starts on page 785 of emails.

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"• At both Duke and NCSU, head FB coach comes to all tutor/mentor trainings; not just to thank them, but actually engages in brainstorming sessions. "

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"What is happening at NC State: • BIG MESSAGE: All parties have bought into the program. This mandate comes from the top down- Provost, Athletic Director, Director, counselors, mentors/tutors. One message, one set of standards, one response. Everyone has to be strong and stick to their guns; no negotiation. Final responsibility is put back on the coach to manage his student- "you recruited him, you get him to follow our rules. If not, you will deal with him on your own.""

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"Their system is not perfect and it is not smooth - the students still regularly pitch a fit, but the staff never backs down or compromises. However, this new system has greatly reduced the high-maintenance students to a few. "

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"With all academically at-risk students (based upon high school or college performance), have them sign a contract similar to bounceback that clearly states the radical consequences possible. NCSU does this in a meeting with the student, coach, academic advisor, Robert & Blanchard. "

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"Approach other schools such as NCCU and look at their Dept of Ed or Dept of Counseling- NCSU now has a track within academic advising for athletics. "

[Edited on November 19, 2014 at 4:01 PM. Reason : ]

11/19/2014 3:49:52 PM

missed that it was in the emails. god that makes it even better.

[Edited on November 19, 2014 at 3:50 PM. Reason : ^ thanks!]

11/19/2014 3:49:59 PM

OMG! That is awesome. I have never seen it mentioned that that was included in the report. Now when UNC-CH fans claim that it happens everywhere, we can just show that it doesn't, and the WR documents that!

11/19/2014 4:19:24 PM

"Kym says that Roy Williams does this?"

11/19/2014 4:27:58 PM

hahahah that is hilarious

11/19/2014 4:28:36 PM

We have part time class checkers monitoring attendance of every student athlete at NC State.

[Edited on November 19, 2014 at 4:47 PM. Reason : ]

11/19/2014 4:47:40 PM

I like this one better:



http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/14443902/img/14443902.jpg

and here ya go:

11/19/2014 4:49:03 PM

At Puke and State, you have coaches come in and thank the tutors.

While at UNC, Roy has never even spoken to Willingham

11/19/2014 4:51:35 PM

plausible deniability

11/19/2014 4:53:23 PM

^3

But I read on Inside Carolina that this type of shit with athletes goes on everywhere and UNC just happened to be the school that got caught.

11/19/2014 4:56:08 PM

I like how they used my asterisks pic as the base picture

11/19/2014 5:21:31 PM

That is me making it, lol.

11/19/2014 5:27:51 PM

11/19/2014 5:32:31 PM

a little webrun today:

twitter embed not working, but this has some great responses: NCAA: Weber St math instructor assists with academic dishonesty. She completed coursework for 5 football players. WSU will lose 9 scholshps
https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/535116255678574593


and mr. forde has brought this up every chance he gets.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/forde-yard-dash-081317318-ncaaf.html

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"North Carolina (4). The season started with four defensive players suspended for a game after a training-camp altercation with a reserve wide receiver. But even after those players returned, the Tar Heels haven’t stopped a soul. They’ve surrendered at least 27 points in every game, and 50 in three different games – including the humiliating 70-point bomb dropped on them by East Carolina. Thus for the 10th consecutive season, North Carolina will not play in the ACC championship game, in a season when many thought it was possible. And it seems like there was one other embarrassing development that slips The Dash’s mind – oh yeah, the small matter of the 18-year academic scandal that enveloped more than 1,000 North Carolina athletes, including a ton of football players. Nice autumn in Chapel Hill."

11/19/2014 6:00:58 PM

Just read that ^ on fb. If 5 players are worth 9 scholarships, unc should lose at least a few hundred. Shut down all athletics for a few years.

http://www.si.com/college-football/2014/11/19/weber-state-scholarship-reduction-ncaa-math-professor

[Edited on November 19, 2014 at 8:29 PM. Reason : Link I read]

11/19/2014 8:29:01 PM

Typical DSPN:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/11909078/larry-brown-worried-unc-academic-scandal

11/20/2014 2:09:03 PM

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"Just read that ^ on fb. If 5 players are worth 9 scholarships, unc should lose at least a few hundred. Shut down all athletics for a few years."

The NCAA apply punishments uniformly? lol

How many did they lose from their 9 major violations? Like five per year for three years or something? I doubt the punishment will be scaled to match UNC's level of cheating. Like you say, they'd have to shut things down for a few years, or have a team composed primarily of walk-ons... and they'd still probably end up winning the coastal division.

[Edited on November 20, 2014 at 2:27 PM. Reason : -]

11/20/2014 2:25:35 PM

^^ SMU Coach:

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""My daughter took some of those classes," Brown said. "If you look around, there's not a school in the country that doesn't have classes like that. How many kids are taking online classes these days? That's not an excuse. I'm just saying there are classes like that that are legitimate.""

Can someone please tell me classes at State I can take that require me to do at worst 1-2 assignments (that I can have written for me) and at best, absolutely nothing.





[Edited on November 20, 2014 at 2:31 PM. Reason : ^^]

11/20/2014 2:29:01 PM

Lol, now they're comparing online classes to UNC's paper classes?

11/20/2014 2:32:45 PM

NCAA is probably going to release their slap on the wrist at the same time as the Ferguson decision.

11/20/2014 2:39:20 PM

If they give a slap on the wrist for this, say goodbye to the NCAA.

11/20/2014 3:12:48 PM

If somebody's honestly comparing this to online classes, I'm guessing they've not followed this story at all. Or they're just ignorant.

11/20/2014 3:28:36 PM

Or he's a homer that played and coached at the school.

11/20/2014 3:34:28 PM

He's like 70, he doesn't know what online is

11/20/2014 3:48:13 PM

And has been giving the talking points from Roy himself.

[x] Classes were easy, but not fake
[x] Classes are available at every school
[x] Roy did his best to steer kids in right direction
[ ] Classes weren't just for athletes
[ ] UNC corrected this problem (that wasn't really a problem) years ago
[x] Such a prestigious school shouldn't be tarnished by such a minor issue

He almost hit them all.

11/20/2014 3:52:22 PM

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"How many kids are taking online classes these days? That's not an excuse. I'm just saying there are classes like that that are legitimate."

The one online class I took at state [CHASS course] required just as much, if not more, work than many of my engineering courses. It was no fucking joke. I didn't think I could keep up. So yeh... online class !=fake or easy class

[Edited on November 21, 2014 at 9:01 AM. Reason : .]

11/21/2014 9:01:12 AM

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"He's like 70, he doesn't know what online is"

I think Brown might be 80. He still gets excited about color TVs.

11/21/2014 9:11:31 AM

Yeah I hated the one online class I took. A ton of webassigns and for our 3 or 4 exams we had to got to Centennial to take them. it sucked.

11/21/2014 9:21:37 AM

So it's Friday. Wonder if We are going to hear anything about that SACS Letter that was sent a week ago?

11/21/2014 10:37:25 AM

yes. online classes blow. especially ones with video lectures you are supposed to watch. fuck that shit. i just fell asleep. like a real class.

11/21/2014 10:50:59 AM

yep,always took me 2.5 hours to complete a 1 hour lecture online.

11/21/2014 10:55:55 AM

i like the videos that let you adjust the playback speed, 1.5x lectures FTW

i had some easy online classes, but they still required non-plagiarized work

11/21/2014 11:08:49 AM

http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/2014/10/24/7061523/former-fsu-coach-pat-kennedy-points-a-finger-at-dean-smith-in-unc

11/21/2014 11:31:33 AM

shocking

11/21/2014 12:15:23 PM

Quote :

"i had some easy online classes, but they still required non-plagiarized work"

11/21/2014 12:28:55 PM

^^^Dang. There's some pretty harsh quotes in there

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"Pat Kennedy said "Gary Williams will tell you this, most of the coaches in the ACC felt that Carolina was a fraud in that they walked around like they were Stanford or Vanderbilt or Northwestern, but they weren't, they were not even Duke. They took the most exceptions the last few years of Dean Smith's career they took the most exceptions of any school in the ACC. Meaning kids that would not normally get accepted into the university, that were accepted to the university to play sports. I remember one year at Carolina they had five exceptions starting on their men's basketball team. So they were taking guys with very low level qualifications and then they would keep them eligible. By putting them in these courses. So if a guy was close to not being eligible and his GPA was a 1.8 he would then take a couple of these courses and his GPA would be up to 2.4 and then everybody took a deep breath and they did it again""

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""And the thing about the coaches not knowing about it in football it's possible because the coaches at different positions would know about it, but it may not get to the head coach. But in basketball the head coach would know about it because he would have to approve dropping classes and getting into another class to stay eligible for graduation." "Coaches and athletic directors, you go to NCAA meetings and there is a lot of squabbling and coaches and ADs start pointing fingers. When I first got to the ACC I had a problem with a few coaches and a few of the other guys said 'well do you really want to be the guy to turn Dean Smith in?' and you know as a young coach I said 'I guess not' and as young coach you don't want to turn in a Nick Saban.""

As far as the role a coach plays in a players' academics, I'd say he's pretty credible.

11/21/2014 12:52:01 PM

love it.

11/21/2014 12:59:31 PM

Well, Friday scandal news is out. Weinstein cost the school 3.1 million.

11/21/2014 2:58:00 PM

Here's the SACS' "stern" warning letter lulz

http://oira.unc.edu/files/2014/11/UNC-Chapel-Hill.pdf

11/21/2014 3:06:38 PM

^^That's just the law bill, nevermind all the time and effort that could have been put to better uses.

11/21/2014 3:11:32 PM

tl;dr. looks 'meh' to me.

11/21/2014 3:11:42 PM

I dunno, seems pretty obvious they have lotsa 'splainin to do...

11/21/2014 4:32:26 PM

yeah, that doesn't seem quite meh to me. deadline of jan 7, mark your calendars.

11/21/2014 5:10:12 PM

All that letter does is request them to give evidence they have met the requirements requested in the document, there is no punishment listed yet.

11/21/2014 6:53:14 PM

^That's the impression I got as well.

Or at least I didn't get the impression that UNC would really be unable to satisfy them in January.

[Edited on November 21, 2014 at 7:07 PM. Reason : f]

11/21/2014 7:06:57 PM

Is there a statue of limitations on any of this?

11/21/2014 7:24:42 PM

A little over a month to fix all that's listed? Seems like a lot to sweep under the rug to me.

11/21/2014 7:59:08 PM

WE'RE GONNA NEED A BIGGER RUG

11/21/2014 8:09:40 PM

The one that was pretty bad was the very first "request" regarding integrity. In essence, it said "why did multiple employees lie to us in our previous review. Please explain."

11/22/2014 12:17:24 AM

^ lol

PLZ GIVE US EXPLAINZ

11/22/2014 3:26:52 AM