I think it would be strange to see Roger back with the Red Sox, but I wouldn't mind seeing it since it'd help the Sox beat the Yanks.

In other news - it looks like Matt Morris is going to sign with the Giants for 3 years at ~ $8 million per.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5158984

12/12/2005 12:00:53 PM

Morris leaving is sad, but Reyes needs a shot in the rotation. Morris is going back to be with longtime friend Mike Matheny.

[Edited on December 12, 2005 at 12:20 PM. Reason : .]

12/12/2005 12:20:22 PM

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=372021&page=1


scroll to the pic and my comment

12/12/2005 2:58:39 PM

hahahaha nice

12/12/2005 2:59:35 PM

Quote :

"LOS ANGELES--MLB officials and players expressed shock today upon hearing that Peter Gammons, one of the most respected sports journalists in the country, was arrested Thursday night in California with a loaded 9 mm handgun and a half pound of hydroponic marijuana. The arrest occurred around midnight when Gammons’ SUV was pulled over by a state trooper after running a red light. Gammons issued an apology to the league, to his employers, and to his fans. But the incident left more than a few people shaking their heads. “Wow. Of all people to get caught with a gun and drugs, Peter Gammons is the last person I’d expect,” said one official, speaking anonymously. “I mean I could see Frank Deford, but Peter Gammons? No way” According to police, Gammons was pulled over in his Cadillac Escalade late last night in Compton, a poor section of Los Angeles known for its drugs and high crime rate. He was belligerent and clearly intoxicated, and allegedly spit at the arresting officer after he was placed in handcuffs. The mug shot shows a pale, gaunt Gammons with bags under his eyes and a cut lip. According to witnesses, Gammons started out the evening at The Crib, a hip-hop nightclub in LA notorious for its frequent violence and gang activity. While there, Gammons and members of his entourage got into a heated exchange with another group of people. The two groups had confronted each other before, and it is believed that this was the continuation of an ongoing feud. After some pushing and shoving, Gammons allegedly produced his handgun, causing a huge commotion in the club as people scrambled for the exits. In the confusion, Gammons and his entourage exited the club and drove off in his Escalade. “This is something we’ve seen before,” said bouncer Ray Coughlin. “Gammons and his posse are always trying to stir things up here, and this turf war has been going on for a while. Last time, he pulled a knife on the guy, started yelling and screaming and made a big scene before he was dragged out by a bunch of bouncers. I don’t even know how he got back in here. He’s been banned from this place more than once.” After they left the club, Gammons and his posse traveled to Compton to meet some friends and allegedly participate in a drug deal. “Pete knew a guy in Compton who had some kick ass hydro,” said a source close to the Gammons family. “And when Pete starts fiending for the weed, there’s no stopping him.” The drug deal took place at a housing project in Compton where well known drug dealer James “Dr. Chronic” McKay resides. Gammons and Dr. Chronic have had a long-standing relationship based on the age-old principles of supply and demand. This time he left with two pounds of “hydroponic” marijuana, which is marijuana grown in water to increase its potency. Gammons and his posse sped off in his Escalade and went on a 30-minute “high ride” through LA in which they proceeded to “fishbowl” the SUV. The term “fishbowl” refers to the act of filling the interior of a vehicle or room with marijuana smoke to the point where it is impossible to breathe without inhaling toxic marijuana smoke into the lungs. Said arresting officer Mark Bryant: “I’ve never seen so much smoke in my life. As soon as they opened the door, it just came pouring out of the vehicle like a tidal wave. I almost fell over. Mr. Gammons wasn’t fazed though. He didn’t even look stoned.” Gammons, dressed in dark sunglasses, a red do-rag, baggy jeans, and work boots, casually stepped out of the vehicle and began hurling expletives at the arresting officer. “He started saying stuff like ‘Do you know who the (expletive) I am? Do you know who I am, punk? I’m Peter (expletive) Gammons. I make more in a month then you make all year.’ Just stuff like that,” said Bryant. “Real condescending and belligerent. His friends were quiet. I think they were a little scared. But Pete was being a showoff. He wanted to show that he was a big man, that he wasn't scared.” Gammons was then ordered up against the car where he was frisked and handcuffed. A 9mm gun was confiscated from his waist, along with drug paraphernalia. As he was being led to the cruiser, he allegedly spit at Officer Bryant, calling him “punk ass muthafucka” and “pig”. It is not known what charges will be filed against Gammons. But drug, weapons, and resisting arrest charges are almost a certainty. His future with ESPN is seriously in doubt, although the station has come out in support of Gammons for the time being. “We here at ESPN support Peter Gammons during this difficult time,” the station stated in a press release. “We do not have all the facts yet, and will reserve judgment until the justice system has run its course. In the meantime check out Tim Kurkjian, drug free since 1998. ”"

12/12/2005 3:01:59 PM

haha, would kick ass if true

12/12/2005 3:03:06 PM

P.Diddy Gammons chillin by the pool

http://media.spikedhumor.com/8783/ja02.jpg

[Edited on December 12, 2005 at 3:12 PM. Reason : d]

12/12/2005 3:03:43 PM

Do you know who I am? I'm Peter FUCKING Gammons!

haha.. ok back on topic.

[Edited on December 12, 2005 at 3:04 PM. Reason : ^ get that shit out of here. People are at work damn it.]

12/12/2005 3:04:33 PM

its just P. Gamms chilling by the pool

12/12/2005 3:11:21 PM

is that better?

12/12/2005 3:12:34 PM

nomah to the yanks?!?!

http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees/58605.htm

12/13/2005 11:13:13 AM

That actually works pretty well for the Yanks. Getting him to play first is the best idea.

Even if he gets injured as he has done a few times, they'll just go back to Giambi/Phillips as DH/1B. He is surely better defensively than Giambi, and we'd get a better bat than Phillips without sacrificing defense at 1B.

Who knows. Interesting idea though.

12/13/2005 11:17:33 AM

They need to trade Cano in a package for Tejada and have him play 2B.
That way they can have an all All Star SS infield.

12/13/2005 11:21:02 AM

the only way the O's trade Tejada is if they offer up something baltimore just can't refuse


i dunno if the mets are willing to give that much.

12/13/2005 8:55:08 PM

Milton Bradley/Antonio Perez to Oakland for Andre Ethier (texas league PoY)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/baseball/mlb/12/13/bradley.athletics.ap/index.html

something tells me Billy swung this deal to get Perez, not Bradley.

12/13/2005 10:36:37 PM

El Duque/Young (White Sox prospect) for Vasquez (Arizona)

Wow.

12/14/2005 3:44:54 AM

The White Sox traded a crappy SP (Hernandez) for a decent one (Vazquez), thus freeing up some room to trade a SP.

Garland + Uribe for Tejada, maybe. Or free up $$ for Damon. Stay tuned.

[Edited on December 14, 2005 at 4:11 AM. Reason : .]

12/14/2005 4:01:42 AM

12/14/2005 11:14:47 AM

Quote :

"The White Sox traded a crappy SP (Hernandez) for a decent one (Vazquez), thus freeing up some room to trade a SP. Garland + Uribe for Tejada, maybe. Or free up $$ for Damon. Stay tuned."

The White Sox certainly did not do this trade to free up money. Vazquez is owed something like 12 mil next year and 13 mil the following. El Duque was making about 5 mil and the other two guys in the trade were probably making maybe 1 mil combined. Thus they're in the hole about 6 mil atleast.

I think it's a steal talent wise. El Duque was horrible last year and Luis Viscaino was a decent reliever, but Vazquez is a pretty good number 2 or 3 pitcher. Good trade for the Sox.

[Edited on December 14, 2005 at 12:14 PM. Reason : re]

12/14/2005 12:13:25 PM

Ive seen Vazquez pitch a LOT with the Yankees, and I watched several times last year with the diamondbacks.

He absolutely will never do well in the American League. He will have his good games, but he gets the ball up too much and will always throw a lot of homeruns.

Next year Vazquez will go 13-11 with a 5.10 ERA

12/14/2005 1:53:05 PM

Where do you guys think Roger will end up?

From what I gather there are 5 possibilities.

1) Retires.
2) Yankees
3) Red Sox
4) Re up with Houston after May 1st (probably most likely IMO).
5) Mets <-- far fetched but Omar said he was at the very least interested.

12/15/2005 9:30:31 AM

I think he retires... it's the right move. He was arguably the best pitcher in baseball last year and he should quit while he's on top.

12/15/2005 9:44:45 AM

my money is on 1. or 4.

I want him to finish up his career in boston where it started. He only needs one more win with the sox to be their all-time leader in wins, he's currently tied with cy young for 192. Why not win a cy young, beat out the man who its named after, and finish your grand career where it started? Come one roger, lets win a championship with the sox!

12/15/2005 9:48:35 AM

1. sox
2. astros
3. retire
4. yankees
nowayinfuckinghell. mets

heading back to the astros might make the most sense, he'll only be able to pitch half a season or so which means he'll be 100x more effective in september and october. not that it'll matter if the astros don't get some offense

12/15/2005 10:28:33 AM

I really don't see Clemens playing for the Sox or Yanks because of his desire to be at all of his son's sporting events. He'd have to sign a contract similar to the one he had with the Astros concering his road games that also applied to home games (i.e. He doesn't have to be there unless he's pitching). If he gets that, then I could see him back in the Northeast. Otherwise only the Astros or Rangers make sense.

12/15/2005 11:29:05 AM

Quote :

"The White Sox certainly did not do this trade to free up money. Vazquez is owed something like 12 mil next year and 13 mil the following. El Duque was making about 5 mil and the other two guys in the trade were probably making maybe 1 mil combined. Thus they're in the hole about 6 mil atleast."

The Yankees agreed to pay something like 4-5$ of his contract when they traded him, which Arizona has transferred to the Sox. The idea for "freeing up the money" was the fact that now the Sox can seriously unload one of their starting pitchers and start rookie Brandon McCarthy, as El Duque wasn't considered too marketable. It's probably less of a "freeing up the money" matter than I thought, you are right. Regardless, there is talk of trading Jon Garland, who didn't sign a contract extension with the Sox and has one year left on his contract.

[Edited on December 15, 2005 at 12:44 PM. Reason : w/w]

12/15/2005 12:42:21 PM

^ I think the Sox should move Garland to a team that will overpay for him and start McCarthy. McCarthy was pretty lights out down the stretch and Garland could just be a flash in the pan. They should move him to one of the irresponsible teams that always overpay for FAs like the Yanks, Mess, Tigers, Rangers, Dodgers, etc.

The Sox are in a great position right now with their SPs.

12/15/2005 12:46:31 PM

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[Edited on December 15, 2005 at 12:47 PM. Reason : ...]

12/15/2005 12:46:55 PM

Clemens will NOT go to the Sox, or as much as I would love to see it, the Yankees.

The ONLY reason he signed in Houston was to be closer to home. He never wanted to leave the Yankees in the first place, but did to be closer to home.

He is going to pitch in the WBC and then retire.

12/15/2005 1:03:28 PM

^ I agree. The last thing he wants to do is move his family, it seems.

12/15/2005 1:58:57 PM

Cards signed Braden Looper for 3 years..

hahahahahha.. schmucks..

12/15/2005 8:58:33 PM

HOT NEWS: Just heard about this recently, it seems that scientists (and rational people everywhere) have concluded that the world does not orbit Shea Stadium! I know, I know, it is hard to believe but this is just the latest rumor that has begun to swirl around the baseball world lately.

12/16/2005 10:30:12 AM

Yea it orbits around the triangle that connects Fenway, Shea, and Yankee Stadium. The homes of the only 3 baseball teams that really matter in the grand scheme of things.

12/16/2005 10:38:40 AM

haha oh yeah because the Mets have been so prominent in the MLB lately -- but gg on posting stuff, I can deal with your Mets obsession when you post actual information and sweet websites like the metsblog.com

12/16/2005 10:47:52 AM

I'm just kidding, ya know. You do have some nice info and I def. check this board frequently. GG

12/16/2005 11:07:11 AM

Quote :

"Yea it orbits around the triangle that connects Fenway, Shea, and Yankee Stadium. The homes of the only 3 baseball teams that really matter in the grand scheme of things."

That is a wonderful joke. Pretending the Mess are somehow important on a national level. The only people who give a damn about the Mess are in the Northeast or are Northeasterners that have moved to the South. The Braves or Dodgers are much more important in the grand scheme of baseball because they represent entire regions. The Braves with the South and the Dodgers with the West. The rest of the teams in the South have no fan base (devil rays and marlins) and in the West the other teams (A's, D-backs, Angels, Mariners, Padres) have little or no history (maybe the A's have a little as a franchise).

[Edited on December 16, 2005 at 11:12 AM. Reason : d]

12/16/2005 11:12:03 AM

actually forget it.. this isn't what this thread is for.

[Edited on December 16, 2005 at 11:19 AM. Reason : joke anyway. but no one with a brain would think the Braves have a better fanbase.]

12/16/2005 11:16:53 AM

The Cubs are more prominent than the Mets.

12/16/2005 11:26:12 AM

Agreed. Nationally at least.. What I said was obviously a joke anyhow.

Cubs fans are a different breed though. They seem to never show displeasure no matter how bad it gets. Red Sox fans, although also with a history of losing, are not afraid to let the players and coaches know how they feel. Cubs fans though, not so much.

12/16/2005 11:33:09 AM

^^^ I think the Braves do have a better fan base than the Mets when you consider how many people consider the Braves their favorite team (based off of the surveys by major league baseball when fans vote for the all stars). Just because those same fans do not show up at the games (the reasons why is a whole topic in itself), does not mean the Braves are not important on a national level.

I agree about the Cubs too. They along with the Red Sox, and Yankees are the most prominent teams on a national level.

As for the Looper signing - he may make a decent setup man to Izzy, but I hope he sucks monkey balls.

[Edited on December 16, 2005 at 11:51 AM. Reason : y]

12/16/2005 11:50:54 AM

I've always thought of them as a very regional team. Lets face it there aren't Southeast 'transplants' all around the country like there are New Yorkers. In the late 90's when the Mets-Braves rivalry was at its height there were always 15-20,000 Mets fans in the Ted for the big games. In fact, Skip Caray spoke about that in 2004 saying how he misses the days when Mets fans used to pack out Turner when they were good.

I know that the Braves have a ton of fans (who like you said don't show up for games for a multitude of reasons) in this region. However, nationally, no matter what ballpark you go to you are liable to hear a VERY distinguishable 'Lets Go Mets' chant. The Mets announcers were remarking how Phoenix (an area which is NOT known for NY transplants like .. say Florida) was half Mets fans last year even..

V haha yea. That 2B/1B side of the infield is gonna be tough to fit in the graphic for defensive positions every game..

[Edited on December 16, 2005 at 12:03 PM. Reason : f]

12/16/2005 12:01:25 PM

Royals signed Grudzielanek, Elarton, and Mientkiewicz.

I guess they went after guys with weird names. Atleast they are trying - poor Royals.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5173210

12/16/2005 12:02:12 PM

Quote :

"I've always thought of them as a very regional team. Lets face it there aren't Southeast 'transplants' all around the country like there are New Yorkers. In the late 90's when the Mets-Braves rivalry was at its height there were always 15-20,000 Mets fans in the Ted for the big games. In fact, Skip Caray spoke about that in 2004 saying how he misses the days when Mets fans used to pack out Turner when they were good. I know that the Braves have a ton of fans (who like you said don't show up for games for a multitude of reasons) in this region. However, nationally, no matter what ballpark you go to you are liable to hear a VERY distinguishable 'Lets Go Mets' chant. The Mets announcers were remarking how Phoenix (an area which is NOT known for NY transplants like .. say Florida) was half Mets fans last year even.."

I agree with that Mets fans (Cubs fans too) are good fans and are vocal about their team. Braves fans are not. Braves fans just sit at home and watch TBS, myself included. I also agree that the there are alot of NY transplants and they support when their team is in town. I still don't think the national audience is concerned with the Mets as much as they are the Yanks or Red Sox. I kind of think of it in the same way that NC State gets no attention while UNC and Duke are national. The Mets have some good history (i.e. the 69 team and the 86 team) just like State, but all anyone ever hears about is the Sox and Yanks. Even though the Mets and even the Braves have much better histories than the Sox.

12/16/2005 12:08:16 PM

i read about half of this argument and i don't know much about mets fans other than they're all assholes

but i admit the braves don't have the most loyal of fanbases

they definitely have one of the largest though, no doubt

but who gives a fuck, the fans aren't the ones playing

i don't care if i'm the only braves fan in the world, i love them




[Edited on December 16, 2005 at 12:24 PM. Reason : ]

12/16/2005 12:23:40 PM

nomar signed with the Dodgers

12/18/2005 10:12:10 AM

Kenny Lofton to the Dodgers today. ESPN reporting Millwood looking at the Rangers. That would give them ONE good starter.

And what about the Cardinals? Most loyal fans in baseball regardless what anyone on TWW says.

12/20/2005 2:48:55 PM

The dodgers are signing everyone, but I think their best move was to get rid of Milton Bradley. Man I hate that mother fucker.

In other news, the Mariners signed Washburn and Adam Eaton was traded from the Padres to the Rangers along with a bunch of other players.

Oh yeah and Pedro's toe is still hurting - I hope he gets his foot amputated. Maybe he can call Shaq and they can go to toe therapy together.

12/20/2005 3:28:22 PM

The Dallas Morning News reports that the Rangers have traded 1B Adrian Gonzalez, RHP Chris Young and newly acquired OF Terrmel Sledge to San Diego for RHP Akinori Otsuka and RHP Adam Eaton…

there is the exact trade. Nice for both sides.

^ I think that has more to do with an excuse to miss the WBC frankly. He knows his arm isn't as durable as it once was and his team needs him. Look for him to be 100% opening day.

[Edited on December 20, 2005 at 3:29 PM. Reason : f]

12/20/2005 3:28:52 PM

actually the exact trade would include SD prospect billy killian going to the rangers as well.

12/20/2005 5:39:47 PM

^^ I think the Padres made out pretty well because Chris Young looked pretty solid at times last year and Gonzalez was a big time prospect just a year ago. Eaton is kind of hit or miss and Otsuka is a pretty solid refief man, but I'd take the younger guys. Plus Sledge is a good fourth OF because of his defense and speed.

12/20/2005 5:45:41 PM