lets go ahead and get this to the top after today's lovely performance.

1/10/2009 1:47:32 PM

It would be nice to get easy scores going against a full court press.


we are going to get pressed the whole season by teams that arent stupid

[Edited on January 10, 2009 at 1:49 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2009 1:49:29 PM

i might as well bump the Sun Devils thread too

1/10/2009 1:50:02 PM

PGs dribbling off their own feet, nothing sidney lowe can do there.

1/10/2009 1:53:38 PM

Can russell wilson play basketball? We need his calm, assertive energy

[Edited on January 10, 2009 at 1:56 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2009 1:56:04 PM

he should probably teach the team how to break a press

1/10/2009 1:56:13 PM

by stepping on the court he would double our decision making ability

1/10/2009 1:57:12 PM

He may be a good recruiter...but as a coach, he is one of the worst. He can't teach our kids shit.......his best decision would be to cut Ben and make room for someone else...

1/10/2009 2:04:22 PM

still credible

1/10/2009 2:04:30 PM

most of it starts and ends with sub-par talent at the guards.

1/10/2009 2:06:17 PM

Quote :

"He may be a good recruiter...but as a coach, he is one of the worst. He can't teach our kids shit.......his best decision would be to cut Ben and make room for someone else... "

must be opposite day

1/10/2009 2:07:17 PM

whole lot of stupid in this thread.


i blame every player on our team passing the ball into the stands. what were there 10 passes to the fans?

1/10/2009 2:09:36 PM

If Sidney Lowe can't fix our bad guards, then who can?

1/10/2009 2:10:54 PM

^better guards on the roster.

[Edited on January 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM. Reason : and experience. mays should be a solid backup]

1/10/2009 2:15:16 PM

I told you misses grace, you faggot troll. Welcome to reality.

1/10/2009 2:16:03 PM

^^ yep. we're not winning anything w/ these guys.

people need to calm down and realize that while he certainly missed on chris warren and ultimately it is his fault, our guard situation is going to take at least until next year to sort out.

[Edited on January 10, 2009 at 2:19 PM. Reason : he fucked up, but let him try to fix it.]

1/10/2009 2:17:30 PM

the team needs a damned leader, someone like J. Hodge. Nobody out there gave a flying fuck about the outcome today. Sid did show some passion, but it just doesn't translate to the players on our current roster.

1/10/2009 2:19:04 PM

Quote :

"ALWAYS NEXT YEAR"

1/10/2009 2:19:26 PM

^ not again!

1/10/2009 2:20:00 PM

Quote :

"PGs dribbling off their own feet, nothing sidney lowe can do there."

yeah, what would a successful point guard know about teaching basic fundamentals?

1/10/2009 2:21:47 PM

Okay I knew we would lose, I'm not upset about that.

I am upset that Degand/Javi still suck ass. Why are we not starting Mays? He has outplayed those two all season. Javi contributes nothing but steals/energy. Degand plays out of control. At least Mays has a chance to be decent.

1/10/2009 2:24:02 PM

whatever, i'm doing arguing this for now.

i will go on record as saying that if we don't make the tournament next year, i'll get behind firing sidney lowe, but until then everyone calm down.

1/10/2009 2:24:59 PM

Quote :

"i will go on record as saying that if we don't make the tournament next year, i'll get behind firing sidney lowe"

Say what you want the 3 guys, but we're losing like 60% of our offensive production next year, assuming Costner leaves. The only impact freshman we have signed right now is Lo Brown... we aren't making the tourney next year... Year 5 is looking like our year though.

1/10/2009 2:29:05 PM

1/10/2009 2:29:43 PM

If we can get Wall and Favors somehow, and we don't make the tourney, Sid needs to be fired immediately.

http://www.nbadraft.net/mocks/2010_nba_mock_draft.html

1/10/2009 2:31:32 PM

which is how many years it took ol herbie

people dont have enough patience nowadays

1/10/2009 2:33:10 PM

Quote :

"Say what you want the 3 guys, but we're losing like 60% of our offensive production next year, assuming Costner leaves."

i know but guards are so important, and we're getting such an upgrade in lo brown.

^^ no fucking shit.

^ no they don't, and it's a shame.

[Edited on January 10, 2009 at 2:33 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2009 2:33:31 PM

wow the little cunt ohboyee was right. he really went out on a limb picking the #12 team at home over us.


what a loser

1/10/2009 2:33:31 PM

Quote :

"which is how many years it took ol herbie people dont have enough patience nowadays"

Stop. Comparing. Sidney. To. Herb.

It's not comparable. Not at all.

Herb's starting 5 when he got here was CC Harrison, Ishua Benjamin, Jeremy Hyatt, Justin Gainey, and Danny Strong. Please stop.

1/10/2009 2:35:05 PM

who gives a shit dude

and Im not comparing them, its more of a frame of reference in that sid is not going to get fired after year 3 or 4 or even 5.

Stop watching if you are so displeased with this team and bring your fairweather ass back around when they start playing better. if not then whining isnt doing anything but making you look stupid.



waaaaaaaaah we suck waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah blah blah blah

[Edited on January 10, 2009 at 2:41 PM. Reason : sdaf]

1/10/2009 2:40:28 PM

Quote :

"Stop watching if you are so displeased with this team and bring your fairweather ass back around when they start playing better. if not then whining isnt doing anything but making you look stupid."

I've attended every home game this year nice try. I am the least fairweather fan you will find.

I am not whining about anything. I know we suck. I am realistic.

1/10/2009 2:53:54 PM

cc harrison and justin gainey would be a dream to have on this team

1/10/2009 2:59:01 PM

[Edited on January 10, 2009 at 3:16 PM. Reason : ohboyee, please shut up. please?]

1/10/2009 3:03:04 PM

cc harrison and justin gainey > any guard lowe has had except for atsur

1/10/2009 3:04:20 PM

Yeah it's all because of the personnel.

How could the head coach be held responsible for the poor recruiting and development of guards?

It's all the GM's fault, or something.

1/10/2009 3:10:38 PM

seriously, lowe should have started recruiting before he came and established recruiting contacts and pipelines

1/10/2009 3:15:29 PM

We'll see how the year goes.

Still too early to throw the towel into despair.

1/10/2009 3:31:38 PM

meanwhile the team that needed a last second 3 to beat us, marquette, just beat the shit out of a solid West Virginia team.

1/10/2009 3:32:37 PM

Quote :

"seriously, lowe should have started recruiting before he came and established recruiting contacts and pipelines"

I know you are trolling but look at Bruce Pearl at UT.

Four years Buzz Peterson didn't sniff the NCAAs. Pearl took over and instantly made them one of the best SEC teams and he came from tiny UW-Milwaukee.

1/10/2009 3:50:27 PM

Are you guys going to fire Sidney yet?

1/10/2009 3:51:45 PM

pearl had coached college basketball before.

in an interview dan werner said that sidneys lack of coaching the college game is why he didnt stay commited

1/10/2009 3:59:33 PM

^^^ I'm trolling and you are typing gibberish. I agree we should have hired bruce pearl. i would take pearl any day over sid lowe, herb, most other coaches in the country.

[Edited on January 10, 2009 at 4:08 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2009 4:07:50 PM

Quote :

"The only impact freshman we have signed right now is Lo Brown..."

All 3 guys we've currently got committed to us are going to play next year, and 2 of them are high impact guys (Brown, as you mentioned, and Howell)

1/10/2009 5:10:16 PM

I don't think Howell will be a huge impact freshman. I see his development more like Tracy Smith's personally.

Brown is a kid who will make an immediate impact.

If we're going to compete for a tourney bid we need Wall... just my opinion. I hope I'm wrong.

1/10/2009 5:12:28 PM

i don't know, a healthy howell is pretty dominant...

1/10/2009 5:24:32 PM

He's rated as one of the top post defenders that will come into the acc next year, and one of the better rebounders

1/10/2009 5:29:49 PM

yeah, he's pretty sick.

i wish we would have had room for Ari Stewart, too, but we can't make room for everyone.

1/10/2009 5:40:12 PM

im completely fed up with this basketball team.
i in no way, shape, or form wish we still had herb, but we have certainly not gotten any better since he left.
our offense has no flow, for some reason we cant EVER beat a fucking press, and our PG play is abysmal.

i do not give a shit whether we get favors, wall, cousins, shaq, or michael jordan next year or not. if the team cant show a huge improvement next year i say we give sid the boot.

1/10/2009 5:40:39 PM

good thing you have a say in the matter

1/10/2009 5:47:08 PM

kids are so dumb these days

1/10/2009 5:48:03 PM