Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
So it sounds like he may have murdered his older brother too. According to a couple reports police had subdued him after he ran out of bullets and were in the process of taking him alive. Dzhokhar then plowed into him with the SUV they had hijacked, dragging his body 30-40 feet and probably killing him. 4/20/2013 11:16:48 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89740 Posts user info edit post |
Wait, so do we think this cat will be charged federally, instead of by the state of Massachusetts? 4/20/2013 11:16:56 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
^ Probably. That's what it sounds like anyway. 4/20/2013 11:19:14 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89740 Posts user info edit post |
Ah, ok. I was wondering how that whole death penalty thing would potentially play out 4/20/2013 11:20:53 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
I had assumed the younger one pussed out in the middle of the suicide by cop mission and ran.
I mean this fucker had over 24 hours to prevent himself from being taken alive, for whatever reason he did not want to. 4/20/2013 11:24:04 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 25651 Posts user info edit post |
A more calm (and long) interview with Uncle Ruslan:
] 4/20/2013 11:28:41 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
^^ supposedly he has a gunshot wound in the back of his neck - maybe he did try and fucked up
[Edited on April 20, 2013 at 11:29 PM. Reason : ] 4/20/2013 11:29:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148223 Posts user info edit post |
Red Sox: win by 1 run Bruins: lose Celtics: lose
way to step up, Boston sports teams 4/21/2013 1:30:47 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42535 Posts user info edit post |
does this say fbi gang?
4/21/2013 6:40:45 AM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
FBI
GANG
TASK FORCE
[Edited on April 21, 2013 at 6:52 AM. Reason : Space ] 4/21/2013 6:52:08 AM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "does this say fbi gang?" |
So?4/21/2013 9:59:00 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
They had every agency in the northeast there. I watched it on TV all day Friday until the power went out.
They had undercover cars like sea-mist green Camrys and shit, lots of vehicles you never even think a cop would be driving was driving around with flashing blue lights on, DEA agents, pretty much every type of cop there is was working the manhunt. 4/21/2013 10:03:59 AM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think Beck is Mormon anymore 4/21/2013 10:22:24 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
then someone should tell him that, because he still claims it 4/21/2013 10:38:32 AM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4365 Posts user info edit post |
http://m.gizmodo.com/5995153/the-crazy-accurate-thermal-images-that-saw-dzokhar-tsarnaev-through-a-boat-tarp 4/21/2013 11:11:41 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
If the report that these guys were motivated by 9/11 false flag conspiracies turns out to be true, its funny that their conspiracy compatriots won't believe they did this, and will think this was a false flag attack 4/21/2013 12:54:38 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
yeah my kooky uncle has been sending me a bunch of conspiracy shit about this.
thinks the guy who got his legs blown off is an amputee actor, etc. 4/21/2013 12:58:46 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50084 Posts user info edit post |
Wait, what? Where did you hear/read that?
It would be the mother of all irony.
^ lol, what? I mean there are pictures of him with blood spewing and his bone sticking out
[Edited on April 21, 2013 at 1:00 PM. Reason : X] 4/21/2013 12:59:16 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
"they're obviously staged, haven't you ever seen a REAL injury like that?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bYIso97pBE&feature=youtu.be
[Edited on April 21, 2013 at 1:03 PM. Reason : ,] 4/21/2013 1:02:46 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
I always enjoy the fact that these conspiracy people aren't phased by the fact that none of them are educated or known for their intellectual prowess. 4/21/2013 1:21:17 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
Damn! Does that helicopter video show the flash bangs being thrown at him?? Fuck that shit! He didn't even move! 4/21/2013 2:16:19 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
http://georgedonnelly.com/libertarian/boston-police-state-failed 4/21/2013 2:56:08 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27740 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah well he probably wasn't conscious. I mean he was shot 20 hours before and had been bleeding like a stuck pig. At the very least he wasn't very lucid. 4/21/2013 2:56:56 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
The other perspective to that link, we did all that to catch one kid who may or may not have had the capacity to cause more damage, judging upon what had previously occurred, just imagine how much power we would put into finding a group of "professional" terrorists. This should be a sign that getting away with this shit won't be fucking easy for you terrorists if we are willing to shut down a city until we find him. 4/21/2013 3:02:39 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
The problem is often terrorists don't care if they get away with it 4/21/2013 3:04:12 PM |
oneshot 1183 Posts user info edit post |
So, supposedly Glenn Beck is going to prove on Monday how Obama & the government is behind all of this. I didn't know his ratings were so low that he had to be the new Alex Jones.
This is a good read by the way: http://georgedonnelly.com/libertarian/boston-police-state-failed
[Edited on April 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM. Reason : ,] 4/21/2013 3:07:40 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
Beck hasn't been relevant since Fox News shit canned his show due to causing Fox to bleed sponsors over the stupid shit he says. And even then his relevance was limited to the typical Daily Show or Colbert Report musings. 4/21/2013 3:16:09 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50084 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If you allow an angsty teenager with a pressure cooker to frighten you into abandoning your daily routine and cowering in your home as if it were a prison, then you desperately need to re-evaluate your posture towards life. Reclaim your self-respect, Boston." |
Fascinating read but mostly captain america type bullshit. I don't give a shit if some armchair hero thinks I had no self-respect, if I was up there my bitch ass was staying behind a lock and key.
And it's pretty clear that article is simply politicking and little more.
[Edited on April 21, 2013 at 4:11 PM. Reason : X]4/21/2013 4:10:53 PM |
GrayFox33 TX R. Snake 10566 Posts user info edit post |
At the risk of expressing an actual opinion in CC, this:
100%]4/21/2013 4:51:13 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
so tuff 4/21/2013 5:13:36 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4365 Posts user info edit post |
Meh. I agree with what he's saying about terrorism working, but that's about It. He doesn't offer any other solution to the problem, just a lot of fluff. 4/21/2013 5:14:10 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
If they told me to stay off the streets, because he was on the loose, I would. Know why?
All the people LAPD shot up during the Dorner manhunt. A bunch of cops, who are jonesing to catch the guy, in your neighborhood. Recipe for disaster. Case in point, the old man with the "explosive jacket"
[Edited on April 21, 2013 at 5:17 PM. Reason : .] 4/21/2013 5:16:33 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
And the dude they forced to get naked. And the other dude with the similar type hoodie. Plus you never know if the bad guy has weapons and wants to go out n a bang.
They're now saying that throat wound was most likely self inflicted. Terrible place to try and kill yourself. 4/21/2013 5:24:31 PM |
GrayFox33 TX R. Snake 10566 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Post also cited unnamed “law enforcement officials” who lambasted the use of Reddit and other social media sites that were attempting to work in parallel to the authorities.
“In addition to being almost universally wrong, the theories developed via social media complicated the official investigation, according to law enforcement officials,” the Post reported. “Those officials said Saturday that the decision on Thursday to release photos of the two men in baseball caps was meant in part to limit the damage being done to people who were wrongly being targeted as suspects in the news media and on the Internet.”" |
4/21/2013 5:26:04 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148223 Posts user info edit post |
that FLIR video was pretty cool 4/21/2013 5:54:59 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
^^i believe that. The actual suspects were never once mentioned, and our resolve that we had the right two people was scarily forceful. I wish we could've really discovered the suspects but I never saw any pics with them in them. :/ 4/21/2013 6:14:36 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, the only picture that they were found in was the one walking away from the bombing, iirc. I didn't buy any of the people singled out... But I definitely bit on the missing student from Brown.. 4/21/2013 6:19:56 PM |
GrayFox33 TX R. Snake 10566 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ARMCHAIR
INTERNET
SLEUTHS" |
Quote : | "found at thewolfweb.com and also called TWW or T-Dub." | ]4/21/2013 7:37:11 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 52879 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I kind of understand not reading his Miranda rights initially, so as to try to get him to talk and see if there is any further ongoing threat (booby traps, other bombs, additional co-conspirators, etc).
I do think that he should, after that, be read his Miranda rights and treated as a criminal case, albeit at the federal level. Of course, I think they're gonna have so much physical evidence against him that it won't matter if his testimony is admissible in court, anyway (which is all that would happen if they didn't Mirandize him)." |
Absolutely not. Miranda rights shouldn't be optional, especially not in this case. There's no reason to think that there is more shit going on, so there is no "imminent threat", so read him his rights as soon as he is cognizant and coherent. This notion of "fuck what we can get in admitted into court" is damned scary. Miranda rights don't exist to help us determine what can be used in court. In fact, what we allow in court is specifically based on the fact that NOT recognizing those rights is FUCKING WRONG. Making things inadmissible in court is supposed to discourage the gov't from trampling on these rights. To have gov't officials say "we don't give a rat's ass about his rights, we're going to trample on them because we don't care about what will be admissible in court, we'll do what we want" is abhorrent! Any gov't official espousing that view should be immediately impeached for going against their oath of office, and he should be thrown in jail! Then to have a Marine, who is sworn to protect and defend the Constitution, saying the same things? Come on, man...4/21/2013 9:09:00 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
lol rights 4/21/2013 9:16:41 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
I opened up discussion on the reddit pics and the missing student on my facebook page. I don't think I'm a bad person for doing it, and if someone singled me out for doing something I didn't do when there's no criminal or other charges involved, I don't think I'd care very much and certainly wouldn't tell news organizations it's affected my life to any degree. I think it's a little different for muslims, middle easterners, etc. However, in the aftermath of everything that's gone down Thursday night, nobody's gonna remember who you are except by your own devices if you keep bringing attention to yourself media-wise. 4/21/2013 9:19:14 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
do people think that Miranda rights don't exist until they are read to you? The cops don't grant you the right to remain silent; they're merely informing you of the Fifth Amendment. 4/21/2013 9:19:28 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
PS I am highly fascinated by how much that conspiracy theory guy is up his own ass, and I look forward to a Loose Change-style documentary on Netflix by people of the like. If there's something that separates all this from pure comedy, I have no idea what it is. 4/21/2013 9:21:06 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
It's a Miranda warning, not "Miranda rights." You have all the rights the warning reminds you of regardless of whether they are read to you or not. A Miranda Warning serves to more protect the law enforcement and their investigation then it is to protect you. 4/21/2013 9:23:00 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
^ that's pointed out, and i think most people get it, but if suspect#2 is not aware that he has 5th amendment rights, the worst that could happen is that any statements he makes are inadmissible in court. There's not any reason I can think of that they wouldn't want to mirandize him. This seems like a asinine thing to be discussing, especially with politicians saying "no".
We have his house and computer and friends, there crime seems generally ill planned, why wouldn't we let the investigators who have a much clearer picture about who they are and why they did this make this decision?
Seems like the media and right wing politicians trying to push this as "enemy combatants" for the purpose of trampling rights and torture are doing far more damage than the armchair sleuths could have done. 4/21/2013 9:35:44 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/22/us-usa-explosions-boston-writing-idUSBRE93L00220130422
Quote : | "(Reuters) - The 19-year-old suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings, who was seriously wounded and unable to speak, is awake and responding in writing to questions from authorities, according to a Tweets by ABC and NBC news networks.
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who is in the intensive care unit of Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, is responding sporadically, the ABC news network reported on its Twitter feed.
NBC's Pete Williams is also reporting Tsarnaev is writing answers to questions from law enforcement.
Tsarnaev is being treated for a gunshot in the mouth that exited the back of his neck, according Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis, who was interviewed on CBS' "60 Minutes."
He also suffered a gunshot wound to the leg, Davis said." |
4/21/2013 9:46:27 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
always amazes me how many people try to off themselves with the gun pointing out the back. it's up through the palate and into the brain, folks. 4/21/2013 9:50:05 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 52879 Posts user info edit post |
pre-med, too... you'd think he'd know 4/21/2013 9:51:54 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
I've heard of plenty of people blowing their face off and not killing themselves, don't think I've heard of any going through the neck 4/21/2013 9:52:33 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
LMAO jihad fail. Poor idiot, shoots self in mouth, lives to talk about. 4/21/2013 9:53:15 PM |