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cptinsano
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If only we played duke again. We'd have the potential for 2 wins against duke and one in the ACCT. But that might expose how charmin soft they are and ultimately hurt our RPI.

1/25/2015 9:05:38 PM

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"that home run throw in by Lacey cost us the game."

1/25/2015 9:06:01 PM

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https://vine.co/v/OTOdKrlhpwv

Didn't notice that in the game.

[Edited on January 25, 2015 at 9:07 PM. Reason : /]

1/25/2015 9:07:15 PM

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Wasn't Lacey fouled at the end of OT(fouled first followed by the legit block), not that he would of drained those FTs anyway

[Edited on January 25, 2015 at 9:08 PM. Reason : ]

1/25/2015 9:08:28 PM

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yeah but theres no chance he drains all 3 FTs which wouldve 100% ended our season instead of just 90%

1/25/2015 9:10:48 PM

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Someone please suspend tailsuck already.

1/25/2015 9:12:09 PM

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tailsock is the Wayne Tinkle of TWWers

1/25/2015 9:12:53 PM

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was at the game... did the half-dozen missed calls when we had the ball and half-dozen freebies when they had the ball look as bad on replay as they did in person?

1/25/2015 9:13:10 PM

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ND just played good ol DUke style "aggressive" defense

1/25/2015 9:18:14 PM

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Yes. This was a Hess like performance for sure. You blame yourselves for blowing an 18 pt lead. But it should be allowed to put fault on the refs for a lot of that

1/25/2015 9:18:28 PM

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yeah, we definitely missed some good looks at threes (although we didn't really need to be shooting threes so heavily late in the 2nd, in my opinion) but it wasn't like this was some huge choke job on our part as much as it was a gift to the Irish

1/25/2015 9:19:56 PM

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this was the worst officiated game this season

tick tacky fouls on their end and we get hammered on our end

fuck everything

1/25/2015 9:21:57 PM

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I know some people will come here and cape up for turner, but I am pretty much over him. Yes he is a great shooter but that's about it. Defensive liability. Did anyone else notice him just standing around on the home run ball allowing his man to challenge lacey's pass?

1/25/2015 9:34:37 PM

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for future use during televised events.

1/25/2015 9:35:08 PM

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^^ yeah, that was a terrible decision on Turner's part. I guess he was thinking stay back for defense, but you've gotta give Martin some help in case he only tips it (in addition to keeping your man away from him)

1/25/2015 9:36:11 PM

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I'm really tired and sad. Hardest loss so far for me.

My eyes hurt.

Screw Sunday losses.

1/25/2015 9:38:58 PM

ViolentMAW
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Serious discussion. Who tries to Grant Hill up by 2? I hate you NC State.

1/25/2015 9:39:56 PM

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Gott said it was Lacey's read and Lacey told him after the play that it slipped off his hand (guessing that's why it went 30 feet in the air instead of being a line drive throw). but as laxman mentioned, Turner not bothering to move definitely didn't help.

1/25/2015 9:42:14 PM

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I took this one the hardest as well. Can't pick myself up.

1/25/2015 9:47:11 PM

ViolentMAW
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But, but pass it in to get the foul. Why?

1/25/2015 9:49:42 PM

GingaNinja
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The good thing with WTF/NC State shit/heartbreaking losses is that there are so many to choose from. Affects each one of us differently.

1/25/2015 9:50:35 PM

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#statementchoke

1/25/2015 9:52:26 PM

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What the fuck was that inbounds pass? Up by 2, about to go to the line and you try that shit?

1/25/2015 10:01:52 PM

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1/25/2015 10:12:17 PM

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Tough loss, this one really hurts. Hope the team is ready to play on Wednesday. Need to win the next three. Also need another signature win so the Duke win doesn't look like a fluke. Beating UVA would help.

1/25/2015 10:13:03 PM

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1/25/2015 10:16:21 PM

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Terrible in bounds play when we are up by two. Half Lacey's fault for having the ball slip out of his hand and half gottfrieds fault for not making sure he threw it in in the backcourt.

1/25/2015 10:45:55 PM

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Oh yeah, and the Cody Martin miss from a few feet at the end of the game when it looked like he wasn't ready for the pass from Lacey was an absolute back breaker.

1/25/2015 10:48:09 PM

ViolentMAW
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Trevor Lacey has been want to make bad plays for a while now. We all let it slide because he shoots so well. FUCK.

[Edited on January 25, 2015 at 10:58 PM. Reason : .]

1/25/2015 10:55:54 PM

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Looks like you guys could've used a little luck of your own Irish!

1/26/2015 12:07:36 AM

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When we were still up a few, before ND caught up with 13:00 left in the 2nd half, I started yelling at the tv because I didn't understand why we were playing offense as if we were down 15.

Burn the clock, get it inside to Anya or let Lacey drive it. Our free throws were actually decent this game, but we weren't getting fouled because we kept letting the 3's fly with 15+ seconds on the shot clock. It made no sense at all.

The announcers keep chalking it up to rookies doing rookie things, but Turner is a senior and needs to start acting like it. I'm already excited for next year with Lacey, Abu, Anya, Washington, Cat, and Martin x2 after having a full season of experience together. I have faith Cat and Anya can get their heads out of their asses I just don't think it will be this season.

[Edited on January 26, 2015 at 12:47 AM. Reason : -]

1/26/2015 12:46:58 AM

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Nard has regressed
Anya is lazy as crap and looks apathetic
Cat, well you know
Turner is a garbage defender. he got scorched last night.
Tomorrow's just another day.

1/26/2015 7:16:27 AM

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"Burn the clock, get it inside to Anya or let Lacey drive it. Our free throws were actually decent this game, but we weren't getting fouled because we kept letting the 3's fly with 15+ seconds on the shot clock. It made no sense at all."


This was my biggest problem in the game. We blew a huge lead, but then were able to get it back out to 4-6 points in the last few minutes and we had Lacey bombing 3's from 4 feet behind the 3 point line with 12-15 seconds left on the shot clock. I loved the fact that in the Duke game we kept attacking down the stretch towards the end of the shot clock, but our end of game play in this one hit on pretty much everything I've come to hate about watching State play basketball.

The fact we didn't bother to rebound at all on their final possession at the end of each half was pretty awful too. Let them pick up 2 garbage baskets, one of which tied the game with <2 seconds remaining.

1/26/2015 9:11:27 AM

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this one fucking stung. hard. this team has so much talent and it breaks my heart to see them unable to close out games like that.

also...Cat Barber looks absolutely scared to take a shot these days.

1/26/2015 10:20:59 AM

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Same old story, have a double digit lead on a resume building win then seem to always fuck it up. It's starting to get old and laughable. The phantom foul on Abu in the last seconds of the first half was B.S, but blaming the refs is ignoring the bigger picture.

Poor offensive flow in 2nd half. Too many jacked 3s early in the shot-clock, we should of fed the ball in the post to the Martin Twins they know how to draw attention and kick it out, or they are efficient in the paint.

I think they should limit their 3 point shot until they have shown they could hit it consistency in practice. Poor rebounding on both sides and porous defense. Barber played good defense on Grant but the kid still have troubles running the offense.

I liked that he was aggressive late in the 2nd half as that's what I feel he's best, but it seems like his game is very highschoolish. He just drives straight for a layout, doesn't really create space and never kicks it out.

Also, is Gott mad with Washington about something? Seems like he is playing better yet his minutes are getting cut? Anyway, I like the starting lineup of Lacey, Cody/Caleb, Turner, and Washington.

[Edited on January 26, 2015 at 10:26 AM. Reason : ...]

1/26/2015 10:25:16 AM

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wtny

1/26/2015 10:27:35 AM

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I put this one on Lacey. His step back 3's, missed box outs and AWFUL inbounds pass were all killer. For the life of me I will never understand the one handed bomb inbounds pass. As a Division 1 athlete you should be able to throw a two-handed overhead pass full court without issues. You don't lose control of the ball that way

1/26/2015 10:27:50 AM

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"wtny"

I don't understand British humor

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"I put this one on Lacey. His step back 3's, missed box outs and AWFUL inbounds pass were all killer. For the life of me I will never understand the one handed bomb inbounds pass. "


Lacey is a baller but I think a reason for his poor playing in the end is fatigue. He needs to lose some weight in the off season as he plays an aggressive and explosive style and think he carries a little to much mass. He's not fat, he actually has a good percentage of muscle which makes for poor endurance.



[Edited on January 26, 2015 at 11:01 AM. Reason : ...]

1/26/2015 11:01:12 AM

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"Lacey is a baller but I think a reason for his poor playing in the end is fatigue. He needs to lose some weight in the off season as he plays an aggressive and explosive style and think he carries a little to much mass. He's not fat, he actually has a good percentage of muscle which makes for poor endurance."


I think he'd have more energy at the end of games if he wasn't expending it early by playing PG

1/26/2015 11:16:24 AM

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Lacey also played 44 of 45 minutes last night

There was a point in the first half that I literally didnt think there was any way we could lose, we were beating them on the inside and outside. Then halftime happened and we looked like a completely different team when we came out.

I like Cat, but Cody/Caleb did a great job in the first half defending Grant, then in the second half it was Cat defending Grant the majority of the time and we got burned for it.

The refs were shit, but that always appears to be the case in games we lose at home

Losing Abu absolutely killed us in the second half (he had 5 fouls in 11 minutes of playing time for God's sake). He is our one big man who could've possibly stayed on the court when ND went with a heavy guard lineup, and might've been able to grab one of those rebounds at the end of regulation.

Oh well, this game hurt me pretty bad, even though I should be used to it by now.

1/26/2015 11:31:03 AM

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Went to the doc to get a new nose spray for my allergies and they said my blood pressure was high. First time I've ever heard that before. Fuck you NC State.

1/26/2015 12:24:41 PM

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" I think he'd have more energy at the end of games if he wasn't expending it early by playing PG"


You could tell he was heavy-legged at the end of the game. Shots were all short, and he couldn't get by his defender (who was a very good defender).

I really wish we'd try to play Cat off the ball more as a slasher/jump-shooter/charge-taker. He can help us win, but it's obvious the team runs better with Lacey at point. Have Cat guard the opponents PG, but let Lacey run the point for us. Start one of the Martins and bring Cat off the bench.

1/26/2015 4:28:42 PM

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"Also, is Gott mad with Washington about something? Seems like he is playing better yet his minutes are getting cut?"


Washington has to be a frustrating player to coach. He's obviously got some skills, and his jump shot is incredibly consistent. But he also takes some incredibly dumb/forced shots in the post and refuses to pass 90% of the time. He also seems to be pretty poor fundamentally on defense and especially boxing out.

[Edited on January 26, 2015 at 4:35 PM. Reason : ]

1/26/2015 4:32:38 PM

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Hasn't Washington got in some early foul trouble the past couple games?

1/26/2015 7:02:21 PM

cptinsano
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I believe so.

1/26/2015 7:45:24 PM

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^I imagined this in a super sexy and hilarious voice.

Cause that's where I'm at. cptinsano is the man.

1/26/2015 8:25:00 PM

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"Nard has regressed
Anya is lazy as crap and looks apathetic
Cat, well you know
Turner is a garbage defender. he got scorched last night.
Tomorrow's just another day."


Sigh so true

1/26/2015 9:39:05 PM

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