fuck ecu

10/17/2010 1:05:57 PM

I like how ecu makes such a big deal over this game. For the most part ncsu series not give a shit.btw this is funny shit



Ecu is modernizing their logo to catch up to modern times. The old paste is getting replaced by a somali pirate.

[Edited on October 17, 2010 at 1:22 PM. Reason : L]

10/17/2010 1:21:20 PM

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"WOW. Lots of pissin' and moanin' itt. The whole "we shouldn't play them! There's nothing in it for us!!" sentiment is absurd. Reminds me of Amato complaining about Akron after we lost to them. You guys really should man up. If UNC were whining like this after a game, y'all would call them out on it (and rightfully so). Please stop it. Thanks."

10/17/2010 1:23:53 PM

that pirate picture is as old as when pirates were in the news

10/17/2010 1:26:09 PM

fuck this game

10/17/2010 1:29:00 PM

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"Elon, WSSU, A&T, NCCU, Guilford has a team right? And Charlotte will soon. Hell, let's leave the ACC and schedule 12 1-AA teams. Wouldn't want to play a team with the slightest bit of talent. We might lose!"

Pretty sure he was talking about ECU playing those teams. We can play some a non BCS school that doesn't gameplan all year for us and won't tear down our goddamn goal posts. Sounds like a plan to me.

10/17/2010 2:50:08 PM

one thing i noticed was that ECU has superb blocking

10/17/2010 2:56:42 PM

I hated the loss! But regardless I still had fun in greenville. When wearing my red around after the game I did get taunted, but what did I expect? ECU is a place I could have never graduated from because its too darn fun!

10/17/2010 3:38:27 PM

only thing that i got out of attending the game yesterday is that damn "all i do is win" song stuck in my damn head

10/17/2010 5:04:33 PM

I like how there were about 20 posts telling us to MAN UP or GET SOME BALLS in response to the stop playing ECU posts. Not a single logical, thought out reason to continue playing them.

You guys can compete for some mythical fan championship where acting tough counts all you want. I don't care about that. We can get called out for being bitches or acting like UNC. Doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is putting our sports programs in the best positions to succeed. This is no different than manipulating the RPI in basketball (which we don't do either, I'm sure we're going to play a bunch of 300+ RPI teams again this year that actually hurt us when we win).

10/17/2010 5:10:19 PM

^^i still can't get that out of my head.

^^^Greenville is a pisshole bro. The reason you would have never graduated from there is the high chance you would have been shot. FUCK GREENVILLE place is a shitstain

10/17/2010 5:27:17 PM

^^ VT and WV have had recurring games with ECU over the last decade. Both have come to Greenville multiple times. South Carolina starts a series with them next year. All 3 of those programs are currently more prominent than State's. The notion that State is "above" scheduling ECU is borderline retarded.

10/17/2010 6:24:09 PM

^ I agree.

Hell, we made the return trip to UCF this year after they came to Raleigh in TOB's first season. I don't remember anyone saying the we shouldn't have played them. They're in the same conference...only difference is location.

10/17/2010 6:28:21 PM

^These argument needs to die. Ya'll are not getting the point. We don't think we are "above" ecu. We are saying that we can play an equal team that doesn't think that we are their rival. Same benefit with less down side.

10/17/2010 6:37:35 PM

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"he notion that State is "above" scheduling ECU is borderline retarded. "

haha that made me laugh outloud, your word choice filled me with mirth. i mimic your sentiment. well played


^ you know we could always just ... like ... i dunno ... not lose? then we wouldnt have to worry about it

[Edited on October 17, 2010 at 6:45 PM. Reason : f]

10/17/2010 6:41:41 PM

^You're right. We should be undefeated every season. Have you contacted Deb Yow about that? Tom needs to know that we should win every game.

10/17/2010 6:48:24 PM

This game is good for college football in the area. I was at both games and it was an electric atmosphere at ECU yesterday and it was great at State in 2008. Most of the games are competitive and fun to be a part of (last 2 have gone to OT). The regional rivalries make college football distinct from the NFL and why it's a great sport. Pulling the "we shouldn't schedule them" card screams of sour grapes. No, maybe it doesn't help State's national profile, but neither do home games against Murray State or Gardner-Webb a la 2009. You can't schedule top 25 teams every game, nor would you want to.

[Edited on October 17, 2010 at 6:55 PM. Reason : asdf]

10/17/2010 6:52:17 PM

^^ so let me see if I follow you - rather than play ECU, we should schedule a program of similar stature as ECU that doesn't happen to view us as a rival (and thus maybe wouldn't be as excited/motivated for the game)...??? that's asinine. really. i'm pretty sure no one associated with the football program would agree with your logic, because they likely have testosterone and don't want to be a bunch of nancies scared to play a program like ECU.

Oh, and since someone said that no one has given reasons TO play ECU, here are mine 1) they're an in-state D1 team, so natural fit to play us, 2) high level of interaction between the schools' alumni bases, creating excitement for the game and thus better TV ratings and ticket sales, and 3) we should beat them most years. But even if 3 weren't the case, I'd still be up for playing them. Not necessarily every single year, but regularly. I'm much more interested in buying tickets to see us vs. ECU than us vs. UCF, So. Fla, etc.

[Edited on October 17, 2010 at 6:56 PM. Reason : ^ agree with you!]

10/17/2010 6:55:23 PM

I would rather play ECU than UCF. I don't think we should play them every single year...but with 4 OOC games each season, I don't see why we can't play them every once in a while.

I would be much more interested in a NCSU/ECU on the schedule than if we played, say, Tulsa or some other C-USA opponent.

[Edited on October 17, 2010 at 7:10 PM. Reason : tulsa]

10/17/2010 7:08:20 PM

football has become too political.

just play who is on your schedule and deal with it. treat every game the exact same.
you are trying to win every game right? Then why approach any game differently. Give it your all or get off the field.

10/17/2010 7:19:30 PM

prb185: Ok, you don't get this from an NC State fan's perspective.

Playing ECU is only good for ECU, because it raises the Pirates' profile in the rest of the state. It does nothing for NC State's profile, win or lose. Playing an equivalent team to ECU in another part of the country gives NCSU better recruiting opportunities and more attempts to expand fanbase interest, whereas travelling to Greenville does nothing for recruiting or the fanbase.

Playing Murray State and Gardner-Webb actually do provide something for NCSU, they provide a tune-up and home-game revenue. Certainly there's no reason to play them in Week 7, but that's why we play them in Weeks 1 or 2.

There is no positive for NCSU to ever play against ECU. Now, there is upside for ECU, as it gives their fanbase something to get more excited about outside of their normal C-USA rivalries. It also raises ECU's in-state recruiting profile every time ECU beats NCSU.

At best, it's a one-sided "rivalry" and in reality it's being forced to play with your much younger brother on his terms in front of all your friends so they can mock you later.

10/17/2010 7:32:43 PM

^ I'm an NC State fan, that is absolutely NOT my perspective. Oh well, we can all agree to disagree on this one. Some alums view ECU is a "little brother" that we shouldn't associate with, others of us see them as a fellow public NC university that it's ok to compete against in sports on a regular basis.

Oh, and the argument for playing teams like UCF or other C-USA schools rather than ECU because they'll expand our "exposure and recruiting base" - that's a bit of a stretch. If anything, it makes more sense to play ECU because the travel is MUCH cheaper than any other potential OOC road games.

[Edited on October 17, 2010 at 7:56 PM. Reason : .]

10/17/2010 7:53:09 PM

Finally some actual debate instead of a bunch of huff and puff

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"^^ VT and WV have had recurring games with ECU over the last decade. Both have come to Greenville multiple times. South Carolina starts a series with them next year. All 3 of those programs are currently more prominent than State's. The notion that State is "above" scheduling ECU is borderline retarded."

It's not about being above scheduling them. In fact it's quite the opposite. We're TOO CLOSE to them. The series record is now 16-11 us and I think it's even worse recently. I hear all this stuff about how we should just beat them every time and that's great but the fact is we aren't that good. VT has not played them in Greenville from what I remember. I don't know about WV, but I do know that VT lost the one game played in Charlotte and won the two they played in Blacksburg. The relationship between those programs and ECU isn't the same as ours and ECU's btw.

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"This game is good for college football in the area. I was at both games and it was an electric atmosphere at ECU yesterday and it was great at State in 2008. Most of the games are competitive and fun to be a part of (last 2 have gone to OT). The regional rivalries make college football distinct from the NFL and why it's a great sport. Pulling the "we shouldn't schedule them" card screams of sour grapes. No, maybe it doesn't help State's national profile, but neither do home games against Murray State or Gardner-Webb a la 2009. You can't schedule top 25 teams every game, nor would you want to."

Fair enough, and this is the best "keep the series" post I've seen yet. My response is that we could replace the regional rivalry with another that would benefit us more, such as South Carolina. Those games were intense (even if they were a bit poor due to being the first game of the year), the fanbases are equally passionate, SoCar being in the ACC in the past and their departure from it still has a lot of hurt feeling on both sides and...oh yea, both games were on ESPN

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"Oh, and since someone said that no one has given reasons TO play ECU, here are mine 1) they're an in-state D1 team, so natural fit to play us, 2) high level of interaction between the schools' alumni bases, creating excitement for the game and thus better TV ratings and ticket sales, and 3) we should beat them most years. But even if 3 weren't the case, I'd still be up for playing them. Not necessarily every single year, but regularly. I'm much more interested in buying tickets to see us vs. ECU than us vs. UCF, So. Fla, etc."

I don't have a huge problem with playing them every once in a while. Maybe 2 or 3 times a decade like we would any other team in the area. I just don't think having it as a regular series which has festered into a rivalry of any sort benefits us. UCF/USF aren't really great games either, especially if we have to play home and homes with them. But I can at least see the argument if we're trying to get on TV in the area of places we recruit, i.e. I like the Cincinnati game because TOB tries to get players from there. UCF/USF might've made more sense with Chuck

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"football has become too political. just play who is on your schedule and deal with it. treat every game the exact same. you are trying to win every game right? Then why approach any game differently. Give it your all or get off the field."

Maybe you're right that it's too political but you have to deal with the reality of your environment to take advantage of it.

10/17/2010 8:03:03 PM

I'd rather have a rivalry with South Carolina then ECU. I just have a natural hate for them that's perfect.

10/17/2010 8:23:19 PM

I, too, would prefer a rivalry game with So Car than ECU. If for no other reason than more national exposure...So Car, while not a huge national power, does have good name recognition and is a good program.

I don't mind playing ECU every once in a while...I don't want to play them every year, just because I think there are other opportunities out there and we shouldn't be tied down with one OOC opponent that stays the same every year.

10/17/2010 8:32:06 PM

The sad part is the real rivalry would be state and unc getting better and better in football. If the bomb does get dropped on chapel hill (which I hope it does) then we might need to find another team. I'll still enjoy destroying them.

10/17/2010 9:16:05 PM

conversation I had with some of the drunk ecu students sitting in front of me in between the flicking off's and fuck state.

Them: Do you go to State?
Me: Yes, I do.
Them: O cool. We did not get into state so we came to ecu instead.
Them: What year are you?
Me: A sophomore.
Them: What is your major?
Me:Biology
Them: Wow. That sounds really hard.

10/17/2010 9:18:47 PM

The players didn't seem to care/want to play ECU so why should the fans want the series renewed?

10/17/2010 9:29:58 PM

domonique davis said in the postgame that students told him: "we don't care how many games you win as long as you beat NCState"

10/17/2010 9:35:24 PM

I'm still wondering why they aren't hanging their heads in shame due to the fact 10 rows of bleachers collapsed during the game....

10/17/2010 9:38:57 PM

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" I hear all this stuff about how we should just beat them every time and that's great but the fact is we aren't that good."

Which is why we shouldn't be acting like we're entitled to not play ECU.

For fucks sake, we aren't an elite program, and acting like it isn't going to make it so. Be more pissed off that this type of shit is what BC fans who were glad to see ToB and company go warned us about. WTF losses and terrible offensive play calling.

The VT game and this game has convinced me that Bible doesn't have a clue about situational play calling.

10/17/2010 9:57:07 PM

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"I'd rather have a rivalry with South Carolina then ECU. I just have a natural hate for them that's perfect."

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"I, too, would prefer a rivalry game with So Car than ECU. If for no other reason than more national exposure...So Car, while not a huge national power, does have good name recognition and is a good program."

that would be Clemson..... and even if that wasn't the case, it would make more sense that UNC was their rival (at least during football season) w/ the whole "who is the real Carolina" thing goin on.

the ECU/NCSU rivalry isn't exactly Michigan/Ohio State or Florida/FSU.... hell it aint even Washington/Washington St. We fight over a fucking barrel that nobody outside of this state has heard of. My point is our football rivalry is small potatoes as far as national relevance but it works for us. players get up for it.... puts butts in the stands...creates excitement in the state. I'm sure most of you have a buddy or co-worker that went to school at ECU... i think it's great for in-state recruiting too. Why discontinue the series? So you can play Gardner Webb or Middle Tennessee? That won't move your program in the right direction. I like that you guys went to Ohio State but guess what?....they don't want you back now. They scheduled future dates with the likes of Tennessee, Va Tech, & Oklahoma. ECU is a good "once in a while" matchup for NC State. i just don't get those of you that say otherwise unless you're just bitter

10/17/2010 10:02:04 PM

^Oh I completely agree with you in the fact that we should not discontinue the series. When I mentioned So Car being a rival, I was just saying that, yes, a team with more national respect/recognition would probably be better for us when it comes to national exposure...but if you keep reading my post you'll see I am in favor of playing ECU every once in a while.

10/17/2010 10:08:32 PM

it's difficult for me to call them a rival because i tend to pull for them in other games

10/17/2010 10:11:15 PM

go check out SoCar's schedules this decade. even with clemson as their last game of the year theyve still played another acc team most years. im guessing they wouldnt want us every year but if we get them 4 or 5 out of every 10 that'd be great

again, no problem playing you guys every now and then. It just doesnt do it for me nearly every year and really doesn't do it for our program. I actually dont know that many people from ECU. The ones that went there from my high school I didn't keep up with and the number that went there vs App, UNCG etc was small

[Edited on October 17, 2010 at 10:31 PM. Reason : ]

10/17/2010 10:13:29 PM

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"We fight over a fucking barrel that nobody outside of this state Greenville has heard of. "

Fixed.
Damn lid isnt even attached either...I guess thats so you can put your weed in it.

10/17/2010 10:13:42 PM

The only State people who knew about the barrel had walked into the SG office within the past couple years. I saw it just sitting up against a wall in there one day. Before then, I had no idea we had a traveling trophy against ECU.

10/17/2010 10:16:52 PM

some more bullshit here... http://www.paintitpurple.net/showthread.php?897-End-of-Game-Celebration-Recording-Enjoy!-ECU-vs-NCSU http://www.paintitpurple.net/showthread.php?883-Ron-Cherry-is-the-ref

10/17/2010 10:33:40 PM

It sucks, but oh well, the ACC games really mater and we can still get to the championship game, FSU looked human against BC...doubt we will win out but at least the sky is not falling....that will happen if we loose any of our remaining games.

10/17/2010 10:38:19 PM

LOL. We can't beat ECU, but it's not worth playing them since we are so much better than them and it makes us look bad when we lose? Who the fuck invented this story?

Let's just schedule Alabama, Boise State, Oklahoma and Ohio State every year since we deserve it. This way when we get blown out it won't be so bad, since we weren't supposed to win in the first place.


And the political argument is even more ridiculous. Beat the fucking team on your schedule. End of story.

10/17/2010 10:44:00 PM

There were 2 old timers directly behind me talkin Xs and Os... after a missed call the state fan shook his head and said "Ron Cherry giveth...& Ron Cherry taketh away" I about choked on my nachos

10/17/2010 10:44:02 PM

We won in 08 and it was exciting. We beat a ranked team. We celebrated like we do all wins. They win and decide that they should come paint our fucking tunnel. Completely even rivalry. Fuck this "we have to play them" bull shit. Let them play WSU and App.

^^Completely agree. We should go undefeated every year.

[Edited on October 17, 2010 at 11:32 PM. Reason : .]

10/17/2010 11:30:33 PM

I dont mind us playing ECU as long as its like once every 3 or 4 years.

Back in 2008 when ECU was ranked 15th in all the polls I was looking forward to seeing them come to Carter Finley so we could bring them back down to earth and we did.

they got us back this past wknd, and now I dont want to see them for another 3 or 4 years, however while at the Sports-bar watching the game, half the place was in Purple/gold and the otehr half of the sports bar was in Red/white9and this bar was located in Chapel hill), and the way all of us were acting b4, during and after the game, it sure as hell has developed into a rivalry, no matter what anyone says!

Now I was looking at our schedule for 2011, and we have like South Alabama...and Liberty on are god-damn schedule...REALLY.....REALLY???? id take ECU back on our schedule any God-damn day of the week before these two shit schools!!?? What the fuck was Lee Fowler thinking!!??? So glad his dumb ass is gone!

10/18/2010 12:05:47 AM

^Yeah Liberty sucks, wouldn't mind a little exposure to Alabama recruiting tho. Seem to remember a good quarterback/receiver duo coming from down there.

10/18/2010 12:45:03 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtdyUkSGmAw



so original.

10/18/2010 12:45:21 AM

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" The kind of thinking behind building a championship caliber program. That is what this ECU Pirate program is striving to become. "

Champs of what, C-USA? How much can that possibly take?

10/18/2010 12:46:35 AM

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" i think it's great for in-state recruiting too. "

how so? any recruit that would come to NCSU based on whether or not we beat ECU is functionally retarded and probably won't make it past his first year anyway. we've already got the upper hand on them recruiting.

and VT and WVs games with ECU aren't a valid comparison. neither of those schools receive the exposure in north carolina we do. you want a valid comparison, see how eager the hokies are to go play james madison in their house, or WV is to go to marshall.

i just went and looked this shit up... michigan and michigan state combined have played central, east, and west michigan 35 times compared to the 27 we've played against 1 school. the mountaineers that were mentioned told the thundering herd to go to hell if they thought they were going to get a home and home out of them. the only reason there's a series now is because of political pressure from the governor. ohio state? two against akron, six against cincy, three against miami (oh), and two against toledo. some kind of bullshit rolling invite that sees one of the teams a year come to the horseshoe. florida (lol). and the day VT plays at JMU is the day i'll be back on board for playing ecu much less visiting it.

10/18/2010 1:32:32 AM

A good friend of mine who goes to ECU sent me this video from the the post game atmosphere in Dowdy Ficklen:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XuXk1LXQXE&feature=player_embedded


As much as I hate to say it, Ive been to State games in every ACC stadium except for BC, and as much as watching this video pisses me off-I would rate their stadium atmosphere right behind

FSU(1) Clemson(2) State(3) and then ECU(4), we may not like it but id def. call them a rival.
(dont think Ive ever seen so many elderly southern white folks trying to rock out to Ludicrous, hehe)


** We SOO better fucking beat FSU!!**

10/18/2010 2:43:36 AM

^If we were a non BCS school and we found an in state ACC school dumb enough to come into Carter Finley we would be crazy too.

Hopefully we wouldn't copy Auburn in the celebration tho

10/18/2010 2:50:20 AM

^^More like (1)FSU, (2)Clemson, (3)Virginia Tech (4)Carter Finley

I've been to every ACC stadium except UVA, but i don't imagine theirs is up at the top

10/18/2010 6:43:50 AM