hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
6 Pages of Fun 7/12/2016 1:00:42 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Disagree with decision all you want, but don't come in here with th with this "suspect" BS." |
Quote : | "When you are [actually] shooting a gun at said police you are no longer in control of your life." |
I don't think you know the definition of "suspect." If you are going to argue semantics, then it helps to have right definitions.
Also, it's important to remember that Texas has very loose gun laws. So actively identifying a "suspect" vs. your run of the mill, law-abiding gun wielding Texan could be tricky.
Because Texas.7/12/2016 1:06:04 PM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't think you know the definition of "suspect." If you are going to argue semantics, then it helps to have right definitions." |
Quote : | "noun 's?s?pekt/ 1. a person thought to be guilty of a crime or offense. "the police have arrested a suspect" synonyms: suspected person, accused, defendant "a murder suspect"" |
[Edited on July 12, 2016 at 1:16 PM. Reason : were you actually going to make a point here?]7/12/2016 1:11:12 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
Yep. You don't know it.
The term "suspect" (or "perpetrator") is used by law enforcement because they are supposed to detain the person and then give them a "trial."
After this "trial," the accused is deemed "guilty" or "not guilty" by these things called "juries." If the accused is found "guilty," then he or she is given a "sentence."
And this "sentence" can sometimes be as severe as the death penalty. Death by robot bomb is usually not the sentence meted out by most courts, though. 7/12/2016 1:20:47 PM |
beatsunc All American 10740 Posts user info edit post |
for page 6
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synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
^^ So then you must disagree with any application of deadly force.] 7/12/2016 1:31:12 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
^ Correct. I'm very consistent on this issue
Law enforcement is not supposed to bypass the judicial process. That is a violation of your constitutional rights.
That's the entire reason why people were protesting in the first place.
[Edited on July 12, 2016 at 1:37 PM. Reason : ] 7/12/2016 1:36:17 PM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
So how should police respond when they're being shot at?
Duck and cover?
[Edited on July 12, 2016 at 1:57 PM. Reason : V wanna link to it? i'm not digging through your 92375673 posts in that thread.] 7/12/2016 1:49:12 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
You can go to the gun control thread if you want to get my thoughts on that. I'm not gonna hash all that shit out on herehere. I came in here looking for gifs of robots with police badges holding bombs 7/12/2016 1:53:18 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Sometimes you have to take the law into your own hands. Robocop is judge, jury and executioner. How's that for due process 7/12/2016 2:28:26 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89740 Posts user info edit post |
^ thats the same mindset the shooter was in, apparently. 7/12/2016 2:45:38 PM |
Bullet All American 28263 Posts user info edit post |
7/12/2016 2:47:55 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
I think the shooter was the lefts version of that guy who shot up an abortion clinic. You spread too much exaggerated misinformation and it eventually becomes a call to action for the crazies on each side. 7/12/2016 4:09:45 PM |
afripino All American 11375 Posts user info edit post |
^one of the few things JCEbot said that I can get behind.
#JCEMatters #NotAllBots
[Edited on July 12, 2016 at 4:44 PM. Reason : ] 7/12/2016 4:44:04 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
I think the shooter was the lefts version of that guy who shot up an abortion clinic. You spread too much exaggerated misinformation and it eventually becomes a call to action for the crazies on each side. 7/12/2016 5:37:00 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27740 Posts user info edit post |
I think the shooter was a veteran with mental health issues who was failed by the joke of a mental health care system in this country. 7/12/2016 6:09:12 PM |
MrGreen All American 2281 Posts user info edit post |
I think the shooter was the lefts version of that guy who shot up an abortion clinic. You spread too much exaggerated misinformation and it eventually becomes a call to action for the crazies on each side. 7/12/2016 8:03:51 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
What about Patty Hearst! 7/13/2016 7:15:55 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Sometimes you have to take the law into your own hands. Robocop is judge, jury and executioner. How's that for due process" |
I didn't want to get sucked into this, but you're thinking of Judge Dredd.7/13/2016 9:04:10 AM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
http://gizmodo.com/security-robot-pwns-toddler-at-stanford-mall-report-1783519433
7/13/2016 9:38:45 AM |
Kickstand All American 11534 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Hearing a report that one of our machines may have injured someone is absolutely horrifying. Many of our team members are parents and understand the importance of protecting our children at all costs.
To date, Knightscope machines have run for more than 35,000 hours and traveled over 25,000 miles, and this is the first report of any such incident. Similar to every other technology company in Silicon Valley, Knightscope strives to make improvements on a daily basis. Our core mission is to ensure public safety, and we are taking this report very seriously.
We have reached out to the mother to invite her to our office to meet the entire Knightscope team. We would all like to have the opportunity to apologize to her and her child directly. At this time, we have not yet heard back from her." |
[Edited on July 13, 2016 at 9:54 AM. Reason : ]]7/13/2016 9:54:22 AM |
beatsunc All American 10740 Posts user info edit post |
what kind of security robot doesnt even have a bomb? weak
Quote : | "Rev. Curtis Gatewood, field director for the NAACP’s North Carolina branch and former 2nd vice president for the North Carolina NAACP
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[Edited on July 13, 2016 at 10:09 AM. Reason : f]7/13/2016 9:57:51 AM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
^ i don't get how the Bundy's got so much leeway honestly. I think the gov. was legitimately afraid they would become martyrs.
I guess it's some credit to the black community that crazy, anti-gov blacks aren't viewed to be as dangerous?
Either way, after shooting 10+ people, most of them cops, killing 5, telling police you have a bomb and put bombs around, you can't necessarily expect to not be killed. 7/13/2016 10:24:04 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103353 Posts user info edit post |
it's just boys being boys 7/13/2016 10:38:21 AM |
SSS All American 3646 Posts user info edit post |
But they should have been patient! 7/13/2016 11:08:53 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
I dont think any reasonable person would have complained if the cops flew in a drone after the Bundy's killed the first cop. But it probably wasn't available to them at the time. 7/13/2016 11:43:02 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
for observation? or are you suggesting that people wouldn't be upset if a drone-fired missile was used? because if you are talking about a drone-fired missile they absolutely would. 7/13/2016 12:21:12 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ i don't get how the Bundy's got so much leeway honestly. I think the gov. was legitimately afraid they would become martyrs. " |
7/13/2016 12:41:05 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "At this time, we have not yet heard back from her."" |
That's because they're going to sue the everliving FUCK out of them 7/13/2016 2:10:19 PM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
^ yeah i loled at that same part
we want them to come down and meet us and see that we mean no harm
ok buddy. lemme know how that goes. 7/13/2016 2:12:16 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
they should meet on the next episode of Maury where he forces people to face their phobias 7/13/2016 2:21:55 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Wait didn't one of those white militia dudes get killed by the cops? 7/13/2016 6:28:05 PM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
yeah "During the confrontation, law enforcement officers shot and killed Robert "LaVoy" Finicum while he was reportedly reaching for his gun"
but i think the general answer to the above questions is they didn't shoot at law enforcement. plus the obvious, they're white, and just some good 'ol boys who didn't mean no harm.] 7/13/2016 7:08:51 PM |
MrGreen All American 2281 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is the whole reason #BLM exists-- to fight for justice and accountable systems." |
LOL, you mean to sabotage any actual justice and progress by dividing everyone, creating a race-baiting lynch mob, and further creating distrust between police and minorities based on exaggerated, unrepresentative cases of police brutality that go viral because it furthers the liberal victimhood narrative when actual statistics won't. Not to mention the paid protestors by George Soros... but yea, in typical SJW fashion lets just say "justice" and "equality" so we feel good about ourselves. #IStandWithSoros and if you disagree, or don't pay lip service, you're a racist.
Utter insanity, and I blame SJWs.7/13/2016 7:24:30 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Always nice to see the divider in chief couldn't resist lecturing police on how they are racist.... at a funeral memorial for cops who were shot by a racist.
Never let a good tragedy go to waste... disgusting.
[Edited on July 14, 2016 at 2:40 AM. Reason : .] 7/14/2016 2:35:35 AM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
All of this happened less than a mile from where I work. I'm surprised it hasn't really felt like that, other than seeing a few service processions pass by downtown etc. 7/14/2016 10:38:53 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Bush's speech at the memorial service was solid, can't help but think if the words came from a black democratic POTUS the people that need it the most would hear it.
Quote : | "Too often, we judge other groups by their worst examples, while judging ourselves by our best intentions. And this is… And this has strained our bonds of understanding and common purpose. But Americans, I think, have a great advantage. To renew our unity, we only need to remember our values. We have never been held together by blood or background. We are bound by things of the spirit, by shared commitments to common ideals." |
That's how leaders are supposed to unite Americans, but if your politics are reliant on division like liberals, I guess politicizing tragedies and lecturing cops on how they are racist (again, at their own memorial service for cops murdered by an actual racist) isn't beneath you.7/14/2016 2:59:50 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
I wish liberals and the POTUS would defend police officers half as aggressively as they defend Muslims.
After an ISIS shooting, the response is “This doesn’t represent ISLAM, there are many more peaceful Muslims than terrorist”. After a police shooting, the response is “This IS representative of our RACIST society and police”. (Before due process even starts).
If an American shot up a Mosque, we all know the left would immediately attribute it to “Islamaphobia” and conservative rhetoric.
When anti-cop, anti-white crazies target cops, you can’t help but wonder if it may not have happened if the media/left didn’t create such a hostile atmosphere for cops so irresponsibly.
To act as if these headline cases are representative of the American justice system, to act as if race is the primary factor, is deliberate ignorance and it is absolutely irresponsible. That’s the divider in chief for you folks, can’t miss an opportunity to tell your voter base they are oppressed victims that need big government, or to mention that only big government needs the big guns. 7/14/2016 3:04:15 PM |
afripino All American 11375 Posts user info edit post |
Well, you could have a productive discussion about police brutality and policy changes, but I think it is way more productive to have a divisive racial aspect to it.
Even if more white people get shot by cops every year, even if black people commit much more violent crime per year despite only being 12% of the population, I think we should all base our opinion on a few viral videos and act like it is representative of reality. Also George Soros will pay you to protest if you are on the fence. 7/14/2016 3:10:11 PM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12499 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Bush was smiling, laughing, and dancing like a drunken fool to the Battle Hymn of the Republic during the service, but please, do go on about how Obama was the disrespectful one.
[Edited on July 14, 2016 at 3:11 PM. Reason : $$$] 7/14/2016 3:11:16 PM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
To be fair, part of the blame is on the nature of clickbait media. Racial tension, outrageous viral videos, it gets clicks... unfortunately this leads to an over-representation of extremely rare cases of police brutality. This itself isn't the problem though...
The problem is when a divisive racial element is deliberately exaggerated or even fabricated, and even worse, when it is perpetuated and validated by liberal politicians like the divider-in-chief. Again, I get that liberals have to keep perpetuating this narrative that all black people are victims and 2016 America is racist, it's just sad that all the brain-dead SJWs and other lowest common denominators actually believe these extremely rare cases are:
1. Cause for riots or protests 2. Representative of police or society 3. Proof of racism
If you actually account for violent crime, black people are shot less by cops than white people, but naturally, these facts and statistics ARE RACIST, and if you try to have a reasonable discussion about this with SJWs they don't have a leg to stand on (aka Bleep boop) 7/14/2016 3:19:21 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Naturally that was the headline on your leftist clickbait. Obama could drop kick an infant on stage and the headline would be about Bush's smiling when singing a hymn how disrespectful!
[Edited on July 14, 2016 at 3:20 PM. Reason : .] 7/14/2016 3:20:19 PM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
Police brutality is a societal issue. Putting a race lens on it to further a victim narrative is just how liberalism causes division and shifts blame from government to an abstract scapegoat.
A higher number of black people getting killed by cops is not a "race problem" any more so than black people committing more crime is a "race problem" or black people having less wealth is a "race problem" or fatherless black families is a "race problem". Funny how the race filter only applies to the "activists" when a white cop kills a black person because that supports the "You're a victim, fuck tha police, personal choices don't matter" nonsense that only perpetuates the actual root causes.
If you're going to use the race filter looking at a problem you have to use it the entire time for all relevant factors, you can’t just toggle it on and off where convenient like liberals do to further these victim narratives. Doing so is deliberately ignorant and does more harm than good. 7/14/2016 3:24:39 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50084 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think he knows. 7/14/2016 3:27:30 PM |
Bullet All American 28263 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Obama could drop kick an infant on stage and the headline would be about Bush's smiling when singing a hymn how disrespectful!" |
This guy and his strawmen and his false narratives and over-generalizations and labeling and hypocrisy
[Edited on July 14, 2016 at 3:40 PM. Reason : jumped the shark a long time ago]7/14/2016 3:38:52 PM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
Obama is the "divider in chief" as he endorses these narratives that the liberal media spins. 7/14/2016 3:51:46 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Yea, you would have thought if someone told the cops the suspect was black they would have had a KKK meeting and just fucked him up! Right SJWs? 7/14/2016 4:22:21 PM |
parsonsb All American 13206 Posts user info edit post |
How are you going to say there isn't a racial aspect to how black people are treated in this country? There are people alive today that remember the police releasing dogs to attack them for what, wanting to be counted as a human being with the same rights as everyone else. That was not even 100 years ago, and you want to act like well the Civil Rights Act was passed so everything is good. Over 1 million Africans were taken from the continent during the Atlantic Slave Trade. We recognize that the casualties from WW1 and WW2 had an effect on the population, society, and rebuilding efforts of Europe. However no one seems to want to admit that not letting an entire group of people own property, get decent jobs, or decent education has had a lasting effect. It has been less than the average life expectancy of an american citizen since we said its ok for them to use the same bathroom as white people. 7/14/2016 8:11:46 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Over 1 million Africans were taken from the continent sold to white Europeans by their chieftains and clan leaders during the Atlantic Slave Trade. " |
20 million soldiers died in WWII.... 12 million from Russia alone. Over 60 million people died directly due to WWII
But you make great points... Please, do continue. Exxagerating helps drive home how right you are.
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thegoodlife3 All American 39177 Posts user info edit post |
set em up
[Edited on July 14, 2016 at 10:56 PM. Reason : .] 7/14/2016 10:53:58 PM |