I def see an improvement with my arms. I have been doing more lifting dealing with my triceps and my arms are making me

7/28/2010 6:30:11 PM

Awesome!!

7/28/2010 6:41:47 PM

Lookin good!

7/28/2010 6:50:20 PM

Lookin Good, Amna!

7/28/2010 7:25:54 PM

who sweats a lot? I've always wondered why i sweat a lot. I consider myself to be in alright shape but in the afternoons when i run it literally looks like i took a shower or got rained on (it is 95 out i guess which contributes to the problem). It's only when i do physical activity. Even working out at the gym doing circuit work i sweat a good bit. I heard it's a good way to get rid of excess sodium. What's everyone's view on this?

7/28/2010 7:30:13 PM

I wonder if we discussed this ON THE PREVIOUS 2 PAGES?

7/28/2010 7:35:08 PM

oh yeah. thanks.

7/28/2010 8:17:54 PM

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"who sweats a lot?"

This guy.

7/28/2010 8:31:42 PM

i'm willing to bet there are more than a few people that haven't actively participated in this thread but have been inspired by you guys to get off their asses. i'm one of them.

after a pretty long period with very minimal physical exercise, in small part because of a busy work schedule but mostly because i'm a lazy lard ass, seeing the progress in this thread pushed me off the couch. i'm still not interested in participating in terms of posting diet, workout schedule, etc, but i did want to stop by and say thanks to all of you.

i feel better (both mentally and physically) and my life is definitely better now than it was before.

THANKS TWW!

7/28/2010 8:47:48 PM

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"I heard it's a good way to get rid of excess sodium. "

Sweating evaporates the water off of your skin, leaving sodium deposits behind on your skin. Yay engineering

For more, read here: http://www.runtheplanet.com/trainingracing/nutrition/salt.asp

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"The average male's body contains about 75,000 milligrams of sodium, the equivalent of eleven tablespoons of salt. When you exercise, you lose some sodium via sweat. The amount you lose depends upon: "

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"How much salt you sweat. Some runners have saltier sweat than other. Salty sweaters tend to end up with a crust of salt on their skin after a hard workout. Other runners, in comparison, have a low sodium content in their sweat - and no white salt stains on their skin or running clothes. The amount of sodium in sweat averages about 500 milligrams sodium per pound of sweat (and ranges from 220 to 1,100 milligrams). If you lose two pounds of sweat per hour for four hours of sweaty running, your sodium losses can become significant (4,000 milligrams of sodium). You should eat salty foods to replace the losses. "

This is actually very interesting for me:

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"During exercise, if excessive water intake dilutes the sodium outside the cells, too much water seeps into cells and they swell, including the cells in the brain. The symptoms progressively appear and the runner feels weak, groggy, nauseous, incoherent, and then may experience stumbling, seizures, coma, and death. Athletes at risk of developing hyponatremia include slow marathoners, triathletes and others who exercise for more than four hours and are highly vigilant about hydration, to the extent they drink more fluid than they lose in sweat."

So not only do I have to worry about getting enough water during my workouts, I have to worry about getting TOO much water. It never ends

7/29/2010 3:46:58 AM

ok, so I'm wondering how many calories packing burns... I've been eating not so well all week (I've been eating out a lot... not all places have been terrible but I certainly haven't been trying to find the healthiest meal possible). Welllll, before I packed my scale up I decided to weigh myself because I felt bloated and I like to do crazy things like make myself feel guilty... it was the exact same as my lowest weight, but I was all bloated feeling. I was all WTF. So anyways, in short, I guess my exercise for the week has been packing?... I ran two days so that also might've helped.

7/29/2010 8:26:25 AM

^^ That's why you get little goo packets and cups of gatorade along with the water at water stations on marathons, etc. Typically on a half, I won't take any water until after mile 6 and then I will drink one cup of gatorade around mile 10 or 11. That way I can replenish some of the lost electrolytes.

I really recommend that you start drinking this:



It's got what athletes crave.

[Edited on July 29, 2010 at 8:27 AM. Reason : ^ pussy control!]

7/29/2010 8:26:34 AM

I guess i typically try to listen to my body about water intake. I never knew the 16 ounce/pound rule but i've sweat 2-3 pounds before and i typically drink a liter or more after a run like that so I guess i'm good. I don't really eat much processed food but i eat lots of bread so i assume i get enough sodium.

7/29/2010 8:43:40 AM

^^^I think you can afford to take a week to just get your shit in order for the move

[Edited on July 29, 2010 at 8:45 AM. Reason : argh]

7/29/2010 8:44:51 AM

Im ready for this to be over

7/29/2010 9:03:29 AM

well I know I'm allowed a week, but I figured since I wasn't working out and not eating that well I'd notice a difference... I guess moving around for 6+ hours this past week has helped

7/29/2010 9:05:39 AM

you're just increasing your N.E.P.A non-exercise physical activity

7/29/2010 9:10:11 AM

haha yup that's one thing I'm so excited about as far as going to school... even though I'll be sitting in class for a few hours a day, I will be walking much, much more to get to classes and such. A lot better than being at a desk for almost 8 hours a day!

7/29/2010 9:28:36 AM

anyone have a favorite site for purchasing protein shakes etc? if you have coupon codes too, that would be the bomb.com

7/29/2010 9:47:47 AM

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"i'm willing to bet there are more than a few people that haven't actively participated in this thread but have been inspired by you guys to get off their asses. i'm one of them."

Signed.

I haven't seen fit to burden everyone's eyes with more pictures of a skinny, semi-fit white guy until I have the end result of the p90x program to show the hopeful significant contrast. More aptly, I know that I can't match the shear awesomeness of punchmonk's progression.

[Edited on July 29, 2010 at 9:57 AM. Reason : Truf]

7/29/2010 9:56:07 AM

dear punchmonk - i'm impressed, you can see the beginnings of definition in your bicep where the shading is going midway through your arm.

7/29/2010 9:58:51 AM

punchmonk is my hero... 4srs people

7/29/2010 10:01:43 AM

I agree, pmonk is doing great!!

7/29/2010 10:04:57 AM

^ doing awesome too

7/29/2010 10:13:17 AM

dear punchmonk,

<4

-Tarun

7/29/2010 10:27:15 AM

that is a lot of encouragement and love. Thanks guise. Women that have had a kid/kids can get in shape too!!

^

LunaK, you def have me beat for the kicking-your-own-ass award.

I would have to say my woman circle of affirmation/inspiration is def LunaK, Samwise16, and skwinkle.

HockeyRoman, you def need to post dem pics.

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"dear punchmonk - i'm impressed, you can see the beginnings of definition in your bicep where the shading is going midway through your arm."

this made me LOL. Thanks, Wadhead1!

7/29/2010 11:19:46 AM

7/29/2010 11:33:38 AM

i was actually being sincere

7/29/2010 11:35:11 AM

I know you were. I was not offended. It just made me LOL.

7/29/2010 11:44:25 AM

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"I haven't seen fit to burden everyone's eyes with more pictures of a skinny, semi-fit white guy until I have the end result of the p90x program"

If youre skinny why waste your time with p90x?

7/29/2010 1:47:48 PM

I think Quinn posts enough pics of semi-fit skinny white guys to meet our quota

7/29/2010 2:48:35 PM

exactly! semi fit skinnysix feet tall people

7/29/2010 3:13:02 PM

Quinn hasn't been white for a while either.

7/29/2010 3:15:09 PM

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"If youre skinny why waste your time with p90x?"

I didn't know that it would be considered a waste of time. The only modification I've have to make is in the diet where I've had to pack on the protein, eat more frequently yet smaller portions. I have actually seen decent results already. What work out routine would you have recommended?

7/29/2010 7:29:02 PM

I believe he means that your time might be better spent on weight training. Really though it depends on your goal.

7/29/2010 8:08:18 PM

i just dont think youre going to get results as easy doing jumping jacks/pushups as you are doing a few compound lifts.

7/29/2010 8:43:16 PM

I am not trying to get huge or anything. I'd like to add some muscle mass and then get it looking nice. Hence the copious amounts of protein. We'll see how these 90 days go. If I don't get the "results that I am looking for" then I have the winter to bulk up if need be with a separate routine.

7/29/2010 9:54:34 PM

if bulking up was so easy you wouldnt be small.

not trying to be mean but i think for a hardgainer or skinny person p90x is just stupid.

[Edited on July 29, 2010 at 10:27 PM. Reason : ]

7/29/2010 10:26:05 PM

p90x is more for the "former high school/college athlete" who stopped physical activity and has been on an accidental bulk ever since they stopped being so active...as in you've got some mass underneath and you'll use p90x to shred and shed. I think it is way too intense to promote an anabolic environment although I think you could make some gains given a caloric surplus at the end of the day.

the only way anyone is going to get huge, who isn't naturally huge, is via steroids and calories. if you're happy with the mass you have now and just want to shed fat, stick with p90x, else I'd drop most cardio intense activity to a few days/wk and lift a few days/wk and just eat healthy and frivolously

7/29/2010 10:33:25 PM

I've always been skinny/active. Ran track in high school along with marching band and ROTC. Played hockey in college, skated most everyday until a few years ago. I had more core definition back then (I also rode my bike 3mi each day to school) and over time just lost a bit of how I was. I feel like I gained a little weight in my midsection but nothing like love handles or a muffintop ( ). I don't mind being lean, I just want what I have to look nice and defined. If there is a better alternative that it easy to follow and something I can do from home, I am open to suggestions.

7/29/2010 11:03:39 PM

I agree with what Quinn and porcha posted, in that the p90x is not geared for someone to gain weight and muscle mass.

However, with HockeyRoman's post^, then I think p90x is right in line with his goals. Not to gain weight or muscle mass, but instead to cut down fat and get shredded. From my understanding, you won't really gain too much muscle, but what you have will get cut and more defined.

Basically, sounds like you want to go from 'skinny and undefined' to 'skinny and cut' with higher definition of muscles. Plus with the fact that p90x can easily be done at home makes it an easy way to attain his goals...even if it is a slight variation of them.

7/30/2010 3:55:11 AM

when I read skinny I didn't think he was looking to lose body fat. Skinny fat is a stupid phrase in my opinion . Ranks up there with 'but he/she can't lift that much' and 'i want to get toned' in stupid gym phrases. If you're over a certain bf as a male youre just not skinny anymore. Doesn't mean you are in bad shape. Someone needs to recreate our species after the next ice age

7/30/2010 8:07:48 AM

Eh, it may not be technically accurate, but it's a good descriptor nonetheless. Last year, I was 5'11 and 160 pounds. I was soft. Had some love handles and a bit of pudge on my belly, but I don't know anyone who would have called me fat. I still wore a 30 inch waist pants and small/medium t-shirts. I was skinny-fat. Now I'm down to a relatively toned 145 lbs and I am legitimately skinny.


[Edited on July 30, 2010 at 8:35 AM. Reason : d]

7/30/2010 8:32:57 AM

maybe its just hard for me to relate . 160lbs sounds like a great weight!

7/30/2010 9:09:18 AM

I'm 6'3 and hover between 210-215 and most people wouldn't call me fat either

7/30/2010 9:23:48 AM

woops, i've already had 1500 calories today

7/30/2010 11:59:15 AM

it happens, ive barely had 400

7/30/2010 12:02:02 PM

i'm at 373 but about to go to lunch

7/30/2010 12:06:28 PM

I was doing good this AM, swam early morning, then had my turkey wrap and some dried fruit.

Then I found the leftover pizza from Costco

7/30/2010 12:07:42 PM

still at 0


bout to go workout

7/30/2010 12:14:47 PM