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aaronburro
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6-win season

4/7/2014 11:08:44 PM

Jeepin4x4
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Duke is playing strong ball as of late. No easy task this weekend.

4/8/2014 8:24:56 AM

fenway
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Yeah, yet another big series coming up this weekend. Win the series - get a game or three closer to .500 in league play - and then we get a 9 game home stand (save for the UNC game at the DBAP).

4/8/2014 10:51:03 AM

wolfpack2105
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^^no game/series is gonna be easy with this team it looks like.

4/9/2014 12:12:10 AM

wolfdawg4
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Take on ECU in Greenville tonight at 6. Haven't seen any info on who we're starting tonight.

4/9/2014 11:23:33 AM

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Welp that didn't last long. 7-0 beat down from ECU.

4/9/2014 9:11:04 PM

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A visual representation of this season:

4/11/2014 10:17:25 AM

BJCaudill21
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Lost 2-0 to duke. Rodon is 2-6. Became the schools all-time leader in ks

4/11/2014 10:57:54 PM

moonman
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Saw an N&O tweet where we've given him all of three total runs in his last five starts. That's not a recipe for success.

4/11/2014 11:03:00 PM

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Dumpster fire.

4/12/2014 12:16:36 AM

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no OFFense.

4/12/2014 12:31:21 AM

BJCaudill21
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Whoops. Up 10-4 going into the bottom 8th.. Lost 11-10. Lost the series.

4/13/2014 5:02:09 PM

fenway
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Apparently Woeck didn't pitch because he's going Tuesday, but in a situation like that, where conference wins mean that much more, kind of confusing why he never came in.

4/13/2014 5:07:42 PM

packboozie
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It's Avent.....is that a shock to you?

4/13/2014 8:43:59 PM

wolfdawg4
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Woeck was pulled early in his start at Clemson. He was in street clothes at the Friday game, so they were probably resting his arm this weekend.

4/13/2014 9:50:35 PM

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Who's going tonight??

4/15/2014 3:34:23 PM

DoeoJ
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<----

yay for buying seats under the awning, ha

4/15/2014 3:46:25 PM

WolfpckGrl17
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Damn this rain! I don't know what to do! Don't feel like getting soaked.

4/15/2014 6:07:57 PM

swedish
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been a long time reader...hate to say it, "twitter killed tww"

we're 2 days behind news

4/15/2014 10:33:15 PM

ecofsilence
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http://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=9744

First postseason projections. I'll save you some reading, we'll be hosting a golf tourney as of right now.

4/16/2014 2:47:56 PM

wolfdawg4
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Won 5-1. Look what happens when Carlos finally gets some run support.

4/18/2014 11:11:15 PM

WolfPack2017
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I keep hearing the run support argument, but I'm having a hard time with it. I mean, we are definitely doing bad because we don't have run support, but why then are our other pitchers doing so much better than Rodon in terms of win-loss? He's 3-6 right now, E. Peterson is 3-2, Jernigan is 4-3, and Stone and Woeck are 3-1. Rodon is our only pitcher with more loses than wins. Can somebody explain that to me?

4/19/2014 2:00:07 PM

BJCaudill21
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Other teams throw their ace on Friday too. It's harder to score against better pitchers. I mean he still has a ~2 era, it's definitely not his fault

4/19/2014 2:04:27 PM

WolfPack2017
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Okay, so basically it's that all of our pitchers are good, but every team has that one pitcher that's better than us (counting our run support).

4/19/2014 3:08:27 PM

ssclark
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every other team has atleast 1 pitcher that can completely shut down our offense is more apt. No pitcher we face is better than Rodon. However, if our offense is that much worse than their offense it doesn't really matter how good he is.

with a ~2 era he should not be losing more than he's winning, however with suspect defense behind him and no offense at the plate he's getting hosed.

2-0 is a loss just like 14-13 is a loss.

4/19/2014 4:39:10 PM

WolfPack2017
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Okay, that makes sense now. But then why are our other pitchers getting so many more wins? If the team (run support and defense) are doing so poorly, then how are our other pitchers able to win games?

4/19/2014 5:50:26 PM

spencer
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Our team hits the other teams' 2nd and 3rd pitchers better than their ace?

4/19/2014 5:59:40 PM

WolfPack2017
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I mean, would there be that big of a difference? Our second, third, etc. pitchers are that much better than their pitchers? I mean, Rodon's stats definitely show that he is good, but how can we explain the discrepancy between the team, his win-loss, and all of our other pitchers win-loss?

4/19/2014 6:55:38 PM

cptinsano
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BC wins it's 4th ACC game of the season.

4/19/2014 9:17:03 PM

GenghisJohn
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^^rodon is getting shafted, how do you not understand this

[Edited on April 19, 2014 at 10:42 PM. Reason : .]

4/19/2014 10:42:21 PM

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Bruce Levine ?@MLBBruceLevine

Cubs PredidentTheo Epstein watching LHP Carlos Rondon pitch on Friday. Rondon projected to go top 5 in June draft.

4/19/2014 10:53:11 PM

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Genghis John, I understand that Rodon is not getting help from the rest of the team, but I'm having trouble understanding how all of our other pitchers can be doing so well if they are playing with the same people who are playing against the same teams.

I know that Rodon is really good, but it's hard to understand why he can't get us wins if the other pitchers can.

4/19/2014 11:44:47 PM

wolfpack2105
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well then we can't help you.

4/20/2014 1:20:34 AM

spencer
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maybe you should try watching another sport then

4/20/2014 1:35:50 AM

ssclark
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my last attempt
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"I mean, would there be that big of a difference?"


yes. basically.

it is extremely difficult for college teams to field multiple elite pitchers. In fact, just last year, UCLA used two of the top 10 pitchers in the country to pitch them to a NCAA championship.

the drop off from most teams "ace" to their second pitcher is generally quite large.

Take A&T. the first time we played them they pitched their number one start against us. He held us basically scoreless through 5 innings (i think we maybe scored 1-3 runs on him) then they pulled him and we exploded for many runs and won the game in lopsided fashion. Even tho we basically sucked the D against their first pitcher, we got to the rest of them and crushed them.

4/20/2014 1:36:15 AM

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"Genghis John, I understand that Rodon is not getting help from the rest of the team, but I'm having trouble understanding how all of our other pitchers can be doing so well if they are playing with the same people who are playing against the same teams.

I know that Rodon is really good, but it's hard to understand why he can't get us wins if the other pitchers can."


You see it all the time in the pros as well. Sometimes when you have a great pitcher with an average offensive team they tend to hit worse when the great pitcher is starting as they feel more confident they don't need as many runs to win. IMO its a coaching thing.

4/20/2014 8:29:03 AM

WolfPack2017
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Okay. That makes sense now, like a lot of sense. Thanks

Coaching credibility check then?

4/20/2014 12:49:05 PM

cptinsano
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BC's fifth ACC win. #aventsarmy

4/20/2014 5:25:18 PM

fenway
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So now the team starts scoring, but the bullpen gets decimated by injuries. Let the dumpster fire rage on.

4/20/2014 7:35:51 PM

spencer
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^^ to be fair, we only have 7

4/20/2014 8:24:34 PM

packboozie
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Avent fucking blows. He had most of the fans fooled last year.

4/20/2014 11:41:36 PM

cptinsano
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Good outing tonight.

4/22/2014 8:46:41 PM

wolfdawg4
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First time we've been shutout twice at home in a season since 1976.

Canisius and Campbell

4/22/2014 9:22:35 PM

tower
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even last year he was doing stupid shit like bunting in the 2nd inning

4/22/2014 9:40:36 PM

ssclark
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State unc game at the dbap officially cancelled. Won't be made up

4/24/2014 7:16:24 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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Thank god

4/24/2014 8:22:08 PM

rflong
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Should just cancel the rest of the season while they are at it. What a fucking waste of talent this year.

4/24/2014 8:30:13 PM

GenghisJohn
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^

4/24/2014 8:43:50 PM

redirish
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For the Rodon W-L argument, you can't really discount how bad the defense has been behind him. For whatever reason it seems to be at its worst when he is on the mound. He's pitched about 20% of the total innings for the team. On the season we've given up 28 unearned runs according to the stats on GoPack. 16 of those were credited to Rodon.

4/24/2014 9:16:47 PM

fenway
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Quote :
"Should just cancel the rest of the season while they are at it. What a fucking waste of talent this year."

4/24/2014 10:03:50 PM

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