moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Bush told people to buy duct tape and plastic to cover their homes to stop anthrax. I guess there's a break point of inducing senseless panic, and trying to keep people calm, and at this point there's no reason to induce panic, or for anyone to panic.
The CDC and the hospital screwed up with how they handled the initial case-- i think this is pretty clear. But this is behind us now, and the gov. should be saying very mild things, to keep people off their hair triggers.
[Edited on October 17, 2014 at 1:48 PM. Reason : ] 10/17/2014 1:48:09 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^
That wasn't me being a hack. That was me stating the overconfidence of the current head of the country." |
bullshit, it was you trying to blame Obama. You are even doing it still in this post, calling it overconfidence.
Saying that an Ebola outbreak in the US is "highly unlikely" is not overconfidence, it's absolutely correct10/17/2014 2:16:03 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "probably because they didn't want everyone who felt like they had flu-like symptoms who had also been in the vicinity of a black person to rush to the ER in fear of having Ebola." |
haha, thegoodlife3 is a racist.10/17/2014 4:08:50 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
no 10/17/2014 4:48:36 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.local10.com/news/health/cruise-ship-with-possible-ebola-patient-turned-away-from-mexico/29198562
Quote : | "The passenger had handled a lab specimen from the Liberian man who died from Ebola in Dallas. And she's being monitored for signs of the disease. But officials say she poses no risk, because she has shown no signs of illness for 19 days. She's voluntarily self-quarantined on the cruise ship, the Carnival Magic. ... officials in Belize refused to let the passenger leave the ship. And the government of Belize said it had refused a U.S. government request to fly the woman home through the Belize City airport " |
O.o
[Edited on October 17, 2014 at 5:24 PM. Reason : ]10/17/2014 5:24:02 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
silly belize
dont they realize by not letting her in theyre putting themselves at more of an ebola risk
[Edited on October 17, 2014 at 5:52 PM. Reason : -] 10/17/2014 5:52:00 PM |
moonman All American 8685 Posts user info edit post |
Have we reached peak Ebola hysteria yet? 10/17/2014 6:15:14 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
If the person were actually at risk for having ebola, they're putting the entire ship at risk by not allowing the airlift. 10/17/2014 6:15:57 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
that ship needs to dock in an american harbor and the passengers be allowed to disembark with no screening. 10/17/2014 6:54:53 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
No, they should be screened, so the CDC can look like they're actually doing their job. They should just let them all go with low-grade fevers. 10/17/2014 7:09:47 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I've come to the conclusion that the media wants an Ebola outbreak in the US to happen 10/17/2014 7:15:04 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
of course they do...it means more viewers/readers. more viewers means more ad sales which means more profit. 10/17/2014 7:49:36 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
its already day 20 for that guy. after tomorrow, by the time they dock, he'll be off quarantine and 0 risk. 10/18/2014 11:28:18 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "silly belize
dont they realize by not letting her in theyre putting themselves at more of an ebola risk" | lol10/18/2014 7:36:10 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
No more new cases. Hopefully we're in the clear. 10/19/2014 8:47:49 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
but i thought the President was overconfident about the highly unlikely chance of an Ebola outbreak in the US 10/19/2014 10:39:00 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "America’s top infectious disease expert on Sunday again acknowledged that the safety protocols used for the country’s first Ebola patient were inadequate and that the Obama administration overstated the country’s readiness for the deadly virus, amid concern that Americans have already lost faith in the government." |
Of course you'll think it's BS since it came from a Fox news piece.10/19/2014 8:09:00 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
just about out of the media cycle 10/19/2014 8:13:56 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Well, we had to have something to get people to stop talking about he horrid debacle that is our handling of ISIS. 10/19/2014 8:28:33 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
When I was at the fair on Saturday, I seriously heard a redneck say "Just like you don't say bomb at an airport, you don't scream Ebola at the fair" 10/19/2014 9:59:05 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ our handling of isis hasn't been bad. The administration clearly has been working behind the scenes to garner support in the region, and has put pressure publicly on the countries in the rain to claim a stake in Fighting isis, and this seems to be working.
We could have probably gotten quicker reSults by using our own ground troops, but we'll get stabler results by making our allies in the region step up. I think this philosophy on the middle east is superior to the neocon strategy of nation building, world policing, and heavy handed intervention. It has a bigger potential to collapse, but it has a bigger potential to end up with a stronger stable system too. 10/20/2014 2:07:34 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
I think getting our hands dirty in syria was the worst move. There will be no winners there and niw when things hit the fan everyone can just blame it on us since were involved and fighting for assad. 10/20/2014 7:15:33 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
10/20/2014 9:21:47 AM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
Another infection in New York City. A doctor that returned from Africa on October 17, clearly having worn full protective gear yet became infected anyway. Instead of isolating himself at home as agreed, he visited a bowling alley, rode the subway, and rode in taxis, even after feeling ill.
[Edited on October 23, 2014 at 11:18 PM. Reason : .] 10/23/2014 11:06:07 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not really worried in this case.
http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/2k5fjb/patient_in_nyc_tests_positive_for_ebola/cli580f
Also pretty much the comments here http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/10/new-york-city-doctor-has-tested-positive-for-ebola/?comments=1&start=0 10/24/2014 1:37:50 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not too concerned either, but I swear, these medical professionals should know better. It pisses me off that they put everybody else at risk. They choose to go over to that cesspool of a continent and try to do some good, so they should understand the consequences. 10/24/2014 8:48:54 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
what makes you think that they don't understand the consequences? 10/24/2014 9:00:23 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe they do and just don't care? It seems like in some cases, you might not know your sick and then things go from good to bad to worse pretty quickly. That could put people around you at risk. Why take the chance. Stay away from anybody you don't have to be in contact with for the 21 days and then be done with it.
Or don't go to an ebola zone.
Here is my best attempt at a salisburyboy post:
http://www.infowars.com/medical-professional-health-authorities-covering-up-ebola-cases-in-u-s/
[Edited on October 24, 2014 at 9:04 AM. Reason : asef] 10/24/2014 9:03:45 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
did you just say that doctors shouldn't go to an ebola zone
that's a fucking ridiculously terrible idea 10/24/2014 9:05:54 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
That is a leap from what I was implying.
Don't go and fight ebola if you don't want to quarantine yourself for the 21 day duration when you come back to your home country. Is that better? You seem intelligent sometimes, didn't know I had to spell it out for ya. 10/24/2014 9:09:34 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i thought this guy was self monitoring and went in immediately when symptoms started 10/24/2014 9:21:50 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
If self-monitoring means "do whatever the hell you want to while possibly incubating ebola and only stay out of the public when you have symptoms" then maybe we need to change the rules. 10/24/2014 9:41:34 AM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
Cuomo and Christie are instituting 21 day quarantines for health workers returning from the impacted areas in Africa with Ebola. The CDC is not happy:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/25/health/us-ebola/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
This will only discourage professionals from going to help out of blind fear, which could actually lead to further spread in the end. This is not a scientific decision when it is known one can only spread Ebola when exhibiting symptoms. 10/25/2014 10:06:51 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not sure how yet, but this must be racist, right? 10/25/2014 11:21:21 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/25/health/new-jersey-quarantined-nurse/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Nurse slams new quarantine policy, experts say it doesn't fit the science. 10/26/2014 8:59:27 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
The doctor had a night out on the town hours before he was contagious. That is cutting it too close in my book. That type of quarantine is the only way to guarantee that nobody else gets sick. 10/26/2014 12:18:59 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
it doesnt matter. theres no way you're contagious until you're sick to the point where your'e literally spewing bodily fluids. Everyone around you would know you are sick. You would have known you are sick for a long time. No one would even want to have a night out with full blown ebola.
This is completely ridiculous and I would sue the media for spreading this irrelevant information if i was one of the parties involved. Now people are avoiding the ACL trains, the gutter has shut down and I'm sure business is down at that restaurant because the public is under the impression they might contract ebola from going there. 10/26/2014 12:50:02 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
clearly if these medical professionals keep contracting the illness, our understanding of how it spreads (or at least how to prevent it spreading) is flawed. seems like it's better to be overly-cautious than continue the status quo. 10/26/2014 2:28:04 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
^your understanding is flawed because you are not an expert. The only real flaw is in the putting on and removing protective gear.
Everyone who contracted the virus was literally working in close contact with pools of full blown ebola shit. These were highly infectious patients that died. 10/26/2014 2:41:06 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Why do Smath74 and rjrumfel keep falling for Fox News-style paranoia? 10/26/2014 4:03:09 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
It's not yet a worldwide issue, but it's got the potential to become one. Imagine how awful it would be if cases started springing up in places like Lagos or god forbid some of the cities in India or the favelas in brazil.
We probably aren't in any immediate danger here right now, but I wouldn't be shocked if we have one in some little town somewhere or on a military base when the troops we sent over there to help come back. 10/26/2014 4:37:50 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
I would think India would be the biggest problem. Population density + the amount of people who use the Ganges for bathing, washing clothes, etc seems like it would be a massive problem. 10/26/2014 4:51:04 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Well, that and the fact the complete lack of sewage management in those places mentioned. 10/26/2014 4:53:02 PM |
CuntPunter Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^your understanding is flawed because you are not an expert. The only real flaw is in the putting on and removing protective gear." |
You're no expert either so how in the fuck can you say what is flawed and isn't flawed? Go felate a late stage ebola patient you fucking asshole.
Quote : | "or on a military base when the troops we sent over there to help come back." |
You mean like Jacksonville, where they've deployed squadrons out of New River to help with ebola?
[Edited on October 26, 2014 at 4:59 PM. Reason : .]10/26/2014 4:57:56 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
They are not being sent to do primary care
But even if they were, and even if more than a couple people were infected, it would still just be a few cases and not an outbreak. 10/26/2014 6:45:37 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You're no expert either so how in the fuck can you say what is flawed and isn't flawed? Go felate a late stage ebola patient you fucking asshole." |
because I'm basing my analysis off the consensus of all of the experts. the main people who disagree are politicians who's opinion isn't qualified.
you don't have to be an expert to listen to what the experts are saying.10/26/2014 6:56:19 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
yes all of that expert opinion stuff is great, but trained professionals dealing with these victims are still contracting the disease, even though they should know how to keep from getting sick according to the training from the supposed experts. 10/26/2014 8:00:57 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
they are so expert they know if they get sick other experts will take care of them expertly 10/26/2014 8:14:29 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
When you have experts having a night out on the town all over New York hours before they're contagious...yea, I really trust the experts here.
And I haven't gotten one piece of this news from Fox, so for those saying that I do, kindly refrain. 10/26/2014 8:36:10 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
^^^, ^ are you trolling?
[Edited on October 26, 2014 at 8:38 PM. Reason : .] 10/26/2014 8:36:55 PM |