No scoring =/= no offense

11/12/2011 2:44:33 AM

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"No coach can change the fact that in the short term we just aren't as good as some of the other teams in the world."

How many times have you said something to this effect in this thread? Stop. It's dumb. Nobody thinks a new coach will make us world cup champions. But it's very possible new tactics and a new strategy will afford us more opportunities to play attacking soccer. Anybody who wanted Klinsmann to be a failure (like big4country) is probably pretty happy right now. But he's doing exactly the same things Bradley would have done so it's not like we're missing anything.

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Quote :

"No scoring =/= no offense"

While this is true, we have had neither in the last few games. 11 behind the ball for the majority of the game and our only chances are pussy ass 30 yard shots.

11/12/2011 8:32:28 AM

^I don't want him to fail and I hope that any coach who coaches the USA will be a winner. I just think it's funny that we are still the USA after yet another coaching change when so many people were acting like a European born coach would make us soooooo much better. It was the right move to hire the current coaching staff when they did and I am glad the USSF didn't just wait till the end of a 4 year cycle again.

11/12/2011 1:09:22 PM

It's not just about Jurgen being European for Christ's sake. It's about experience and an understanding of the game. Let's look at both of their resumes before they were hired for the national team.


Bob Bradley:

Played college soccer without distinction
Coached college
Coached well in a newly formed mediocre league (MLS)

Jurgen Klinnsman:

Played at both at the club level (in four of five of the best European leagues) and internationally with distinction.
Managed at one of the largest clubs in the world at Bayern Munich
Managed Germany to a third place finish at the World Cup by changing the teams philosophy and turning around a team that greatly underperformed during Euro's two years earlier
Is a god damned US Citizen


Now - objectively - looking at their resumes, which would you choose? You're lying through your teeth if you don't say Jurgen. I appreciate that Bob did pretty well with our National Team, but his inability to adapt the team, which was perhaps due to his limited understanding, ultimately meant he had to go. And show me an American coach with half the credentials of Klinnsman. I dare you.

11/12/2011 1:46:28 PM

^You couldn't have said it any better. I wish we could have gotten Jurgen Klinnsman sooner. Oh well, better late than never I guess.

11/12/2011 9:03:26 PM

So I'm seeing articles today about Arsenal and Everton wanting to sign Shea. I assume these are just overreactions to innocuous quotes..

11/14/2011 12:58:43 PM

lol at Everton signing anybody


haha is this the article you saw it in?

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Arsenal-target-Brek-Shea-also-chased-by-Everton-article830054.html

Quote :

"However Shea is the new name on his wish list and a decent performance against the French has put another tick in the box. Moyes wants an extra central defender and may have found him."

Spot on analysis, Mirror.

[Edited on November 14, 2011 at 1:14 PM. Reason : LOL]

11/14/2011 1:11:47 PM

lol, that has to be a joke right?

11/14/2011 8:46:41 PM

The comments say he played the full 90 in a game as a center back back in 08.

But yeah that's pretty dumb.

[Edited on November 14, 2011 at 8:57 PM. Reason : back back back]

11/14/2011 8:57:15 PM

He briefly played CB for Dallas to start the season because of injuries.


But he also hasn't played there in months, he's never played there for the US, he looked like shit against France, and Everton is poor as fuck and wouldn't waste money on Shea even if they had money

[Edited on November 14, 2011 at 9:02 PM. Reason : .]

11/14/2011 9:01:49 PM

Unless Moyes is desperate to replace Fellaini with someone with the same body frame and unimpressive football skills.

11/14/2011 9:06:15 PM

game's at noon

USA lineup: Howard; Cherundolo, Goodson, Bocanegra, Chandler; Johnson, Beckerman, Bradley, Dempsey; Buddle, Altidore

At least Bradley's starting? Good call on a 4-4-2 as well.

11/15/2011 11:35:23 AM

hahah what the fuck was that dude doing... in behind all alone and basically stalled until our defense could get back

11/15/2011 12:22:24 PM

Almost glad I can't watch.

11/15/2011 12:23:58 PM

AWWWWW YEAAHHHHH

Buddle 1-0

[Edited on November 15, 2011 at 12:28 PM. Reason : Buddle]

11/15/2011 12:28:20 PM

is there a gametracker somewhere?

11/15/2011 12:31:51 PM

Really? Try espn.

11/15/2011 12:32:32 PM

This fog is getting ridiculous.

11/15/2011 12:34:07 PM

I can't see shit.

11/15/2011 12:36:57 PM

see, here's the thing hey now. i'm at work. and my computer sucks. and i'm working. so instead of trying to search on espn and take 20-30 secs to bring-up each page, it'd be easier if somebody just knew of a link they could post. it'd make things so much easier. so that's why i asked.

11/15/2011 12:37:29 PM

the accuracy of these offside calls is astounding considering the visibility

jinx?

fucking bullshit defending, even if he was off

[Edited on November 15, 2011 at 12:46 PM. Reason : 1-1]

11/15/2011 12:43:03 PM

^except that one

11/15/2011 12:46:15 PM

Goodson needs to gtfo

11/15/2011 12:49:43 PM

Udine is basically in Slovenia. I guess that's why they're better than us.

11/15/2011 12:52:47 PM

Dempsey! Max Moore!

11/15/2011 1:00:07 PM

DEUCEEEEE

11/15/2011 1:00:12 PM

JOZY!!

WE CAN'T STOP SCORING GOALS

11/15/2011 1:02:09 PM

FINALLY THE TRUTH

11/15/2011 1:18:10 PM

Matavz just showed that you might as well dribble around our stand and look defense.

11/15/2011 1:24:25 PM

Buddle should have played that back instead of falling over like a special needs kid.

11/15/2011 1:25:56 PM

holy shit that was a 5 minute bombardment

11/15/2011 1:35:44 PM

is it possible that we find a way to lose this?

[Edited on November 15, 2011 at 1:36 PM. Reason : step 1 complete]

11/15/2011 1:35:51 PM

LOL Beckerman looked like he was on ice during that one. He is so bad.

11/15/2011 1:36:33 PM

CB Brek Shea on to shore things up defensively

11/15/2011 1:36:35 PM

lulz

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE THAT BECKERMAN IS EVER ON THE FIELD.

[Edited on November 15, 2011 at 1:40 PM. Reason : BECKERHATE]

11/15/2011 1:38:30 PM

In the cloud, anything is possible.

11/15/2011 1:38:45 PM

critics. what critics.

11/15/2011 2:10:49 PM

it's just slovenia

when will lalas drop the condescending tone

11/15/2011 2:18:24 PM

never. He was the first American to play in Serie A, you know. He can say whatever the fuck he pleases.

11/15/2011 2:25:34 PM

Didn't see the game but looks like a nice day for CONCACAF for once...

11/15/2011 5:30:49 PM

just skimmed through the game... good road result, nice to see some goals

why is lalas so anti-klinnsman? I mean from game 1 he has been on him. It gets really annoying, like he wants him to fail. Have the results been great so far? No, but these things don't happen overnight.

11/15/2011 8:13:49 PM

Cool! Olympic qualifying is being held in the US again. The last time it wasn't, we got our ass kicked. Going to the Olympics wouldn't hurt the development of our younger players.

http://www.concacaf.com/page/MOQ/NewsDetail/0,,12813~2512043,00.html

11/15/2011 8:28:26 PM

^^ Lalas just wants the attention

11/15/2011 9:20:41 PM

Quote :

"why is lalas so anti-klinnsman? I mean from game 1 he has been on him. It gets really annoying, like he wants him to fail."

that's just alexi lalas being himself. he constantly bitches about everything and acts like he's the only one in the world with any clue and everyone else is retarded and needs to be set straight.

11/15/2011 11:03:47 PM

GUISE!!! ALEXI PLAYED FOR PADOVA FOR TWO YEARS! THEY FINISHED 14TH AND 18TH (relegated) WHEN HE WAS THERE. I THINK HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

11/16/2011 2:50:30 AM

if that was directed at me, my post was sarcastic too

They show that fact under his name every damn game

11/16/2011 7:16:18 AM

I WAS ADDING TO THE SARCAS...I MEAN I THOUGHT YOU LOVED AND RESPECTED THE MAN FOR PLAYING HIS HEART OUT IN SERIE A. HE IS A TRUE CHAMPION*






*escaped relegation in a playoff & subsequently got relegated the next year

11/16/2011 3:32:35 PM

haha ok just making sure. but now that you mention it, he SHOULD be able to say whatever the hell he wants, Lalas 4 USSF prez

11/16/2011 4:01:55 PM

^^
You both are idiots. Lalas' Italian experience is extremely overrated. The guy is a hack.

11/16/2011 4:03:25 PM

ok maybe his Italian experience is overrated but you cannot deny the importance of this era




lol, that solo album he released is titled "Ginger"

[Edited on November 16, 2011 at 4:13 PM. Reason : .]

11/16/2011 4:11:31 PM