pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
bleh.
2nd for $720.
four hands whe heads up with middle pair and flush draws against obvious top pair that never improved is pretty much a receipe for disaster.
man, this streak is crazy.
(time to take the gf out for a very nice dinner) 12/2/2005 7:27:27 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
but when youre winning, theres no more of this
OMG ARE YOU PLAYING POKER AGAIN 12/2/2005 9:31:11 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
indeed. hahaha
We just got back from the dinner.
Went to prime only, got apps, drinks, and filet and lobster tails. $200 later, on the way home she says, "why dont you stop and get some beer, so you can drink beer and play poker when we get home."
FUCKIN RIGHT.
ahaha 12/2/2005 11:48:21 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
haha man everytime i come home my friends are putting together a 50 or 100 dollar buy in game
my friend said since my birthday is today he'd pay 50 of the 100 for tomorrow
i will pwn teh pokher n00bs tomorrow night 12/3/2005 2:22:16 AM |
CaelNCSU All American 7082 Posts user info edit post |
Up by about $250 in a 2/4 game so I decided to piss the nights winnings away chasing with A/K I was betting big and handn't played shit all night, but the guy is someone I should have known would stay in. I should have just folded when I didn't hit. He had 10s.
Fucking hell.
[Edited on December 3, 2005 at 3:32 AM. Reason : a] 12/3/2005 3:31:11 AM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why dont you stop and get some beer, so you can drink beer and play poker when we get home" |
on a side note, what do you guys do to stop a slide? i had a really nice run, but the past 3 days i've been on a big slide. some of it is me not playing great, some of it is just utter shit, and i mean im just trying to wait it out, but i'm ready for this downward swing to be over....anything you guys do specifically to try to get out of a slump? change games? drop down in limits? I can't win no matter what game, what style, or what structure i play, lol it is really sickening right now12/3/2005 3:19:22 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
i just stop playing for a little while, or if i'm having a bad string at one table, switching tables usually helps me get a few hands in a row 12/3/2005 3:24:21 PM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
i stop and read a poker book 12/3/2005 4:07:44 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
yea, i really want to take a couple days off, but the weekend nights are my favorite nights to play, so i guess i'll give it one more day and see what happens 12/3/2005 5:20:16 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
and the hot streak continues.
another final table.
made a final table in a 30+3 limit he tournament late last night finishing 3rd.
right now, chip lead at another final table 20+2 180 person sit n go.
woot.
its down to 4 handed.
well, no longer hcip lead after that elimination.
this is nuts.
my dec. goal was for 3 final tables. making 4 in two days has been crazy.
annnnd out in third.
had a mid pair, button looked to be on a steal, i pushed preflop, he had a higher pair. he flops set, gg.
not a bad $430.
[Edited on December 3, 2005 at 6:37 PM. Reason : bleh] 12/3/2005 6:29:58 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
God Pilgrim.. stop dominating, i see you are chip leader of another tourney on ps
I feel bad for the 3/10 vs AJ
[Edited on December 3, 2005 at 8:59 PM. Reason : er] 12/3/2005 8:51:00 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
ahaha you saw that?
that was ridiculous.
that was just a sat, i ended up building enouhg stack to sitout for a long time and just post into the seat.
the sat is for the 500k tommorow, so hopefully the streak will keep up.
a finalt table in that tournament would be a life changing event for me. 12/3/2005 11:16:49 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
ugh, i'm in one shitty slide right now. done nothing but lose since yesterday. guess its time to take my own advice 12/3/2005 11:48:23 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
damn, bubbled out of the 500k.
again.
meh.
490/3600 and getting railed on a three outer on the river isnt bad i guess.
one of these days, that tournament will be mine.
ahaha 12/4/2005 8:21:58 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha a guy at my table on pokerstars has tingz0r as his little picture
great story 12/5/2005 4:39:25 PM |
JonTurner All American 1899 Posts user info edit post |
All it takes is one of these to put a damper on an otherwise good day:
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 18019226) - Mon Dec 05 21:04:53 EST 2005 Table $35K Guaranteed(531073) Table 2 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button Total number of players : 8 Seat 1: tmay420 (4390) Seat 2: WN4LIFE (5628) Seat 3: den677 (3110) Seat 4: YANAIMH (6759) Seat 7: tzipp (3001) Seat 8: habs4ever (17097) Seat 9: PearlJammed (9395) Seat 10: baller6969 (3389) tzipp posts big blind (300) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to PearlJammed [ Ad, Kd ] habs4ever folds. PearlJammed raises (700) to 700 baller6969 folds. tmay420 folds. WN4LIFE folds. den677 folds. YANAIMH raises (6759) to 6759 YANAIMH is all-In. tzipp folds. PearlJammed: MOTHER FUCKER PearlJammed: you want to gamble??? PearlJammed calls (6059) Creating Main Pot with $13818 with YANAIMH ** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9c, Kh, Jc ] ** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ac ] ** Dealing River ** : [ 4c ] ** Summary ** Main Pot: 13818 | Board: [ 9c Kh Jc Ac 4c ] tmay420 balance 4390, didn't bet (folded) WN4LIFE balance 5628, didn't bet (folded) den677 balance 3110, didn't bet (folded) YANAIMH balance 13818, bet 6759, collected 13818, net +7059 [ Ah Kc ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ac,Kc,Jc,9c,4c ] hmichael balance 10861, sits out rsqb07 balance 8588, sits out tzipp balance 2701, lost 300 (folded) habs4ever balance 17097, didn't bet (folded) PearlJammed balance 2636, lost 6759 [ Ad Kd ] [ two pairs, aces and kings -- Ad,Ac,Kd,Kh,Jc ] baller6969 balance 3389, didn't bet (folded)
I had over $12k in chips in this (big $100 multi on party) just a few minutes before... was one of the chip leaders. 12/5/2005 9:20:57 PM |
tomloes All American 1646 Posts user info edit post |
sorry for wishing you gl in the 30+3 on stars earlier today jon. Looks like you busted out right afterwards. 12/5/2005 10:56:30 PM |
JonTurner All American 1899 Posts user info edit post |
heh, s'all good... I won a $24+2 on Full Tilt that I was in at the time for about $1200... so it worked out. 12/5/2005 11:04:05 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
notice how the new keyword at the poker table is donk/donkey.
its been around for many years, but as soon as I saw it on the wsop coverage this year, you just knew that youd read it 5059038209485902385 times a day in the chat boxes.
i swear if i only had a dollar for everytime someone calls me a donk, i wouldnt need to play poker.
(and when it comes down to it, most of the time, its just that they dont understand what I am doing) 12/5/2005 11:16:16 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
HEY GUESS WHAT IT JUST HAPPENED AGAIN
JCool29 said, "that was bad, you donkey" pilgrimshoes said, "skill" pilgrimshoes said, "=0" JCool29 said, "always best to get yoru $ in as a 5/1 dog"
What he doesnt understand is that I was basically on a blind steal. in a tournament hwen the blinds and antes get large, it pays off more to steal. Also there was a very tight player on the bb, and i raised with suited no gap connectors. It is also right near bubble time, which also tighens things up quite a bit. I happened to run into JJ who went all in over the top of my bet. Well, at this point i was getting over 4.1:1 on my call, and I must call.
His 5:1 approximation is still way off however, its more like 3:1.
so obviously, with a pot laying > 4:1, and having to call less than 3:1, what is the move here?
its pretty damn simple folks. 12/5/2005 11:24:13 PM |
DrOldSchool All American 2221 Posts user info edit post |
I've just resorted to telling everyone that plays shit and beats me, or beats me with the stone nuts to go fuck themselves.
[Edited on December 5, 2005 at 11:25 PM. Reason : mn] 12/5/2005 11:24:41 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha, i do the same thing then leave the table. its looks something like this:
stingrayrush: go XXXX yourself stingrayrush has left the table 12/5/2005 11:45:54 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
That one hand blew pilgrim, too bad the A hit.. that would have been game over for the tourney But still, you are rocking it this week. 12/6/2005 12:32:48 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
if anyone is awake and bored, ive got a great stack in the final 7 of another $20 mtt
ive got 105k to 61k 2nd place.
check me out on stars. you can im me and ill tell you what i have. 12/6/2005 1:01:33 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
nm got too aggressive with a flush draw.
four handed, and im short stacked.
bleh.
mother fuckers putting their money in with Q8 vs an ace and nailing an 8.
and out third for $450.
mehhhhhh
[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 1:36 AM. Reason : alsdjf;alksjfdl;aksjfd asdfl;kasjdf;laksjfd ] 12/6/2005 1:24:39 AM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah i was watching.. was rough 12/6/2005 1:52:00 AM |
moe All American 683 Posts user info edit post |
just got 2nd in Coral on Paradise for $1567...
but i shoulda been studying 12/6/2005 2:56:33 AM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
how many of these tournaments do yall not cash out compared to the ones you do cash out? Several of you are constantly talking about these tournaments where you cash out $500+, and I was just wondering what is your ratio of that happening to you walking away with nothing 12/6/2005 6:45:57 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
Its not so much about % in the money as it is ROI, or return on investment of your overal tournament experience. The real ROI doesnt come from limping into the money and busting immediately after the bubble. The real ROI boosts come from top three finishes. IF you really want to cash big in tournaments, youve got to take more chances, and bust more. Around bubble time is when I get 10x more active. Its a great time to grow a stack, the blinds/antes are large and the players are timid. Im not trying to limp inot the money, im trying to win the tournament.
Sure I may talk about alot of big cashes, but I also play probably 20+ $20+ entry fee tournaments per week. Some weeks even more. Obviously you dont see me mentioning having busted 9 straight tournaments yesterday adn the day before, before going deep in that last one last night. Just depends on my other schedule. The new pokerstars 20+2 180 person sit and go's have been a great thing for me. The play is nuts like a turbo 4 table sit n go, but you have all the time you need.
I shoot for about 30% ITM, and ideally would love over 200% ROI.
MTT ROI sustainability is a very interesting topic actually. With the nature of the ridiculous varaince in proper mtt play, I dont think you could ever really be confident in your actual roi statistic. Even though online play allows for a possibility of maybe a few thousand tournaments per year, I sitll dont think this is enough to establish your true ROI. A full time, multitabling STTer may be able to, but the deviation of STTs is much smaller than MTTs. Statistically, it is still possible for a soid, winning player to be <100% ROI for mtts.
On the other hand, Ive watched JonTurner play mtts online for a long time.
I swear, that kid cashes in about every tournament I watch.
Ive yet to read HOH, and am only about 10% of the way through with TPFAP, but after having read everything I can find on MTT forums on other webpages, my whole tournament theory has changed drastically. I used to just try and wait for big hands. Doing so, I lucked into a final table once over the course of 10 months. Recently Ive really started concentrating on tournament poker. Somehow ive been able to run into 6 final tables since Dec. 1st.
Its been a ridiculous run that is absolutely unsustainable I think. (But I'd like to think otherwise )
I forgot to also mention that you need to make sure that you dont play a bunch of MTTs underrolled or under prepared in what you are planning on doing. MTTs are a great way to blow a shitton of cash fast. For limit HE players it is suggested that you maintain at least a 300 big bet BR, but im more conservative and dont like to fall below 500. this is because of the massive number of hands i play online and mutitabling. The possibility of hitting a 5k hand downswing is entirely possible. As for STT BR, you could probably get by with a 75 buy in br, but that may be questionable. For full MTT play general consensus is a 100 x buyin (+entry fee) BR is necessary. I tend to think that this is a bit low, and like not to fall below a 200x buyin br. IF you are playing rebuys and addons, then this needs to be even higher. This is why I always satellite into the larger tournaments. If i dont make it in after spending no more than $70 in satelliete entry fees, then I stop trying to qualify for the 200+15 entry fee. ~30% of the full buy in is my limit.
This also brings up an interesting situation I was thinking of walking to class today. You can use the 10R sats to the 200+15 sunday tournaments on stars for tournament entry fee dollars. These are transferable. Thre are sites that you can buy the $T from, for say 90% of face value. I should buy a shitton of this and save a few bucks in entry fee. That or what I was really thinking was to play every 10R sat that is offered to build up a $T bankroll. you can use the tournament dollars for any tournament. So ideally what I was thinking is that if you make a seat in your first try at a 10R for the 215 $T, use that for the next 10R for the same prize. you could basically freeroll up a nice $T bankroll if you are more than like 6:1 on your 10R results, which should be easily sustainable.
[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 10:22 AM. Reason : $T] 12/6/2005 10:03:00 AM |
GKMatt All American 2426 Posts user info edit post |
what sites and forums are you reading regularly?? 12/6/2005 10:09:33 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
the 2+2 mtt forum has some very, very solid posters.
like several wsop final tablers from this year are regular posters.
raymer used to be a regular poster and still occasionally does. His stop-n-go thoerem has been an interesting idea ive been pondering for about a week now.
Id suggest spending about 2 weeks in the mtt archives. 12/6/2005 10:26:30 AM |
GKMatt All American 2426 Posts user info edit post |
link?? 12/6/2005 10:29:01 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.twoplustwo.com/
start here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=3436856&an=0&page=0#Post3436856
also, due to a pm,
HOH = Harrington on Hold'em TPFAP = tournament poker for advanced players (skalansky) 12/6/2005 10:32:58 AM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
good posts pilgrim 12/6/2005 11:31:18 AM |
JonTurner All American 1899 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "On the other hand, Ive watched JonTurner play mtts online for a long time.
I swear, that kid cashes in about every tournament I watch. " |
Haha, I wish... believe you me, your MTT game is much better than mine is at the moment. And I have full confidence in that statement.
Excellent post too!12/6/2005 12:53:41 PM |
moe All American 683 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.pocketfives.com 12/6/2005 9:38:46 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
Turner,
When I come to Vegas in a few weeks I have an itch to play a tournament or two.
Have you played the 300 at the wynn? Ive heard good things about this tournament, but would like some first hand advice. The 300 may be a bit higher than I had initially wanted to go, but I feel like taking a shot. Plus from what Ive seen online, it appears as if you start with a whole lot of chips with long blind times. (also, no rebuy/addons)
Also, Ive heard that the bellagio runs single table sats to the $500 tournament. Is this true? Ive heard it was like a 10 handed $100 with top two getting seats to the $500 tournament. and thats a no rebuy/add on right (the 500)? I may try and do this also.
Any suggestions as to like $100 tournaments we should try and check out? One of the guys comming with us wants to try out about a $100 no rebuy/add on tournament. He isnt too interested in plopping down for the $300 .
We'll be staying at the mirage, but ive heard that the 8/16 and 15/30 lhe there can be some of the toughest games in the city. NoidRoid isnt too interested in limit obviously, so id like to find a place that has a nice juicy no limit games along with about a 6/12 -> 15/30 limit game for me to play too. I havent decided if I want to play more limit or no limit.
wooooooooooooooooo
(tired of studying)
[Edited on December 6, 2005 at 11:44 PM. Reason : clarify] 12/6/2005 11:43:03 PM |
moe All American 683 Posts user info edit post |
just got 4th in the Stars $3 rebuy tourny for $1280...thats two big cash nights in a row for me
on a side note: i have an exam in 5 hours
ps. i just made my first deposit on Stars today...great way to start
[Edited on December 7, 2005 at 3:18 AM. Reason : ps] 12/7/2005 3:15:02 AM |
JonTurner All American 1899 Posts user info edit post |
You're pretty much right on with all the info about the tourneys... and yes, everyone agree's (based on the format) that the Wynn is the best regular one in town... they just changed it to 4 days a week too... tues - thurs ($300) and friday ($500)... all start at noon. There are some $50 - 150 tourneys daily around town, but the format in all of those is horrible. The Wynn however is an incredible format. You won't want to play any others (not even Bellagio)... believe me, stick with the Wynn. I forget what day your coming to town, but hopefully your trip will work out that you'll get to play a few of those. 12/7/2005 5:20:55 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
after an awful cash game last night, came home, drank a beer, signed up for the 100+9 on party at 8am
***** Hand History for Game 3165106499 ***** NL Texas Hold'em Trny:18094430 Level:10 Blinds (300/600) - Thursday, December 08, 10:26:32 EDT 2005 Table Multi-Table(534713) Table #1 (Real Money) Seat 8 is the button Total number of players : 5 Seat 1: CUTboy11 ( $4380 ) Seat 2: pilgrimshoes ( $6212 ) Seat 3: Cheri10 ( $27981 ) Seat 4: zorros1 ( $12577 ) Seat 8: mbdc0203 ( $18850 ) Trny:18094430 Level:10 Blinds (300/600) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to pilgrimshoes [ 9s 9c ] Cheri10 raises [1200]. zorros1 folds. mbdc0203 folds. CUTboy11 folds. pilgrimshoes is all-In [5612] Cheri10 calls [5012]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Qc, 3h, 4h ] ** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ] ** Dealing River ** [ 3c ] Cheri10 shows [ 8d, Kc ] two pairs, kings and threes. pilgrimshoes shows [ 9s, 9c ] two pairs, nines and threes. Cheri10 wins 12724 chips from the main pot with two pairs, kings and threes. Player pilgrimshoes finished in 5 place and received $560 pilgrimshoes has left the table.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: 12/8/2005 10:30:03 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
just so its well understood, im playing a limit omaha 8 tournament too.
lets just say the key word is valuebet.
dominance.
PokerStars Game #3274984263: Tournament #16033284, Omaha Hi/Lo Limit - Level XIV (3000/6000) - 2005/12/08 - 11:17:06 (ET) Table '16033284 6' Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: pilgrimshoes (115244 in chips) Seat 7: MJR51 (6256 in chips) pilgrimshoes: posts small blind 1500 MJR51: posts big blind 3000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to pilgrimshoes [Jc Qh 9s 2d] pilgrimshoes: raises 3000 to 6000 MJR51: raises 256 to 6256 and is all-in pilgrimshoes: calls 256 *** FLOP *** [8d 7d 8c] *** TURN *** [8d 7d 8c] [6d] *** RIVER *** [8d 7d 8c 6d] [Tc] *** SHOW DOWN *** MJR51: shows [Kc Ks 7h 9h] (HI: a straight, Six to Ten) pilgrimshoes: shows [Jc Qh 9s 2d] (HI: a straight, Seven to Jack) pilgrimshoes collected 12512 from pot No low hand qualified *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 12512 | Rake 0 Board [8d 7d 8c 6d Tc] Seat 1: pilgrimshoes (button) (small blind) showed [Jc Qh 9s 2d] and won (12512) with HI: a straight, Seven to Jack Seat 7: MJR51 (big blind) showed [Kc Ks 7h 9h] and lost with HI: a straight, Six to Ten Dealer: MJR51 finished the tournament in 2nd place Dealer: pilgrimshoes wins the tournament - congratulations!
[Edited on December 8, 2005 at 11:18 AM. Reason : woo] 12/8/2005 11:07:26 AM |
Lil G Suspended 2426 Posts user info edit post |
Can this guy have played his hand any worse? Pay special attention to the betting after the river.
***** Hand History for Game 3169862155 ***** Omaha Hi/Lo $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:18121343 Level:1 Stakes (15/30) - Friday, December 09, 03:43:59 EDT 2005 Table Table 66981 (Real Money) Seat 5 is the button Total number of players : 10 Seat 5: BigBigFlop ( $760 ) Seat 6: WXGUY ( $725 ) Seat 9: kkkel ( $440 ) Seat 7: Gabrainos ( $975 ) Seat 2: newtonfruit ( $725 ) Seat 8: Fake_Racks ( $800 ) Seat 4: JTevents ( $1260 ) Seat 1: banpet ( $770 ) Seat 10: beeflump ( $755 ) Seat 3: Blazing1 ( $790 ) Trny:18121343 Level:1 Stakes (15/30) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Gabrainos [ 7c 6d 5c Qc ] >You have options at Table 66753 Table!. Tell a friend about PartyPoker.com and earn $50 & 1000 Party Points. Your friend receives $25! Fake_Racks folds. kkkel calls [15]. beeflump folds. banpet calls [15]. newtonfruit folds. Blazing1 folds. >You have options at Table 66753 Table!. JTevents folds. BigBigFlop folds. WXGUY calls [5]. Gabrainos checks. >You have options at Table 66753 Table!. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, 8d, 3d ] WXGUY checks. Gabrainos checks. kkkel checks. banpet checks. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ] WXGUY checks. Gabrainos bets [30]. kkkel folds. banpet calls [30]. WXGUY calls [30]. ** Dealing River ** [ Ac ] WXGUY checks. Gabrainos bets [30]. banpet raises [60]. WXGUY folds. Gabrainos raises [60]. banpet raises [60]. Gabrainos calls [30]. banpet shows [ Ah, Ks, Ad, 3c ] three of a kind, aces. Gabrainos shows [ 7c, 6d, 5c, Qc ] a straight, five to nine. Gabrainos shows 7,6,5,3,A for low. Gabrainos wins 195 chips from the main pot with a straight, five to nine. Gabrainos wins Lo (195 chips) from the main pot with 7,6,5,3,A. 12/9/2005 4:04:17 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
not very much worse, but yeah, i think it is possible.
I mean, he whiffed the fuck out of the flop, with his only low getting counterfeited right off the bat. and naked aces arent really something i'd fawn over in a limit o8 game.
he could have bet the flop here. that would have been worse, but marginally. highly doubt if you would have folded your draw so early in the tournament, or ever for that matter. plus with any sort of a sembolance to the nut low, you or wxguy is calling everytime. he only loses money by betting this flop, which he didnt.
most players in the lower limit omaha tournaments for some reason go apeshit bananas over aces. its the hold'em player in them throwing ill advised shit fits. its one of the things that makes a proficent omaha (hi or hi/lo) game such a valueable commodity in today's poker world.
despite the fact that the board is wicked straight heavy, he still goes crazy on the river. sounds about right for a holdem player hitting a set of aces in omaha. did you put him on a ass backed into wheel?
i do feel pretty confident however that you were pretty surprised to scoop this one with the worst possible low.
oh yeah and about not raisnig preflop, its the idea of many low limit omaha people that are just starting to limp with marginally large hands to enormous hands, ie any a2 or aaxx, esp something like aa2x or aa3x in this example in order to not sare anyone else out of limping into a pot in order to build a big pot up. it doesnt make much sense in this case, but it happensa ll the damn time.
This type of thing reminds me of a plo8 tournament i played on party one night, where as soon as the first hand was dealt...
xxxx"why can i see four cards?" ...."i dont know, this is weird"
1st hand passes, including one of the above players capping iwth a 4 flush on board and a naked ace of that flush in his hand
xxxx"wtf was that?? why didnt i win that pot? wtf is a low?"
makes for great, and easy tournaments.
[Edited on December 9, 2005 at 7:50 AM. Reason : pfr]
[Edited on December 9, 2005 at 7:51 AM. Reason : eee] 12/9/2005 7:47:27 AM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
God where are you playing omaha, I want to play there.. 12/9/2005 8:08:03 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
omaha tournaments everywhere are notorious for terrible play 12/9/2005 8:18:15 AM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
Every one I've played in (Empire, Party, Absolute) had semi decent players, there were a few idiots who chased but they tended to get lucky on me. I guess I just havent played enough. 12/9/2005 8:38:09 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
notice how early it is in that tournament.
the maniacal never played omaha before guy usually either
a.) busts fast when limits get about 50/100 b.) gets lucky and builds a huge stack, but busts when the limits get to about 200/400. 12/9/2005 10:20:46 AM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
this is ridiculous
last three mtt tournaments
made flush beat by river boat made flush beat by river boat 22 beat by AJ post flop of J92 when turn is a 9 and river is J
goddamnit
[Edited on December 9, 2005 at 11:18 PM. Reason : .] 12/9/2005 11:17:05 PM |
CaelNCSU All American 7082 Posts user info edit post |
*Game*
12/10/2005 2:28:34 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
So I decided to take the weekend off playing poker.
That lasted abot 20 minutes.
aahaha
I GOTTA KEEP ON THE TOP 100 TLB POINTS MANG, A SATURDAY CANT BE PASSED UP!
for an example, heres why
PokerStars Game #3295210484: Tournament #16316489, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/12/10 - 14:52:07 (ET) Table '16316489 17' Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: dmoney2004 (1430 in chips) Seat 2: FrankomaPuma (1620 in chips) Seat 3: mickohora1 (2510 in chips) Seat 4: pilgrimshoes (1630 in chips) Seat 5: RANDANDY (710 in chips) Seat 6: killa gabe (1430 in chips) Seat 7: coacho8 (1400 in chips) Seat 8: biteme35male (1220 in chips) Seat 9: u got legion (1550 in chips) killa gabe: posts small blind 10 coacho8: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to pilgrimshoes [Th Qc] biteme35male: folds u got legion: raises 149 to 169 dmoney2004: folds FrankomaPuma: calls 169 mickohora1: folds pilgrimshoes: folds RANDANDY: folds killa gabe: folds coacho8: folds *** FLOP *** [7c 2c 7s] u got legion: bets 381 FrankomaPuma: raises 381 to 762 u got legion: raises 619 to 1381 and is all-in FrankomaPuma: calls 619 *** TURN *** [7c 2c 7s] [4d] *** RIVER *** [7c 2c 7s 4d] [4s] *** SHOW DOWN *** u got legion: shows [Qs Jh] (two pair, Sevens and Fours) FrankomaPuma: shows [Ks As] (two pair, Sevens and Fours - Ace kicker) FrankomaPuma collected 3130 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3130 | Rake 0 Board [7c 2c 7s 4d 4s] Seat 1: dmoney2004 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: FrankomaPuma showed [Ks As] and won (3130) with two pair, Sevens and Fours Seat 3: mickohora1 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: pilgrimshoes folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: RANDANDY (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: killa gabe (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 7: coacho8 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 8: biteme35male folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: u got legion showed [Qs Jh] and lost with two pair, Sevens and Fours
[Edited on December 10, 2005 at 2:54 PM. Reason : eesh] 12/10/2005 2:44:16 PM |