PP has a story on the front page that says that we lead for Westside HS (Macon, GA) safety D.J. Green.
http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=4278994

Ht: 6-4
Wt: 202
40: 4.77

6/22/2009 11:23:03 PM

^he's big for a safety, but his offer list is less than impressive

6/23/2009 12:27:24 AM

2010 Football Scholarship Offers:
Bold = Commit

Map Link:
http://tinyurl.com/ch2nua

QB
No Offers

RB
**** Spencer Ware (Princeton HS) Cincinnati, OH 5-10/212/4.58
**** Mustafa Greene (Irmo HS) Columbia, SC 6-0/200
**** Braylon Heard (Cardinal Mooney HS) Youngstown, OH 5-10/165
*** Tobais Palmer (Georgia Military) Milledgeville, GA 5-10/165
*** James White (St. Thomas Aquinas HS) Fort Lauderdale, FL 5-11/190/4.50
*** T.J. Peeler (Broad Run HS) Ashburn, VA 6-0/175/4.49
*** James Holland (East Lee County HS) Lehigh Acres, FL 5-10/190/4.55

FB
**** Zach Zwinak (Linganore HS) Frederick, MD 6-2/225/4.50

WR
**** Tony Creecy (Southern HS) Durham, NC 6-0/190
**** Alex Kenney (State College Area HS) State College, PA 6-0/190/4.37

TE
**** Andrew Carswell (Sto-Rox HS) Mc Kees Rocks, PA 6-4/199/4.67
**** Brian Vogler (Brookstone School) Columbus, GA 6-7.5/246/4.65
**** Kevin Haplea (North Hunterdon HS) Annandale, NJ 6-4/230/4.75

OT
**** Robert Crisp (Chapel Hill HS) Chapel Hill, NC 6-8/290
**** Andrew Donnal (Anthony Wayne HS) Whitehouse, OH 6-6/260
**** Matt James (St. Xavier HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-7/260
**** T.J. Leifheit (John T Hoggard HS) Wilmington, NC 6-7/320
**** Robby Havenstein (Linganore HS) Frederick, MD 6-7/340
*** Demarco Cox (Yazoo City HS) Yazoo City, MS 6-8/300
*** Skyler Schofner (Johnstown-Monroe HS) Johnstown, OH 6-6/281/5.17
*** David Yankey (Centennial HS) Roswell, GA 6-5/278/5.53
*** Khamrone Kolb (Lake Braddock HS) Burke, VA 6-6/300
*** Jack Deboef (State College Area HS) State College, PA 6-7/265
*** Max Garcia (Norcross HS) Norcross, GA 6-4.5/265
*** Reid Webster (Etowah HS) Woodstock, GA 6-4/265 Clemson
* Michael Dennis (Carey HS) Carey, OH 6-7/260/4.9

OG
**** Eric Mack (Calhoun County HS) Saint Matthews, SC 6-5/318
*** Matt Rotheram (North Olmsted HS) North Olmsted, OH 6-6/305
*** Kalon Davis (Chester Senior HS) Chester, SC 6-5/320
*** Travis Jackson (St. Francis DeSales HS) Columbus, OH 6-4/250
* Christian Pace (Avon Lake HS) Avon Lake, OH 6-4/270
* Kolton Houston (Buford HS) Buford, GA 6-5/270

C
* Torian Box (North Clayton HS) College Park, GA 6-3/294/5.31

DT
**** Evan Hailes (Oscar F. Smith HS) Chesapeake, VA 6-2/320/5.00
**** Fre'Shad Hunter (Cary HS) Cary, NC 6-3/250
**** Louis Nix (William M. Raines HS) Jacksonville, FL 6-3/310/5.15
**** DaQuan Jones (Johnson City SHS) Johnson City, NY 6-4.5/285/5.05
**** Jibreel Black (Wyoming HS) Wyoming, OH 6-2/260/5.00
*** Ethan Farmer (South Columbus HS) Tabor City, NC 6-2/257/4.98
*** Michael Thornton (Stephenson HS) Stone Mountain, GA 6-1/275
*** Terry Talbott (Wayne HS) Huber Heights, OH 6-3/265/4.87
*** Marty Everett (Butler County (KS)) El Dorado, KS 6-4/295
* Jerome Davis (Buford HS) Buford, GA 6-2/255
* Thomas Teal (Marlboro County HS) Bennettsville, SC 6-1.5/330/5.50
* Eric Young (Hillside HS) Durham, NC 6-2.5/360/5.72


DE
***** Gabe King (Page HS) Greensboro, NC 6-5/230/4.91
***** J.R. Ferguson (St. John's at Prospect Hall) Frederick, MD 6-4/255
**** Zack McCray (Brookville HS) Lynchburg, VA 6-4/235/4.75 Virginia Tech
**** Alfy Hill (West Brunswick HS) Shallotte, NC 6-4/245
*** Brandon Burrows (Walton HS) Marietta, GA 6-3/235
*** Kareem Martin (Roanoke Rapids HS) Roanoke Rapids, NC 6-6/229
*** Marcus Rush (Moeller HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-3/210
*** Prince Shembo (Ardrey Kell HS) Charlotte, NC 6-2/225/4.72
*** James Kittredge (Don Bosco Prep School) Ramsey, NJ 6-4/250
*** Corey Crawford (Carver HS) Columbus, GA 6-5/235
* Justin Taylor (South Stanly HS) Norwood, NC 6-4/220

MLB
**** Kendall Moore (Southeast Raleigh HS) Raleigh, NC 6-2.5/229/4.78
**** Justin Parker (Beaufort HS) Beaufort, SC 6-2/210

OLB
**** Christian McCain (Page HS) Greensboro, NC 6-5.5/196/4.75
**** Christian Jones (Lake Howell HS) Winter Park, FL 6-4/215/4.70
**** Javarie Johnson (Dunbar HS) Washington, DC 6-3/210/4.50
**** Travis Williams (Lake Taylor HS) Norfolk, VA 6-2.5/200/4.60
*** Michael Taylor (Westlake HS) Atlanta, GA 6-1/200
*** Troy Gloster (Our Lady Good Counsel HS) Olney, MD 6-0/215/4.60
* Jeremy Grable (Milton HS) Alpharetta, GA 6-0/215

S
**** Keenan Allen (Northern Guilford) Greensboro, NC 6-3/195
**** David Amerson (Dudley HS) Greensboro, NC 6-2/180
**** Jakar Hamilton (Georgia Military) Milledgeville, GA 6-1/200/4.5
*** Roy Mangram (Georgia Military) Milledgeville, GA 6-2/200
*** Daunte Carr (Gainesville HS) Gainesville, GA 6-2/195/4.55
*** P.J. Clyburn (West Iredell HS) Statesville, NC 6-1/205
*** Dontae Johnson (The Pennington School) Pennington, NJ 6-3/185/4.50
*** Ed Reynolds (Woodberry Forest School) Woodberry Forest, VA 6-2/191/4.51
* Pete Singer (Chapel Hill HS) Chapel Hill, NC 5-11/175/4.50
* Frank Tamakloe (Our Lady Good Counsel HS) Olney, MD 6-3/189/4.50
* Chad Hagan (Canon-Mcmillan SHS) Canonsburg, PA 6-0/207/4.29
* D.J. Green (Westside HS) Macon, GA 6-4/202/4.77

CB
***** Lamarcus Joyner (St. Thomas Aquinas HS) Fort Lauderdale, FL 5-8.5/162/4.34
**** Johnavon Fulton (Manning HS) Manning, SC 6-0/180/4.50
*** C.J. Jones (Alexis I. Dupont HS) Wilmington, DE 5-11/175/4.47
*** A.J. Marshall (Southern HS) Durham, NC 5-10/170
*** Lo Wood (Apopka Senior HS) Apopka, FL 5-11/163/4.56
*** Rijo Walker (Bethel HS) Hampton, VA 5-10/171/4.5
*** Reggie Wilkins (Crest Senior HS) Shelby, NC 5-11/180

K,P
No Offers


------------------------------------------STATISTICS------------------------------------------


Scholarships Count
14 Scholarships Available (Note: Just using the # of Seniors for now)
-6 2010 Commits
+1 Transferred/Left Program (Cunningham)
-------------------------------------
9 Scholarships Remaining

Recruiting Breakdown
OFFENSE
QB - 0
Backfield - 1
Receivers - 1
Linemen - 2
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Total Offense - 4

DEFENSE
Linemen - 0
Linebackers - 0
Secondary - 2
------------------
Total Defense - 2

SPECIAL TEAMS
Kickers - 0

Geographical Diversity
Georgia - 3
North Carolina - 3

Star Count (highest of the two sites)
5* - 0
4* - 2
3* - 2
2* - 0
1* - 2
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Average Stars - 2.67

6/23/2009 12:29:08 AM

that breakdown is so comprehensive and easy to read

thanks and keep up the good work

6/23/2009 1:06:43 AM

Quote :

"^he's big for a safety, but his offer list is less than impressive"

yea, our LB coach wants him bad, but he wants to play safety. either theyre going to compromise and try to use him as a rover type or he has a decision to make

[Edited on June 23, 2009 at 5:02 AM. Reason : oh and fwiw, troy is a good offer. they get a lot of underrated guys in the south]

6/23/2009 5:01:25 AM

The fact that our coaches are really pushing for him to commit soon leads me to believe they feel they found a "diamond in the rough" type deal here. This could be similar to Good last year where we find a 1-star with little offers and by the time the year is out they're a 4-star with a ton of offers. If TOB and Co. want him this early in the process, then I hope we get him.

6/23/2009 8:31:15 AM

^, yea if TOB et. al. want him, i don't care if he's got 1 leg, he's probably kicking somebody's ass

6/23/2009 9:55:00 AM

aph if you want to update that list a little bit more there are two players who gave verbal commitments earlier:

Louis Nix gave a verbal commitment to Miami on November 28 and Christian Pace gave a verbal commitment to Michigan on June 2.

Also, Lamarcus Joyner narrowed his list down the other day. Unfortunately it does not look like we made the final cut:

ESPNU 150 Watch Lister Lamarcus Joyner told affiliate Web site Bucknuts.com that he has trimmed down his long list of suitors.

"I've started to narrow it down. Basically I've narrowed it down to Ohio State, Florida State, Florida, Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee. Basically I've been telling the other schools thanks for recruiting me, but I've got my top schools."

Joyner mentioned that he'll make an official visit to Ohio State for the Buckeyes' contest with USC. The elite corner also said Florida State and USC are "guaranteed" official visit destinations.

6/23/2009 10:07:14 AM

Thanks. It's been well over a month since I last updated the list so there were bound to be some errors. I left Nix up there because he's listed as a "soft verbal" to miami. Most of the other guys on there have varied amounts of interest on the program and I don't usually take them off until they commit elsewhere, but since joyner seems definitive about his top schools, i'll go ahead and pull him.

6/23/2009 10:31:25 AM

DJ Green Youtube Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRkkZwSVBRg

6/23/2009 11:37:34 AM

Frank Tamakloe to Wisconsin

6/23/2009 12:22:20 PM

^good, he woulduv been an easy target for teasing at away games anyway.

6/23/2009 12:49:53 PM

Jakar Hamilton is down to UGA and Bama

6/23/2009 1:35:06 PM

yeah I just read that about Tamakloe. The guy is from Maryland and his top 3 schools were Maryland, Northwestern and Wisconsin and he ultimately chose Wisconsin. Guy must have really wanted to go to school in the midwest.

6/23/2009 2:27:42 PM

Odd. But from everything I've heard, Madison is an awesome place to go to school.

6/23/2009 3:43:17 PM

Not sure if I like DJ's tackling style...seems to rely on the clothesline/arm tackle too much.

I'm guessing these recruits are for 2010 season? Don't know much about football recruiting...seems kinda late to be signing guys

6/23/2009 5:34:08 PM

^I'm not sure what video you were watching but the kid exhibited some pretty good textbook tackling form. That was the one thing in the whole video that actually stood out about him! He keeps his body low, he brings his head across the body/in front of the runner, and he drives through his tackles. I counted maybe 4 "arm tackles" and 0 "clotheslines". The thing about his arm tackles is that they were necessary. If you are in position to make a perfect form tackle and make an arm tackle, that isn't good. But if you are coming out of position, or the running back makes a good move, etc, then you often times have to reach out and make an arm tackle. That isn't a very easy thing to do, yet he seemed strong enough to do it. He looks pretty solid.

6/23/2009 6:42:04 PM

Article on the recent commitments.
http://robesonian.com/bookmark/2775689

6/23/2009 10:06:50 PM

^^ I agree he was making solid tackles

The one thing I did see (and this is getting really picky) is that sometimes he would wait on the ball carrier to get him instead of getting downhill and blowing him up. Seems like he wants to be a rangy, hitting safety in the Sean Taylor mold.

6/23/2009 10:35:55 PM

Quote :

""My favorite right now is NC State," he said. "I feel like they really want me the most, and the coaches are real. They try to build a good relationship with you and I like that. "When I was talking with the coaches they said for me to make a decision whenever I was ready. They said to pick the school that I fit best and would be the best decision for me, even if it wasn't NC State.""

- D.J. Green


I think this quote shows off the character that our coaching staff has. They aren't here to bullshit any of these kids and truly want what's best for their future, even if that doesn't lie with NC State.

6/24/2009 12:05:04 AM

yeah

but we all know they go out of their way to say that just to elicit that reaction from the kids

seriously though, we have a really great staff.

6/24/2009 12:31:11 AM

^^^ that's generally proper technique for a high school safety because at that level, if the running back even gets to you, it means you're the last line of defense and it's 6 if he gets by you... unlike in college where the linebackers take a lot better angles and have better lateral speed.

6/24/2009 1:04:57 AM

From the Fayetteville Observer

Quote :

"The visit also marked Box's first in-person meeting with Wolfpack head coach Tom O'Brien. "Everyone told me he was a straight forward guy,'' Box said. "He's not about the hype and all that. I sat there talking with him about 20 minutes. He was pretty cool. Everything I was told about him was right.''"

6/24/2009 7:21:10 AM

today is supposed to be state's biggest camp day with some big time names making their way to Raleigh. I know Crisp and Creecy will be there too.

6/24/2009 8:38:47 AM

Quote :

"Recruiting: State headed for big year"

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/college_football/story/5420384/

6/24/2009 9:12:33 AM

Evan Hailes named his top 5 and we are still in it. It doesn't sound too promising though. He does not plan to visit us. It seems like he is going to decide between Penn State, Va Tech and Tennessee.

http://www.nittanynetwork.com/index.php/component/resource/article/450-all-hailes-the-lions?

6/24/2009 9:39:36 AM

on packpride when they say TOS, what does it mean? 'the other site' referring to Rivals?

6/24/2009 9:57:44 AM

^^I'd guess Va. Tech but I'd love to land him.

^Yes, TOS = Rivals.

6/24/2009 9:58:39 AM

Hailes may not officially visit us but maybe that's because:

Quote :

""I was there for a Junior Day... I've been a couple of times to NC State," said Hailes. "The only places I've really been so far is NC State and West Virginia, but I like it a lot at NC State. I feel comfortable there. I like their coaching staff because they are all down-to-earth and they make me feel like they want me to go to school there."

6/24/2009 11:42:17 AM

if we get off to a hot start then recruits like Hailes are going to be giving us a really hard look

6/24/2009 11:47:54 AM

Can someone post that WRAL article "Recruiting: State headed for big year"? I can't access their sports section from work.

6/24/2009 11:52:07 AM

^

Recruiting: State headed for big year


The weekend oral commitment of Southern Durham High receiver Anthony Creecy was more evidence that N.C. State may be poised for a big year when it comes to landing in-state talent.

Creecy is the second player regarded as the best in the state at his position to make a pledge to the Wolfpack's Class of 2010. The two major recruiting networks, Rivals.com and Scout.com, both have Creecy and Chapel Hill offensive tackle Robert Crisp in their early list of the nation's Top 100 prospects. Crisp committed to N.C. State in April.

The impressive start is a contrast to a year ago when the Wolfpack didn't sign a single player ranked in the state's top 10 and had only three in the top 30 – linebacker Ricky Dowdy, quarterback Everett Proctor and defensive lineman Sylvester Crawford.

This could be shaping up to be a year more like 2008 when N.C. State grabbed the state's No. 1 linebacker (Terrell Manning) and top offensive lineman (R.J. Mattes). The Wolfpack claimed eight of the state's top 30 players that year.

But when it comes to signing the top position players since 2002, the Wolfpack had its best showing in '03 by landing the No. 1 defensive end (Mario Williams), athlete (Chris Hawkins) and linebacker (Ernest Jones).

Creecy wasn't alone

Creecy's commitment wasn't the only one received by the Wolfpack over the weekend.

College Park, Ga., offensive lineman Torian Box also chose N.C. State after visiting the campus for the first time on Saturday. A 6-foot-4, 285-pounder, Box will be starting for a fourth straight season at North Clayton High in 2009.

Box moved to Georgia from Rockford, Ill., at age 8, but didn't start playing organized football until middle school. He was a quick study, however, earning a starting job at tackle on North Clayton's offensive line as a freshman. Box missed all but the final four games of his sophomore season with a sprained MCL before bouncing back with a big junior year.

East Carolina, Mississippi State and UAB had offered Box scholarships, but he knew even before taking the visit to Raleigh last weekend he wanted to join the Wolfpack.

"Me and my (high school) coach talked about it before I came up on my visit,'' Box said Tuesday morning. "He came to my house Friday to talk to my family, and everyone was cool with it. I pretty much had my mind halfway made up about N.C. State at that point. But after seeing the campus and the facilities, that sealed the deal.''

The visit also marked Box's first in-person meeting with Wolfpack head coach Tom O'Brien.

"Everyone told me he was a straight forward guy,'' Box said. "He's not about the hype and all that. I sat there talking with him about 20 minutes. He was pretty cool. Everything I was told about him was right.''

The commitments from Creecy and Box bring N.C. State's total to six.

Names and notions ...

South Carolina has received an oral commitment from Winston-Salem Parkland defensive tackle J.T. Surratt . Surratt, a 6-3, 287-pounder, chose the Gamecocks over offers from East Carolina, Louisville, Marshall and Wake Forest. ... Weddington High's big defensive tackle Darius Kilgo (6-5, 311) currently holds seven scholarship offers, but says East Carolina, North Carolina and South Carolina are his favorites, even though the Tar Heels haven't offered yet. ... South Stanly defensive end Justin Taylor (6-4, 220) has quietly accumulated an impressive list of offers from Arkansas, Auburn, East Carolina, Kentucky, Louisville, N.C. State and Virginia Tech.

[Edited on June 24, 2009 at 11:56 AM. Reason : removed junk]

6/24/2009 11:55:44 AM

Quote :

"^^ I agree he was making solid tackles The one thing I did see (and this is getting really picky) is that sometimes he would wait on the ball carrier to get him instead of getting downhill and blowing him up. Seems like he wants to be a rangy, hitting safety in the Sean Taylor mold."

That's exactly what I was thinking when i was watching. He seemed very in control, which is good, and good tackling, but I just didn't see that "flying to the ball" kind of intensity. Which could be good and bad. I think he would make a pretty solid outside linebacker or nickle back with his size and ability to contain on the outside. But not someone I would expect to make a lot of great plays in the back field or a strong saftey that is flying up into the box.

6/24/2009 11:56:29 AM

^^ That's the same exact article that I read on the Fayetteville Observer's website. Stupid work blocking any site with sport in the title.

6/24/2009 12:01:14 PM

what ive noticed is that Sammy Batten (who writes for FayObs) also has his stories picked up by WRAL.

6/24/2009 12:49:21 PM

Quote :

"That's exactly what I was thinking when i was watching. He seemed very in control, which is good, and good tackling, but I just didn't see that "flying to the ball" kind of intensity. Which could be good and bad. I think he would make a pretty solid outside linebacker or nickle back with his size and ability to contain on the outside. But not someone I would expect to make a lot of great plays in the back field or a strong saftey that is flying up into the box."

I think that would be the coach not calling a blitzing defense, which makes sense in the times they're playing against that veer/option/Wakeforest offense.

6/24/2009 1:06:58 PM

A lot of high schools still run the option b/c most QBs at the high school level haven't developed enough arm strength and touch on the ball to be trusted to run an offense that passes as often as those in college and the pros. Also it is a great equalizer when it comes to talent.

6/24/2009 1:13:58 PM

David Amerson and Kendall Moore are prolly the two biggest names at camp today that haven't committed. It will be nice to have Creecy and Crisp on campus to be in their ear today

6/24/2009 1:42:09 PM

Quote :

"I think that would be the coach not calling a blitzing defense, which makes sense in the times they're playing against that veer/option/Wakeforest offense."

I'm with ya, but pursuing the ball carrier isn't blitzing. He's very in control of himself and patient, which are good things, but for a saftey that big who only runs a 4.77 40 (he would have to be more of a run support saftey in my opinion, most recievers could run right past him) he would need to play a little more downhill in my opinion

6/24/2009 1:53:14 PM

^ He recently ran a 4.6 flat 40 at a combine. D.J., like many kids who don't run track, was doing it with bad technique. While I put some stock in a guy's 40 time (especially if it is sub 4.4), I more want to see how they run in pads. I'd rather have a football player than a track star.

OT Logan Stewart, who was very high on us and probably would have committed if offered, committed to Vanderbilt recently.

Quote :

"Offensive lineman Logan Stewart of Boiling Springs (S.C.) High has committed to Vanderbilt. The 6-foot-5, 278-pound Stewart, No. 23 on our S.C. Top 25 Prospects List, was also offered by South Carolina, East Carolina, Air Force, Appalachian State, Western Carolina and Liberty. He said it was tough picking Vanderbilt over the Gamecocks, especially after Boiling Springs quarterback and good friend Dylan Thompson had committed to South Carolina."

6/24/2009 2:15:25 PM

I can't overstate how happy I am that this thread has picked back up.

[Edited on June 24, 2009 at 2:23 PM. Reason : God, I am ready for football.]

6/24/2009 2:23:07 PM

^ how dare you say something as idiotic as that. People posting useless info about football recruiting is ruining the ****talking and Bull****ing. This should be more like the basketball thread. lol

6/24/2009 3:00:29 PM

Quote :

"^ He recently ran a 4.6 flat 40 at a combine. D.J., like many kids who don't run track, was doing it with bad technique. While I put some stock in a guy's 40 time (especially if it is sub 4.4), I more want to see how they run in pads. I'd rather have a football player than a track star. OT Logan Stewart, who was very high on us and probably would have committed if offered, committed to Vanderbilt recently."

That's good to hear, but regardless 4.77 is pretty slow for a DB...and I'm with ya, he seemed to be able to read plays well and took good angles to the ball. I still think he would make a better college linebacker/nickle back/rover than a true saftey

6/24/2009 3:28:12 PM

^Linebacker/rover yes. But nickelbacks typically have to be lightning quick. You're covering the slot WR, which more-often-than-not is fast as shit.

6/24/2009 4:23:14 PM

i think some of you guys really overrate the speed of college players. dj green's "4.6" really being like a 4.77 is not out of the ordinary at all. some LBs in the ACC would struggle to crack 5.0. jon abbate ran a 5.04 at the combine for instance. these guys get weeded out fast in the NFL but there's a spot for them at this level

6/24/2009 5:03:49 PM

DJ said he was finally taught how to run the 40 right, and he didn't just do the 4.6 one time. He's done it a couple of times since.

6/24/2009 6:37:58 PM

That's the thing, after college these kids will work with trainers to get their 40 time ready for combines, and I'm sure many do that out of high school to increase their stock. Game-speed and combine-speed are 2 completely different things, and I'll take game-speed all day.

6/24/2009 6:43:30 PM

we just got another commit

6/24/2009 7:14:55 PM

Whoo! Who?

6/24/2009 7:19:50 PM

Thomas Teal

[Edited on June 24, 2009 at 7:23 PM. Reason : http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=3743468]

6/24/2009 7:22:39 PM