no games is pretty different from some games.

3/30/2008 7:09:35 PM

I rag pretty hard on the PS3 for being a heavy monolith but at least it's doing its part for cancer research.

3/30/2008 7:12:30 PM

it would be pretty ironic if the ps3 caused cancer.

3/30/2008 7:16:00 PM

Basically you want FPS or SERIOUS BUSINESS RPG games (as if any japanese game actually fits this bill, ever).

3/30/2008 7:39:34 PM

lets not forget the shitty Xbox360 ports.

3/30/2008 9:51:08 PM

Seriously guys, what does your mother think of you trolling like this?

Why can't you just overpay for a shitty video game console like all the other neighborhood boys?

3/30/2008 10:06:00 PM

A bunch of non-gamers trolling the PS3 thread again....nice. Anywho, carry on.

3/31/2008 8:48:30 AM

Quote :

"I rag pretty hard on the PS3 for being a heavy monolith"

only the wii does not fall under this description...

warhawk ftw

3/31/2008 12:13:48 PM

the ps3 is basically my dedicated warhawk machine

i should really start in on R&C but don't feel the need to

3/31/2008 12:28:14 PM

I don't understand why you're going to highlight the fact that even non-gamers are making fun of the fact that it still has no games.

At the end of the day, everyone is using their Playstation 3 gaming console to do the same thing anyway:

Watch DVDs.

[Edited on March 31, 2008 at 12:54 PM. Reason : .]

3/31/2008 12:54:00 PM

constructive post

3/31/2008 12:58:30 PM

Quote :

"A bunch of non-gamers trolling the PS3 thread again....nice. Anywho, carry on."

O'Rly?

LOL

3/31/2008 1:22:54 PM

Here's the thing, the statement "it has no games" is entirely subjective. It has plenty of games. If you don't like any of them, that's your problem. Considering the 360 and PS3 share 90% of their libraries, saying it has no games paints a pretty bleak picture for the entire HD console landscape, which is obviously not true.

"But the ports, they are shitty!!!"

Yeah, the shitty games have shitty ports. The good games like CoD4, Devil May Cry 4, Burnout Paradise, and even Orange Box have excellent ports, and the differences in other games that people have bitched and moaned about border on nit picking and is really just a talking point for forum circle jerks such as this.

"But it has no exclusives"

Wrong, it has plenty of exclusives. Resistance, Motorstorm, Ninja Gaiden: Sigma, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, R&C, Folklore, "that baseball game", UTIII (it's as much an exclusive as Gears of War, Bioshock, and Mass Effect), and more. As good as the 360s exclusive lineup? Hell no, but we're talking a year behind here, and PS3s first year was considerably better than the 360s first year. By summer GT5: Prologue and MGS4 will have hit and the gap will be almost nil. Not to mention Resistance 2, Killzone 2, and Little Big Planet later this year.

So again, completely subjective and considering what I know of most of your gaming habits (Golovko excepted), your opinions mean pretty much squat to anyone in this thread. If you don't like any of those exclusives, already own a 360, and bought a PS3 for gaming, well then you pretty much owned yourself, gg.

"It's overpriced."

Yes, its expensive, but the PS3 has never been overpriced. You know what's overpriced? $100 wireless adapters, $180 hard drives, and $50(a year) for online gaming. The PS3 was a great value at $600 and absolutely blows the 360 away at $400, especially given the outcome of the HD war. It's hands down the best value in CE, and gives more functionality then 4 devices combined for half the price with the added bonus of not having a 40% failure rate.

Honestly, I have no reason to defend the PS3 anymore. The fact that it out sold the 360 in NPD the past 2 months, won the HD media war, and has convinced pretty much every major 3rd party developer to jump on it's bandwagon is more than enough to make the PS3s critics (collectively) look like idiots. But hell, since I know none of you actually keep up with any of this, I thought I'd make it clear why you're wrong.

[Edited on March 31, 2008 at 2:14 PM. Reason : :]

3/31/2008 2:01:06 PM

Holy shit. Q.E.D.

3/31/2008 2:10:57 PM

I have a PS3 so don't take my post coming from someone that is biased, but:

Quote :

"Considering the 360 and PS3 share 90% of their libraries,"

The PS3 might share 90% of it's library with the 360 might be true, but the 360 doesn't share 90% of it's library with the PS3.

Quote :

"Ninja Gaiden: Sigma,"

That's kinda/sorta an exclusive. It's just Ninja Gaiden that was released on the Original xbox with better graphics and an extra level or two. That's like saying that Bully game is an xbox exclusive (it might be but it's been out for years on PS2)

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"The PS3 was a great value at $600 and absolutely blows the 360 away at $400, especially given the outcome of the HD war.."

I think it's a good value at $400 (what I bought my 40gig at) but you can't say that it's a better value because of the HD war. It's not like the 360 had a HDDVD drive built in. I know you can come back with 100s of arguments here.... But it's not going to convince me that the 360 is a bad value at 400 either (especially with Live Silver being free and much better than PSN)



Which brings me to another point. I like the fact that the PS3 can use any bluetooth headset to talk on PSN... But why can't I send voice messages like I do on Live Silver? Live Silver still allows more content than PSN. Both are free. Will PSN catch up?


I'd pay 5 dollars a month for PSN to be like Live Gold too. Why don't they get on the ball with a good online experience?

3/31/2008 2:11:12 PM

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"The PS3 was a great value at $600 and absolutely blows the 360 away at $400, especially given the outcome of the HD war.."

Are we talking high def movie player or are we talking a gaming console? I don't see your logic there at all.

3/31/2008 2:26:36 PM

need to leave a voice message? use a fucking phone...it's shit like that on live that people toot their horns on that make me say "why the hell would I need that?"

and as i've said before, i own over a dozen PS3 games, have plead each of them for hours apiece and love them all

but anyway, Shrike pretty much said what i was thinking

3/31/2008 2:26:39 PM

can't think for yourself, huh?

3/31/2008 2:27:34 PM

Quote :

"need to leave a voice message? use a fucking phone.."

Why fucking call on the phone when you can fucking write a letter and mail it?



Sometimes I want to fart into the mic and send it to my friend, Noah. I can't do that on PS3.

3/31/2008 2:30:05 PM

holy jesus...comparing voice mail to us mail...now i've seen everything

3/31/2008 2:33:44 PM

comparing phone messages to messages left on a gaming console...


Now I've seen everything.

3/31/2008 2:35:02 PM

It doesn't change the fact that PSN is a lot more limited than Live Silver... And I wish that wasn't so.

3/31/2008 2:35:36 PM

what is it that gold gets you over silver? online multiplayer and video chat? yeah, think the PSN covers both of those

but you're right, you can't fart into your mic and leave it for your buddy to hear later in the day

3/31/2008 2:40:17 PM

Well, you're very defensive of your gaming system. Does it hurt you emotionally or physically when someone ridicules it?

Jesus. I just said that PSN needs to get up to par. The content that is on PSN is minuscule (demos/videos/downloadable games/etc.)


The system is great.. PSN has a lot of catching up to do.

3/31/2008 2:44:11 PM

Quote :

"Are we talking high def movie player or are we talking a gaming console? I don't see your logic there at all."

Uh... it's a great value, dude. It doesn't matter it's failings, it's a great value.

Pack enough shit into a Foreman grill package and sooner or later you'll actually want to do something it's capable of. Now that's value.

3/31/2008 2:56:41 PM

Man, I bought my PS3 just for Metal Gear Solid 4. I can do things like that.

3/31/2008 3:17:51 PM

^pretty much me in ~2 months, with Final Fantasy XIII down the road.

3/31/2008 3:23:09 PM

http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/31/ps3-homebrew-hack-found-hello-world/

3/31/2008 3:32:43 PM

And at the end of the day

Shrike still plays wow or wii more then his ps3.

QED that.

3/31/2008 5:52:25 PM

I didn't read much of his rambling but I will say that xbox live although expensive (ok not really) is an excellent system.

That and Sony didn't even think it was a good deal at 600$.

I would also love to be able to comment on people trolling, then literally not but hours later take the bait and rip the hook off the line all during standard 9-5 work hours.



[Edited on March 31, 2008 at 6:38 PM. Reason : i need a web job]

3/31/2008 6:35:30 PM

Quote :

"Sometimes I want to fart into the mic and send it to my friend, Noah. I can't do that on PS3."

stupid shit like that is why I'd rather be on PSN.

3/31/2008 9:51:03 PM

stupid crap like PSN is what makes me glad im on xbox live

3/31/2008 10:01:35 PM

^^I guess it's a good thing I'm not your friend then.

3/31/2008 10:02:21 PM

meh, I've got a wii and a PS3 and I play the PS3 a lot more, Warhawk kicks butt, as does COD4,
Never got into the XBOX or 360...

4/5/2008 12:11:26 PM

will GT 5 prologue support that $300 logitech racing wheel with the clutch/6spd gear box?

4/5/2008 1:25:26 PM

^ I just plugged a Logitech DualAction in and it works, so there's a chance... but maybe not the gear shift.

I'm happy with the new update improving DivX and XVid support. Now there's better chance you can stream your Windows Media Player 11 library (if you don't wanna download UPnP media server software). Tried it on Naruto and it works up til the latest episode when they changed to H264 codec. You'll need to transcode on your computer before streaming with something like tversity for that.

If you download the $30 Warhawk, does it include the latest expansion?

[Edited on April 5, 2008 at 5:06 PM. Reason : . ]

4/5/2008 5:04:21 PM

You don't have to transcode anything, the PS3 will play H.264/X.264 video streams natively. What you will have to do, since it's probably inside an MKV, is convert it to a file format the PS3 will recognize. There a couple good apps that will do this, and preserve 5.1 audio.

http://sentry23.googlepages.com/

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=131782

4/5/2008 5:40:34 PM

Quote :

"will GT 5 prologue support that $300 logitech racing wheel with the clutch/6spd gear box?"

This may be the only thing that gets me a ps3.

The good thing is, I've saved the cost of an hd-dvd player +100$ by waiting. I guess not watching happy Gilmore in blu-ray was worth the wait!

The ps3 will price drop when mgs4 comes out right? Its due for another drop....

4/6/2008 9:31:08 AM

I'm getting $150 in Best Buy gift cards for not waiting and buying a HD DVD player (x3) how nice of best buy to care...lol

4/6/2008 10:33:25 AM

Price drop? No, but there is going to be a $500 bundle with an 80gb PS3, MGS4 and a Dual Shock 3, to replace the 80gb bundle they just discontinued.

4/6/2008 11:12:50 AM

My mistake. Apparently my logitech dualAction doesn't actually work in-game... i can only browse the PS3 menus with it. Hope the wheel works though. Anybody know if the SIXAXIS is being discounted anywhere in anticipation of the DualShock 3?

4/6/2008 12:35:10 PM

Wtf is a dual shock THREE?

What was wrong with one and two?

4/6/2008 1:54:34 PM

It has motion- and acceleration-sensing, which the DualShock 2 didn't have. And the DualShock 2 had analog button sensitivity, which the original DualShock didn't have.

[Edited on April 6, 2008 at 2:22 PM. Reason : ...]

4/6/2008 2:22:17 PM

That's right, folks. Lair will still work with your new controllers!

4/6/2008 3:57:48 PM

^^^ dual shock 1 and 2 don't work on ps3, right? unless there's some adapter i don't know about

4/6/2008 4:43:17 PM

Instead of the $300 wheel, why don't you get Logitech's "official" wheel for GT? See Logitech's PS3 accessory site: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/playstation_3/&cl=us,en

Amazon also has a package to buy the wheel and GT5 together for $190: http://www.amazon.com/Playstation-Logitech-Driving-Force-Racing/dp/B0015HYPOO/mysteryeggshomep


As for the PSN network needing to catch up, have you seen HOME? It will be like a SecondLife lobby to find people to match up against... YouTube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZY2vwlh5-g

Eventually, HOME will open up for public beta: http://www.homebetatrial.com/

4/6/2008 5:18:28 PM

what paddle currently comes with the PS3?

Is the dualshock 3 better than that one?

4/6/2008 5:28:39 PM

wtf is a paddle?

4/6/2008 8:25:13 PM

here's my list of potential ps3 games i'm interested in...

Grand Turismo 5: Prologue (4/15/08)
Haze (5/20/08)
Metal Gear Solid 4 (6/12/08)
Socom: Confrontation (9/16/08)
Killzone 2 (TBA)
Resistance 2 (TBA)
The Agency (TBA)
Prototype (TBA)
God of War III (TBA)
Twisted Metal (TBA)

4/6/2008 8:41:15 PM

paddle = controller

i've always called it a paddle, as have my friends

4/6/2008 9:10:13 PM