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"I wasn't watching that closely...what was the deal with the cabin guy? He acted like he had no idea what was going on (zombie apocalypse). He was saying he was gonna call the cops or something. Clearly he lived off the grid and was isolated, but I still feel like he'd come across walkers. Hell, it's been something like 10 months. Surely he couldn't have been that isolated."

my guess was that he was a little mentally unstable and/or mainly they were using it as a way to show michonne could be trusted

[Edited on November 25, 2012 at 11:06 PM. Reason : quote]

11/25/2012 11:05:44 PM

This was a tense episode, but never really took off like it was hyped to. This makes next week even more anticipated. The Glenn vs Zombie scene was awesome, but the Cabin scene was just weird and did not add anything to the story EXCEPT showing Michonne's willingness to kill a man who is endangering the group.

11/25/2012 11:08:28 PM

^^Makes sense. And it's definitely not a big deal...his character isn't/wasn't important at all. And the scene wasn't all the important other than it was the group's first experience with Michonne in a tense situation.

[Edited on November 25, 2012 at 11:23 PM. Reason : d]

11/25/2012 11:22:43 PM

^^i agree the hermit scene was kinda weird, but it also showed that, of course, there are isolated survivors still surviving. it's understandable that a Georgian wood-dwelling moonshiner, who'd probably only seen small packs of walkers in the last 10 months, and was probably cabin-crazy (he had a dead pet wolf that he might of been eating?), was startled by a group of 4 livings (especially 2 blacks) busting into his cabin and waking him from a deep sleep. I'd bet that mental illness would increase dramatically during the zombie apocalypse.

[Edited on November 25, 2012 at 11:35 PM. Reason : ^^]

11/25/2012 11:34:24 PM

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"That’s the reason Michonne killed him. He was clearly losing his mind and was not all there and was not only a clear danger to them in that moment but would have been dangerous to have around in the future as well. That guy had completely lost it—that’s what we were trying to convey with that dialog."

per Robert Kirkman

11/26/2012 8:32:56 AM

I like that that from Michonne's perspective there is initially little difference between Rick and The governor; he takes her weapon, imprisons her, and even harms her (which seem to make little sense). That foil is a logical one with both of them being leaders of their respective groups. I also like how they began to demonstrate differences to her, e.g. her overhearing Rick thanking Darryl for his childcare, Herschel fixing her up, and her immediate release.

Also, Glen is awesome.

11/26/2012 9:27:36 AM

11/26/2012 12:05:50 PM

I don't believe that Michonne wouldn't have heard about Rick's group in intimate detail. She was alone with Andrea 24/7 for 7 months. You're telling me that Andrea wouldn't have told Michonne tons of stories about the group? I halfway expected her to greet Rick/Carl/etc by name. At the very least Michonne knew the Andrea-Merle connection, and she obviously heard the Merle-Glenn & Maggie-Daryl connection, so she would have to know that these are Andrea's people? I get that it will probably make for a great dramatic moment next week when the group unexpectedly re-unites with Andrea, but yet again the writers are going for drama over anything even remotely resembling common sense. It's getting old.

11/26/2012 1:24:11 PM

Anybody know where the "season" resumes? This mid-season finale is bullshit...and I can't find anything online stating when it will resume.

11/26/2012 1:28:34 PM

the show premiered in 2010, so i cant imagine the "second half" of this season starting any later than summer/fall 2013

11/26/2012 1:57:33 PM

february

[Edited on November 26, 2012 at 2:13 PM. Reason : they did the same thing last year. oct-nov then feb-march]

11/26/2012 2:09:53 PM

I agree with Grantland that the Governor is miscast. I haven't read the comics, but the guy playing him doesn't come off as scary or menacing.

11/26/2012 5:26:26 PM

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"I don't believe that Michonne wouldn't have heard about Rick's group in intimate detail. She was alone with Andrea 24/7 for 7 months. You're telling me that Andrea wouldn't have told Michonne tons of stories about the group? I halfway expected her to greet Rick/Carl/etc by name. At the very least Michonne knew the Andrea-Merle connection, and she obviously heard the Merle-Glenn & Maggie-Daryl connection, so she would have to know that these are Andrea's people? I get that it will probably make for a great dramatic moment next week when the group unexpectedly re-unites with Andrea, but yet again the writers are going for drama over anything even remotely resembling common sense. It's getting old."

if you haven't noticed, michonne doesn't trust anyone and doesn't talk much. It's totally believable that she knew very little about andrea's time with the group, and there's no reason she should trust them. sure, she might of heard merle and glennn talking, and she might of been able to put together the connection, but there's still no reason she would greet the group with open arms. i think her actions are totally believable. it's the fucking zombie apocalypse, trust no one until they prove they can be trusted.

11/26/2012 7:29:25 PM

There's power to be had in "Hey, I know you, I'm friends with one of your people, I can take you to where, not only two of your friends are being held, but also where Andrea is." I'm not saying she has to just blindly trust them, but she could gain a lot of good will if she explained her situation just a little bit.

But that discussion is sort of ahead of the point I was trying to make. To debate whether she would or wouldn't give out that information presumes that the writers would have thought to give her that sort of backstory info in the first place, and I'm saying we have no reason to believe that they thought that far ahead (or behind as the case may be) Again, I simply refuse to believe that in a real world situation, two women can spend every waking moment together for 7 months and not have discussions about their pasts including details about who Andrea was with and exactly what happened in Atlanta, the road, and the farm. Fucking zombie apocalypse or not.

11/26/2012 7:51:13 PM

i have an old question, the governor was earlier seen w/ a naked woman in his bed, never to be seen again. does anyone know if we should assume she is dead or just an alive citizen that he moved on from?

11/26/2012 8:22:46 PM

i think she's the equivalent of like his press secretary, she announces town events and such

they did focus on her initially and i thought she'd see more screen but apparently not

11/26/2012 8:40:34 PM

so we shouldnt assume she is dead and he treats women as disposable?

11/26/2012 8:42:17 PM

^^^^Didn't Andrea pretty much tell Michone that she didn't really even know anything about her when they were arguing about whether or not to stay in Woodbury? That tells me that they didn't spend a whole lot of time talking while they were on the run.

Plus Andrea was sick for at least part of that time which meant she wouldn't have been able to go out to get supplies, etc. which would mean a good portion of their time together wasn't right by each other's side. That's not even taking into account time spent standing guard while the other slept.

11/26/2012 9:00:26 PM

Gov has to keep a line of ho's.. gotta work on getting the population up

[Edited on November 26, 2012 at 9:20 PM. Reason : n]

11/26/2012 9:19:47 PM

Yes, Andrea told Michonne that she knows nothing about her. Michonne is obviously a warrior who doesn't let emotions like friendliness and trust get in her way of surviving, and we don't know what she was in her previous life. And she'd just been hunted, attacked by walkers, got guts spilled on her, shot in the thigh, walked at least a few miles to the prison, attacked by walkers again, passed-out, almost eaten, and woke up in a prison surrounded by rick, oscar, darryl, w/o her sword... of course she was scared, disoriented, and untrusting.

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"the governor was earlier seen w/ a naked woman in his bed"

i think that was the same chick that andrea and michonne walked and talked with on the sidewalk in the first Woodbury episode. andrea mentioned the walker hanging from a tree like an ornament, and the gov's ho said she wouldn't defend their actions, but those men were protecting the town and need to blow off steam.

[Edited on November 26, 2012 at 9:40 PM. Reason : ]

11/26/2012 9:39:10 PM

That had to be a body double for Andrea during her dressing scene.

11/27/2012 12:25:56 AM

Just got caught up on episode 7, whew, that was an exciting episode. The pace of this season is pretty incredible compared with the last. Excited to see how everything plays out from here.

[Edited on November 27, 2012 at 12:34 AM. Reason : ]

11/27/2012 12:34:12 AM

I want to see a KFC fresh is better zombie poster

11/27/2012 6:58:20 AM

^^^I remember commenting to my girlfriend, "What impractical underwear for an apocalypse." If I were a woman, I'd be in sports bra and granny panties by day three.

11/27/2012 7:46:33 AM

11/27/2012 8:23:26 AM

11/27/2012 9:37:26 AM

Mmm Shay Laren

[Edited on November 27, 2012 at 10:00 AM. Reason : U]

11/27/2012 9:59:15 AM

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"That had to be a body double for Andrea during her dressing scene."

I'm sure it was her. She looked decent in her leather pants in Silent Hill, but her butch haircut kinda took away from it.

11/27/2012 10:02:09 AM

11/27/2012 11:25:43 AM

11/27/2012 6:43:38 PM

what is that in mid-air below her sword?

11/27/2012 7:23:17 PM

probably the stand the fake head was sitting on

11/27/2012 7:31:55 PM

^^i wondered that as well

11/27/2012 7:37:02 PM

Carl with the photo bomb!

11/27/2012 10:09:42 PM

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"I like that that from Michonne's perspective there is initially little difference between Rick and The governor; because she's a hard ass and makes life tougher than it has to be"

ftfy

"Hey guys.. I brought food for your baby.. and I know Andrea... Can you let me in, please?" Nah, too easy. I won't tell them that I know Andrea. I won't freely tell them about their people who were taken. I have something to gain from all of that.... oh wait.

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"I get that it will probably make for a great dramatic moment next week when the group unexpectedly re-unites with Andrea, but yet again the writers are going for drama over anything even remotely resembling common sense. It's getting old. "

Yeah, the overly forced drama at times and Ms. "I'm sooo tough" Michonne are both getting old in my opinion. She is not mysterious or "cool", she's just someone who makes things harder than they need to be.

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"Plus Andrea was sick for at least part of that time which meant she wouldn't have been able to go out to get supplies, etc. which would mean a good portion of their time together wasn't right by each other's side. That's not even taking into account time spent standing guard while the other slept."

No offense, but I think you're underestimating the amount of hours in 7-8 months time and over-estimating how long a flu lasts, how long people sleep, how long supply gathering takes, and the number of new topics to discuss in a zombie apocalypse.

11/28/2012 1:36:04 AM

11/28/2012 3:13:56 AM

The phone thing was super annoying. It was annoying in the comics too though...


Carl is easily the best character this season. Finally.

11/28/2012 7:32:27 AM

^^^I think you're forgetting that it's the fucking ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE, there are dead people walking all around the earth trying to kill you, there are survivors killing other survivors on the reg, you see people die every single day. It's going to affect people differently. Some are going to go crazy and give-up. Some are going to go crazy and do anything to survive. Michonne's actions are totally believable.

11/28/2012 9:31:45 AM

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"Laurie Holden ?@Laurie_Holden And yes, that was my ass. "

11/28/2012 10:51:38 AM

where are you guys getting 7-8 months from?

11/28/2012 11:12:06 AM

the pregnancy timing I believe

11/28/2012 11:35:27 AM

Also, at the start of this season the 8 month time frame was mentioned in dialouge a few times, iirc.

11/28/2012 11:43:20 AM

How is the drama forced?

Michonne's survival strategy seems to be "don't trust anyone, avoid anyone remotely dangerous". She doesn't know anything about Andrea, and that friendship seemed to have started AND ended on a whim. She's pretty bad at social interaction. She acts like a cornered animal whenever someone has her at a disadvantage. In that situation, I don't expect her to be in a rush to make friends with anyone. Plus, we're not entirely certain what her reasons are for approaching Rick's group.

11/28/2012 12:04:42 PM

yeah, i don't think some people take i into account that there are millions of dead people roaming the earth, trying to eat you, and thousands of living ones who will kill you too. it'd be pretty dramatic. you'd have be pretty tough if you wanted to survive. Michonne has done a good job of surviving so far, she's not just going to roll into the prison and be like "Hey, me and Andrea have been hanging for months, I feel like I already know you good buddy!" No, she's going to keep her emotions close to her vest and feel-out the new group before she let's her guard down. That's what's gotten her this far, that's what she'll keep doing.

[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 12:30 PM. Reason : ]

11/28/2012 12:27:27 PM

Living people are probably more dangerous than walkers at this point too

11/28/2012 1:21:07 PM

By the nature of the medium, the drama is innately forced... this isn't a reality show or documentary...

11/28/2012 1:21:55 PM

^But, let the characters do reasonably believable things given the situation. When they ditch realistic actions for ones that are done only to set up drama it's really distracting.

And I know it's a show about zombies taking over, I can suspend my disbelief for that but don't make me push it just for the sake of drama.

11/28/2012 3:03:59 PM

I think the show is about very realistic. There have been a hadnful of parts that were a little silly, but for the most part, i think the characters are acting exactly how they would in a real-life zombie apocalypse. i think michonne's actions are totally believable for a person like her surviving in the zombie apocalypse.

it's one reason i like the show so much. I was a big zombie-movie fan long before this show came out, but most are pretty unrealistic. This show is very realistic, and almost everything that is occurring has a plausible explanation.

11/28/2012 3:55:48 PM

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"^^^I think you're forgetting that it's the fucking ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE, there are dead people walking all around the earth trying to kill you, there are survivors killing other survivors on the reg, you see people die every single day. It's going to affect people differently. Some are going to go crazy and give-up. Some are going to go crazy and do anything to survive. Michonne's actions are totally believable."

Michonne's actions ARE believable. They're actually believable of someone who is in our actual, current society. The problem (as far as me liking her character) is that she doesn't come across as being reasonable most of the time. She is a hardass who makes things tougher than they have to be. I don't like people who do that sort of thing. And so far, she's been pretty one dimensional. They need to develop her character further. Show her being reasonable in situations that call for reason over toughness... Like when you know a chick that was in tight with the group of people you're talking too. When you went to them for help. When you know that their people were kidnapped... when you're in that situation, it's extremely reasonable to simply tell them as much.

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"Michonne's survival strategy seems to be "don't trust anyone, avoid anyone remotely dangerous". She doesn't know anything about Andrea, and that friendship seemed to have started AND ended on a whim. She's pretty bad at social interaction. She acts like a cornered animal whenever someone has her at a disadvantage. In that situation, I don't expect her to be in a rush to make friends with anyone. Plus, we're not entirely certain what her reasons are for approaching Rick's group."

Pretty bad at social interaction? Like a cornered dog? More like poorly socialized dog imo. The only time she's been "cornered" is when Merle and the guys were chasing her.

To say that she doesn't know anything about Andrea is absurd. She was on the road with her for something like 8 months. She took care of her when she was sick. She tried to get her to leave Woodberry with her... she clearly cares for her. It's much safer to assume that she knows something about Andrea based on the amount of time they've spent together than to assume she doesn't know anything about Andrea.

11/28/2012 5:47:38 PM

Michonne comes across as a severely independent, zombie apocalypse loner. If she were reasonable, like Andrea, she probably would have stayed at the Woodberry.

11/28/2012 6:50:46 PM