they entry was nearly identical if not 100% when they were walking in bc they kept switching from the monitors to a view of the swat team in the actual house.

11/4/2005 4:34:54 PM

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"their"

11/4/2005 6:09:01 PM

omg how clever, you caught a mistake on the internet while someone was typing. you my friend are oh-so whitty.

11/4/2005 6:15:09 PM

its just my worst pet peeve ever...its not that hard people!

11/4/2005 8:36:03 PM

i mistyped in my first post b/c i changed the sentence, agreed, but if you are commenting on the one directly prior to the yours it makes no sense at all in relation to your pet peeve as i used a completely different word.

if people do it constantly you can whine and bitch, but one mispelling isnt indicative of someone misunderstanding the uses of their/there/they're.

my pet peeve is grammar nazis who 1) only post their comments on grammar and add nothing to the thread, and 2) comment on one usage as opposed to a running theme.

so can we get back to saw2 then?

[Edited on November 4, 2005 at 8:46 PM. Reason : OMGZ IT IS IT'S IN YOUR SENTENCE NOT ITS]

11/4/2005 8:45:12 PM

^You aren't capitalizing the beginning of your sentences.

11/4/2005 9:02:13 PM

about all this talk about Obi and the knob inside the furnace, when they all walked down stairs, didnt someone grab a knob and then throw it down on the floor or something? i seem to remember soemthing like that.

anyways, i enjoyed this one more than the first one. i found myself laughing out loud at a few parts, some of the gory parts, of course i was the only one in the theater doing so.

11/5/2005 10:48:32 PM

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"we know that jigsaw treats people differently, dr gordon gets the shaft in SAW I, but adam basicaly was given the chance to unlock himself and walk out."

I don't think so. How was Adam supposed to know or figure out that his key was in the bathtub? Of course there could've been more clues in the room that we didn't see.

11/5/2005 11:12:31 PM

saw it tonight and really liked it, great movie

11/6/2005 12:22:24 AM

well....^^....all he had to do was stay alive. most people would murder adam.

it was only by chance that there dr gordon was driven crazy by the conflicts hear over the cell.

[Edited on November 6, 2005 at 3:41 AM. Reason : -]

11/6/2005 3:29:23 AM

So the plan was for Jigsaw to wait until 6:00, and if Adam was still alive tell him where the key is?

I also thought that the key went down the drain when Adam emptied the tub in the beginning. So he was pretty much SOL when Jigsaw left the room.

11/6/2005 9:06:43 AM

Y'all did see the body still on the chain in the room at the end of saw 2, right?

11/6/2005 12:27:45 PM

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"most people would murder adam. "

wouldnt

i mean

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"I also thought that the key went down the drain when Adam emptied the tub in the beginning. So he was pretty much SOL when Jigsaw left the room."

the key was on a metal chain attatched to the drain plug. he was never SOL.

[Edited on November 6, 2005 at 1:08 PM. Reason : -]

11/6/2005 1:07:12 PM

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"the key was on a metal chain attatched to the drain plug. he was never SOL."

if the key was attached to the plug, why didn't he notice it when he used it to get the tape player?

11/6/2005 1:35:41 PM

it wasn't attached to the plug, it was floating in the bathtub. When his leg caught the chain and pulled it out, the key was lost forever, which is why his dead body is sitting, still chained to the pipe at the end of saw 2

11/6/2005 4:26:02 PM

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"the key to that chain is in the bath tub"

youre right...i think i misread things. ^thats the quote at the end of the movie. i just rewatched all the parts with the key.

it doesnt make sense...why put the key there if its intended to not be accessable....just by chance it went down the drain? there was a light on it too, a small LED...which is odd

so...youre saying jigsaw meant for adam to find the key and free himself. that kinda makes the game impossible for dr gordon, dont you think? he would find the key with lights out, then just walk out and leave.

maybe the key was meant to fall down the drain, but still be retrievable...i dont know how...it could be possible. there may be other clues around.

was adam meant to use the drain plug as a tool, thus screwing himself? it just seems weird. usually you get a warning before you screw yourself.

[Edited on November 6, 2005 at 5:18 PM. Reason : -]

11/6/2005 5:15:11 PM

^ hey coming up with these elaborate death schemes and clues isnt easy. give poor jigsaw a break

11/6/2005 5:37:44 PM

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"was adam meant to use the drain plug as a tool, thus screwing himself? it just seems weird. usually you get a warning before you screw yourself."

that's how I saw it, but I don't get the LED. I guess that's just for a movie effect. To reach the tape player, he HAD to use the drain plug. The g/f thought that the plug was tied to his foot, so when he moved it pulled, but the way it looks his foot is just caught in it when he starts flailing

11/6/2005 5:38:32 PM

Okay here's a theory. I think it's safe to say that the key did not go down the drain when Adam emptied the tub. If it did then Adam would be completely screwed, and that's not how Jigsaw works. Maybe the key was attached to something so that it wouldn't fall all the way down the drain. And in the end when Jigsaw turns out the lights, it was for Adam to see the light on the key. There was a light on it for some reason, and we know that everything in the room is planned.

Then again, we know that Adam died so either the key was gone, or it was there and Adam was too freaked out to find it.

11/6/2005 6:36:07 PM

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"but the way it looks his foot is just caught in it when he starts flailing "

^ we saw adam's body chained? i only remember zerp's body and gordon's foot.

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"but the way it looks his foot is just caught in it when he starts flailing "

yea..that is what it looks like. but i think nerdchick has picked up my point. something doesnt fit. jigsaw knows his puzzle like the back of his hand...there must have been a way to get that key

11/6/2005 6:53:36 PM

I remember seeing Adam in the room at the end of Saw II, although I could be mistaken

I might see it again, if I do I will pay closer attention

11/6/2005 7:30:49 PM

SAW I

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"Funny: Tobin Bell lay on the bathroom floor, perfectly still, for six days. He was not replaced with a dummy because the filmmakers could not afford one."

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"Factual errors: After the doctor speaks on the cell phone for the first time and the line goes dead, there is a dial tone. There is no dial tone on a cell phone."

on another note;

jigsaw

i just realized that.

also; its thought that the saw series will still go on after SAWIII, but jigsaw last movie will be III




regarding chickhead's informant theory

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"II- In SAW II Amanda finding the tape recorder and knowing the game does not foreshadow anything. She was the informant for the group as Dr. Gordon was the informant for Adam. Amanda has had contact with the police concerning Jigsaw in the first movie, thus allowing her information on his previous games, since she herself was part of his games. Even though she had a video in her game, this contact with the police would provide her with the knowledge of the tape recorder. "

[Edited on November 6, 2005 at 8:26 PM. Reason : -]

11/6/2005 8:00:50 PM

i figured the whole amanda tape thing was them just making it REALLY convenient for her since she had played before. only when other things started happening was it really obvious that somethignw as fishy (ie her never coughing).

11/6/2005 10:01:53 PM

i thought saw II was boring. too much chasing around the house and not enough games

11/6/2005 10:08:21 PM

in contrast, i felt like the games actually were tied together this time. in the first it seemed almsot dijointed.

11/6/2005 10:28:47 PM

^^ So saw 2 was boring with people running around a house and encountering traps, as opposed to two guys chilling in one room just talking about things that have been going on before

11/7/2005 12:51:45 AM

i havenmt seen SAWI in a while but for some reason i thought i rember Jigsaw shooting someone(i was thinking it was Dr. Gordon) either right before he entered the room or right after he left it at the very end. can someone please confirm/deny this?

11/7/2005 9:12:29 AM

^adam reaches for a gun right after gigsaw tells us the key is in the bathtub. there is a flashback to the key going down the drain. adam reaches for the gun. he gets stunned. jigsaw closes the door for adam.

the end. (so, no)

[Edited on November 7, 2005 at 9:30 AM. Reason : -]

11/7/2005 9:30:17 AM

how did the cop that figured out where adam and gordon were cought were at die?i coulda sworn saw shot him or somthing

this iss gonna piss me off so i htink i am gonna have to go download i mean borrow it

11/7/2005 9:50:41 AM

zap shot him in a little scuffle, remember? Glover had the gun against zap and zap dropped to his knees and glover was shot in the chest

therefore no one ever found the room

11/7/2005 9:52:12 AM

^^ the UNcut torrent version is well seeded

grab it. the only diff is that the uncut NC17 version has a 16 seconds more of amanda sifting thru pig intestines and a longer shot of the leg sawing

11/7/2005 10:19:09 AM

why has this turned back into a saw 1 discussion?

11/7/2005 11:10:56 AM

becuase SAW II is the sequel to SAW I

[Edited on November 7, 2005 at 11:13 AM. Reason : -]

11/7/2005 11:12:56 AM

i was very very disappointed in this movie as a whole

the lazy, condensed ending was a massive let down

i give it maybe 2 stars

11/7/2005 1:26:53 PM

See, that's everyones problem. When you see a movie, and are impressed with it (the crazy twist, the new approach, the new concepts, whatever that movie has going for it), the people expect the sequel to give them that and more. I knew going into this movie there was no way I would be as shocked as I was at the end of Saw I. No matter how clever the twist, I admit I was sitting there the whole movie seeing if I could catch something I wasn't supposed to, or see if someone looked like they knew something they shouldn't. Granted, I did not see it coming that she was part of the puzzle this time. But I went into the movie expecting to be entertained, nothing more. And I came out very satisfied, and will probably see it again this weekend with another group of friends.

11/7/2005 2:16:27 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051206/ap_en_mo/obit_hoffman

12/6/2005 9:47:12 AM

movie sucks

12/6/2005 10:20:15 AM

^^jigsaw did it!!!!

("game over")

12/6/2005 11:54:16 AM

damn that sucks

hopefully this doesnt throw a wrench into the release of Saw 3

12/6/2005 11:58:13 AM

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!


he was the brain child of this whole thing

12/6/2005 11:58:19 AM

yep, saw 3 is going to suck a ton now

12/6/2005 7:10:53 PM