 in the ACC more than likely. I would like to think it's possible, but I have nothing to judge that off of yet. 3/3/2014 8:19:46 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
lol you guys
we won 0 ACC games last season
0
Jacoby Brissett going to save this dumpster fire? unlikely. 3/3/2014 8:28:22 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25534 Posts user info edit post |
If Brissett can be competent, a bowl game is certainly achievable. 3/3/2014 8:54:18 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
No one is saying he's going to come in here and be amazing, but he just needs to 3-5 in Acc play, maybe even 2-6.
[Edited on March 3, 2014 at 8:58 PM. Reason : ] 3/3/2014 8:58:33 PM |
Wyld Stallyn Suspended 1087 Posts user info edit post |
We have 4 guaranteed wins. We will beat a Wake team with a new coach at home. We will beat the 3 Sun Belt/FCS teams we play at home.
We should beat a bad USF team. Then it's just a matter of beating another ACC team at home. Prob BC or GT.
Pete Thomas could have won 5 games with this schedule.
Y'all got a boner for drama.
[Edited on March 4, 2014 at 10:13 AM. Reason : See y'all at the Military Bowl] 3/4/2014 10:11:45 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
I find it a joke that a team gets rewarded with post-season play for doing ^. 3/4/2014 10:13:55 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "71 percent of the expected fall roster will be either freshmen or sophomores. Just 31 upperclassmen will be on the team, the lowest since the 1995 squad, which finished 3-8 overall and 2-6 in the ACC" |
They say that like it's a bad thing.3/4/2014 1:16:06 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
should we rush the field for Coach Doeren's first ACC win? 3/4/2014 1:17:18 PM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But we have a REALLY young defense" |
Not sure what you're basing this on. I might agree with you, but our projected starters have only one sophomore, who is a returning starter (Tocho). The rest are all juniors and seniors.3/4/2014 4:55:29 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "should we rush the field for Coach Doeren's first ACC win?" |
definitely, and a parade the first time he breaks .5003/4/2014 4:58:34 PM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " 10 worst AQ non-conference schedules
NC State: Old Dominion, Georgia Southern, USF, Presbyterian Vanderbilt: Temple, UMass, Charleston Southern, Old Dominion Mississippi State: Southern Miss, UAB, at South Alabama, UT-Martin Alabama: West Virginia, Florida Atlantic, Southern Miss, Western Carolina Florida: Idaho, Eastern Michigan, Eastern Kentucky, at Florida State Arizona State: Weber State, at New Mexico, Notre Dame Duke: Elon, at Troy, Kansas, Tulane Pittsburgh: Delaware, at Florida International, Iowa, Akron Texas Tech: Central Arkansas, at UTEP, Arkansas Colorado: Colorado State, at UMass, Hawaii
NC State takes the top honors, and it's easy at a glance to see why. That's two schools making the transition to FBS, an FBS school coming off a 2-10 year, and an FCS bottom-feeder. Good seats still available." |
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/2/26/5401692/2014-college-football-out-of-conference-schedules-best-worst
We better have a close to perfect season...3/5/2014 12:18:57 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^do you mean ooc schedule, or the entire season? because the latter ain't happening. 3/5/2014 12:31:34 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
consider the season a success if we win those 4 games 3/5/2014 12:33:12 PM |
willembahh All American 2378 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "an FBS school coming off a 2-10 year" |
I like how they give us shit for that, when we only won one more game than they did.3/5/2014 12:50:02 PM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
Ok we better have a perfect season through sept 20th....
Just relooked over the schedule
FSU, Clemson and Louisville 3 out of 4 weeks... They better have enough alcohol in Raleigh that month.
The good news is with this ACC schedule, if we do somehow go undefeated, we will def been in the BCS championship mix.
[Edited on March 5, 2014 at 12:59 PM. Reason : ,,,] 3/5/2014 12:58:44 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, we need to first beat FSU at home. But beating Clemson in Death valley will be much tougher. If we do both, we will be in pole position in the Atlantic, and in BCS contention.
Must. Not. Get. Hopes. Up. 3/5/2014 1:04:26 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Beat defending National Champion FSU? Same one that spanked us this past season? Same one returning Heisman winning QB? Same one that has destroyed Doeren's system at both NC State and NIU?
HAHAHA, that's funny. Go ahead and mark FSU and Clemson as losses, Louisville will be interesting now that Bridgewater is gone, that one might be a possibility. 3/5/2014 1:08:24 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
^ We've spanked FSU the last 2 times they've visited CF. I still don't understand why folks don't get that CF is the toughest place to play in the ACC. And we also have a history of beating FSU when they were defending national champs.(Torry Holt?). It will be a close game.
And Clemson is without Tajh Boyd & Sammy Watkins and are in major rebuilding mode & will suck donkey balls this season. I see no reason we can't come away with a W at Death Valley. Infact I expect it.
[Edited on March 5, 2014 at 1:28 PM. Reason : ] 3/5/2014 1:24:46 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Wow. I see we've somehow escalated the conversation back up to what factors will determine whether we're going to play for the national championship ...again... before we have even shown that we can win one. single. solitary. conference game. 3/5/2014 1:35:39 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
^ You sound like an Auburn fan in 2012 3/5/2014 1:37:29 PM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The good news is with this ACC schedule, if we do somehow go undefeated, we will def been in the BCS championship mix." |
What makes you think they would let a team into the BCS championship that played the worst OOC schedule that included 2 FCS teams?
Quote : | "[Clemson] is in major rebuilding mode " |
we are still in rebuilding mode as well..3/5/2014 1:54:09 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What makes you think they would let a team into the BCS championship that played the worst OOC schedule that included 2 FCS teams?" |
Our ACC schedule is strong enough. FSU is a solid top 10 team, and so would anyone we face in the ACC Champ game, most likely a ranked Duke team.
I don't remember FSU playing a good team OOC last season. Strong OOC schedules aren't a thing anymore in College Football.
[Edited on March 5, 2014 at 2:04 PM. Reason : ]3/5/2014 1:57:54 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I smell a troll. 3/5/2014 2:10:24 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
double digit wins this year
no question in my mind 3/5/2014 2:13:54 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
I typed all that with a straight face 3/5/2014 2:18:54 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
You guys are missing the bigger question. Will this team ever lose again in our lifetime? 3/5/2014 2:42:53 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " We've spanked FSU the last 2 times they've visited CF." |
2012 - 1 point win on the last play of the game. 2010 - 4 point win where Ponder fumbled the hand-off inside our 5-yard line with <1:00 to go
Really? "Spanked"? Yeah, 2010 we got lucky they fumbled a simple hand-off and recovered, and in the other game we made a big comeback and won on the last play of the game. Don't act like we just "dominate" FSU at home, and neither time was FSU coming off a National Championship game or working with a Heisman winning QB. Just a little ridiculous to start thinking we have a legit shot to beat FSU when they basically just smashed us last year and had their back-ups on the field after halftime.3/5/2014 2:57:11 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
They were ranked #3 when we beat them in 2012, right? What about 2010? 3/5/2014 3:04:39 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
#16 3/5/2014 3:07:31 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/pot-charges-dropped-for-nc-state-s-thornton/13452950/
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/no-question-nc-state-s-qb-is-brisset/13452880/duh
[Edited on March 5, 2014 at 7:26 PM. Reason : ] 3/5/2014 7:26:31 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
even we weren't being lead by future nfl stars, we still beat fsu in raleigh in the daniel evans 3-9 "what critics" year. its just destiny.
We were not as bad as our record last year. We were competitive in a lot of those losses. lets also remember that a pete thomas team had clemson's best team ever (recent history) on the ropes last year. We probably played FSU tougher than everyone outside of auburn, bc, and duke. 3/5/2014 7:45:04 PM |
slckwill577 All American 757 Posts user info edit post |
^are you high? They were god awful last year. Completely pathetic in literally every facet of the game. The best player on our team was the kicker. 3/5/2014 8:17:09 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Yep. I expect our players to be pissed, especially after what FSU did to us last season. We'll be fired up to take revenge. 3/5/2014 8:32:09 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^^were you high when you were watching the clemson game? because earl actually has a point about us playing clemson pretty close (and were reffed out of a potential game-winning touchdown - yes, i think it's legit to still complain about that obviously wrong out-of-bounds call) 3/5/2014 8:42:38 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""what critics" year" |
3/5/2014 8:44:54 PM |
WolfpckGrl17 All American 5755 Posts user info edit post |
Guess who's back...........
http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/1381287.html 3/6/2014 1:59:29 AM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
well, not technically. 3/6/2014 2:40:23 AM |
slckwill577 All American 757 Posts user info edit post |
I don't understand how you guys can use "but we almost kinda were up on Clemson at one point if the refs hadn't made a bad call" as some kind of reason why we weren't god awful last year. 3/6/2014 7:36:58 AM |
slckwill577 All American 757 Posts user info edit post |
And played FSU close? Did ya'll even watch that game or just look at the score at the end? They scored 35 points in the 1st quarter. I mean I love our football team as much as the next guy but to say they weren't as bad as their record last year is rediculous. That team was a complete joke.
End pessemistic rant. I am actually really looking forward to this season. The style of play last year was enjoyable to watch; we just didn't have the athletes to pull it off. Hopefully this year we can begin putting the pieces together.
[Edited on March 6, 2014 at 7:44 AM. Reason : .] 3/6/2014 7:39:49 AM |
DalCowboys All American 1945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Yeah, 2010 we got lucky they fumbled a simple hand-off and recovered," |
No, Ponder fumbled the snap and had a wide open WR in the endzone, if I recall correctly. Still, it's not like we just got "lucky", it was a pretty even game. We drove down and went for it on 4th from the 1 (RW to George Bryan?) just before the Ponder fumble.
Point is that we have had played very well at home vs FSU and Clemson the past few years, even though we have been out matched in talent.3/6/2014 7:47:18 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^ No Ponder fumbled on a play-action fake.
"Still, Christian Ponder -- who ran for a pair of scores and threw for one -- nearly rallied the Seminoles, driving Florida State all the way to the NC State 4 in the final minute. But on the fake, Ponder extended the ball too far as tailback Ty Jones ran by. Jones bumped the ball with his hip, knocking it free and to the turf."
But you're right, had he not had the ball knocked out of his hand, would have been a TD and we would have lost.
Never said our win was "all luck", I just said that we got lucky and the term used to define our win was "spanked"...nothing about the end of that game, or the 2012 one, said that we "spanked" them. 3/6/2014 8:44:39 AM |
DalCowboys All American 1945 Posts user info edit post |
^ Yeah you're right, just knew it wasn't on a handoff.
Yeah, I wouldn't say "spanked" either, but we have consistently put up our best performances of the year recently when we host either FSU or Clemson
[Edited on March 6, 2014 at 9:09 AM. Reason : .] 3/6/2014 9:07:46 AM |