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LudaChris
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^Depends honestly.

The bribery would still be illegal, but I don't know if you'd have the defrauding of the Federal government. If they aren't asking for financial assistance for any of the players, then I don't think they could hit them with that. They could still say the coaches were costing the team potentially millions of dollars in fallout from NCAA sanctions I guess.

9/27/2017 11:07:13 AM

Dynasty2004
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Pitino out and AD Jurich out also. WOWOWEEE

9/27/2017 11:08:48 AM

justinh524
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He won't be the only head coach to lose his job.

I'd imagine these assistants that are facing prison time will start spoiling their guts.

9/27/2017 11:11:53 AM

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"Pitino out and AD Jurich out also. WOWOWEEE"


Source?

9/27/2017 11:12:00 AM

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closest thing ive found: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20835336/louisville-basketball-coach-rick-pitino-tells-staff-expects-lose-job

9/27/2017 11:14:46 AM

justinh524
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It's all over Twitter from reputable sports writers.

Also the UL president has scheduled a press conference for 1PM and confirmed pitino and jurich will not be there.

9/27/2017 11:16:24 AM

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^ posted what he just said.


[Edited on September 27, 2017 at 11:18 AM. Reason : fff]

9/27/2017 11:17:28 AM

wahoowa
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The cleansing begins. Will Bowen lose his eligibility as well? Will Louisville even field a team in 2019?

9/27/2017 11:18:43 AM

Dynasty2004
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^^yep.

9/27/2017 11:18:45 AM

V0LC0M
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Do we know the locations (city or state) of the unnamed universities yet?

[Edited on September 27, 2017 at 11:21 AM. Reason : http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/college-basketball-bribery-scandal-ensnare-dozens-universities/]

9/27/2017 11:19:09 AM

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Looking forward to reading the UNC fans many responses to this scandal. They will treasure the chance to be able to look down on anyone or anything and pass judgments. Just some more hypocrisy and idiocy to soak up from the UNC fanbase

9/27/2017 11:20:51 AM

V0LC0M
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I have a really bad feeling about this.

9/27/2017 11:23:23 AM

HCH
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I'm surprised any of these coaches have jobs this morning. Looking forward to the news of Sean Miller being fired.

If I were a Duke and UK fan, I would be sweating bullets right now.

9/27/2017 11:25:33 AM

V0LC0M
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Why is that?

9/27/2017 11:27:45 AM

Dynasty2004
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^^^why is that?

[Edited on September 27, 2017 at 11:28 AM. Reason : s]

9/27/2017 11:28:45 AM

V0LC0M
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Because Gott is shady and I can see him being a part of this.

[Edited on September 27, 2017 at 11:31 AM. Reason : .]

9/27/2017 11:30:59 AM

Doss2k
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You would think they also would care about UNC handing out fake degrees on federal dollars and such as well but guess not.

9/27/2017 11:31:07 AM

Dynasty2004
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^nope but when you take money away from the greedy NCAA, they fucking pay attention.

9/27/2017 11:32:20 AM

V0LC0M
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https://sports.yahoo.com/former-aau-basketball-coach-says-wrapped-college-basketball-scandal-will-flip-feds-034806204.html

9/27/2017 11:33:43 AM

justinh524
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This investigation has nothing to do with the NCAA. It will lead to NCAA sanctions for teams, but it's not the cause of the investigation.

9/27/2017 11:34:34 AM

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Quote :
"In 2000, the Kansas City-based Piggie had built the nation’s strongest AAU program, armed with star recruits from across the Midwest such as JaRon and Kareem Rush, Korleone Young, Corey Maggette, Earl Watson and Mike Miller.

Now he found himself seated, with a lawyer at his side, across a conference table from the FBI. The feds had him over a barrel thanks to a weapons charge that, because he was already a felon, carried an automatic nine-year sentence. To get that wiped out, prosecutors said he had to plead guilty to funneling money to the players, according to Piggie.

Yet there was a twist. Roll up on everyone else, Piggie said he was told, from college coaches to Nike officials, and the case would soften.

“They said they’d give me probation,” Piggie told Yahoo Sports on Tuesday."


I absolutely believe this will happen.

9/27/2017 11:36:03 AM

HCH
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"Why is that?"

Because they (along with Arizona and Kansas) seem to have been the programs getting most of the top recruits. There is no way that Arizona and Kansas are tied up in this and UK and Duke aren't.

9/27/2017 11:38:38 AM

Dynasty2004
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I can tell you with absolute certainty that Duke has zero to be concerned with.

Coach K isnt paying players to come to Duke. why would he

9/27/2017 11:40:17 AM

V0LC0M
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I thought this was limited to Adidas schools.

9/27/2017 11:40:23 AM

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^there was talk that adidas was outbidding other shoe companies. adidas definitely ain't the only one. and i'm sure somebody is gonna wanna spill da beans when they get the opportunity.

and definitely not limited to adidas schools. south carolina is UA, arizona is Nike...they were named

[Edited on September 27, 2017 at 11:49 AM. Reason : f]

9/27/2017 11:47:54 AM

V0LC0M
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Indictment links:

US vs Gatto, Code, Dawkins, Augustine, and Sood - https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/998751/download

US vs Evans, Richardson, Bland, Dawkins, and Sood - https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/998756/download

US vs Person and Michel - https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/998746/download

9/27/2017 11:49:56 AM

BridgetSPK
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This shit is crazy!

9/27/2017 11:54:19 AM

dmspack
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gott to UL imo

9/27/2017 11:54:46 AM

justinh524
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Yeah it's in the reports that rival shoe companies were also doing the same thing. Also it clearly isn't limited to adidas schools when the assistants who were arrested were from 3 Nike schools and a UA school.

So far the known schools involved are Arizona (Nike), Auburn (UA), Louisville (adidas), Miami (adidas), Oklahoma State (Nike), USC-east (UA), USC-west(Nike)

9/27/2017 11:56:25 AM

wahoowa
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How quickly does the NCAA move to a player payment model after this? IMO the only way to level the playing field for all teams.

9/27/2017 11:58:15 AM

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Over the NCAA's dead body? It's never been about equity- it's about winners and big money makers and the rest are SOL.

9/27/2017 12:01:32 PM

cptinsano
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Pitino stuck with that shoulder tattoo

9/27/2017 12:06:17 PM

wahoowa
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"Over the NCAA's dead body? It's never been about equity- it's about winners and big money makers and the rest are SOL."


Do they have a choice? How else could they prevent this from happening again?

9/27/2017 12:07:19 PM

V0LC0M
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Merl Code (former Clemson player) apparently took bribes from "Company 1." Company 1 is Adidas. Code was at SC under Martin and now is currently at OK St.

9/27/2017 12:12:44 PM

cptinsano
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An FBI investigation? In my day you fired a coach over hard evidence. Like a book jacket.

9/27/2017 12:16:03 PM

V0LC0M
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Gatto, Code, Dawkins and Sood worked together to funnel 100,000 from Company 1 to the family of a high school player (Player 10) in exchange for Player 10's commitment at University 6.

Gatto, Code, Dawkins, and Augustine agreed to make payments of as much as $150,000 from Company 1 to another player (Player 12) to University 7 as well as signing with Company 1 when he turned professional.

Which universities are 6 and 7?

9/27/2017 12:18:20 PM

dmspack
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i think 6 is UL and 7 is Miami

9/27/2017 12:21:25 PM

Jaybee1200
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UNC under numerous coaches, NC State under Valvano, Free Shoes University, Miami going nuts for decades, now Louisville... man the ACC just keeps the hits coming!

9/27/2017 12:24:04 PM

justinh524
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Have your Vols fired Butch Jones yet?

9/27/2017 12:26:02 PM

V0LC0M
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University 1 - Public research university located in Alabama. 28,000 students.
University 2 - Public research university located in SC. 30,000 students.
University 3 - Public research university located in OK. 25,000 students.
University 4 - Public research university located in AZ. 40,000 students.
University 5 - Public research university located in CA. 40,000 students.
University 6 - Public research university located in KY. 22,640 students.
University 7 - Public research university located in FL. 16,000 students.
University 8 - ?
University 9 - ?
University 10 - ?

[Edited on September 27, 2017 at 12:30 PM. Reason : Several reports reference 10 schools but I don't see any others listed in the indictments for 8-10]

9/27/2017 12:27:10 PM

wahoowa
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Auburn recruit EJ Montgomery #31 in Espn100 for 2018 just decommitted. Auburn was one of the schools described in the investigation.

[Edited on September 27, 2017 at 12:27 PM. Reason : a]

9/27/2017 12:27:27 PM

cptinsano
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Fire Butch? You must be crazy. He cruised right on by UMass baby. We want Bama.

9/27/2017 12:28:11 PM

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http://www.al.com/auburnbasketball/index.ssf/2017/09/auburn_offering_full_refunds_f.html

Auburn already offering full refunds to anyone who purchased season basketball tickets. Yikes.

9/27/2017 12:34:07 PM

Doss2k
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That can't be a good sign

9/27/2017 12:41:15 PM

HCH
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"I can tell you with absolute certainty that Duke has zero to be concerned with. "
I'm assuming this is just internet posturing. Very few schools have zero to be concerned with, including ours. Duke went from losing ALL of their top priority recruiting battles in the early 2000's to being a one and done machine for the top recruits.

And you're telling me that, without a doubt, these players chose to play for Duke for free over schools who were offering $100,000 and the same exposure to the NBA?

9/27/2017 12:43:06 PM

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"Kent Taylor ?@KentTaylorWAVE
According to sources, Tom Jurich was asked to fire Rick Pitino, refused, both were fired
11:22 AM - Sep 27, 2017"

9/27/2017 12:47:20 PM

Doss2k
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Ah the old how can other schools have competed with the schools that were cheating argument

9/27/2017 12:48:25 PM

V0LC0M
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http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=20836549

DV getting emotional lol

9/27/2017 12:59:13 PM

cptinsano
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PP going full PP.

Pulling up every UNC/Duke recruit with offers from Arizona and Kansas. Chemtrails!

9/27/2017 1:04:07 PM

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"University 7 - Public research university located in FL. 16,000 students."


If this is supposed to be Miami, Miami is private

9/27/2017 1:07:14 PM

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