skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
pistons are good 5/7/2006 4:08:09 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, they're starting to get their rhythm back now.
They looked pretty ugly at the beginning of the last series, but it's all gelling again. 5/7/2006 4:09:01 PM |
J_Hova All American 30984 Posts user info edit post |
nice 5/7/2006 4:25:48 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
pistons are not joking about shooting 3s 5/7/2006 4:37:07 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
lindsey fuckin hunter 5/7/2006 4:46:55 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
It's like every player on the pistons is JJ redick. 5/7/2006 4:47:42 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
stack had the baseline, you guys are crazy
he fucked up 5/7/2006 4:55:40 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
i put $100 on the Pistons today -9.5
I sold at halftime for $172 though... didnt wanna get greedy over the last $28
Lebron cant beat this team singlehandedly, no way 5/7/2006 5:10:13 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
can the cavs jsut forfeit? there is no point in continuing 5/7/2006 5:32:34 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
its all Lowe's doing 5/7/2006 5:34:33 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
GODDAMN Wallace is still nasty. 5/7/2006 5:38:20 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
pistons wont be stopped 5/7/2006 5:43:24 PM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
anyone catch the free publicity for state/lowe at the end of the game. 5/7/2006 6:10:51 PM |
bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
^ i fell asleep during the game waiting and hoping they would mention the hire, i knew they would and I missed it. 5/7/2006 6:20:55 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i caught it, they mentioned Monty Towe's name too.
I just put $100 on the Clippers at +200.
I really can't see Phoenix beating LAC the more i think about it and +200 is downright absurd.
So if you're looking to triple your money in the next 2 weeks, I just told you how to do it.
[Edited on May 7, 2006 at 7:34 PM. Reason : a] 5/7/2006 7:33:44 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
ahaha antonio mcnugget 5/8/2006 12:44:14 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
I'm tellling you guys. It's not everyday you find a team at approximately +200 that SHOULD be favored. Don't hold back on this one.
Look at this thing rationally.
LAL had Phoenix's back against the wall. They absolutely destroyed the Suns down low with Kwame and Odom. Expect the Clippers to do the same with Brand & Kaman.
The difference is that the Lakers had absolutely no perimeter shooting to make Phoenix pay for collapsing down low. The Clippers have plenty of shooting with Radmanovic, Mobley, and Maggette.
Nash really did whatever the hell he wanted to against the Lakers on offense. He'll probably fair pretty well vs the Clippers too. But Nash is a total defensive liability and he can't really guard anyone. Luckily for him, he didn't have to because Smush Parker was so atrocious. Sam Cassell isn't going to have any of that. Cassell is a playoff warrior and he's gonna average 20ppg, book it. His specialty is mid-range jumpers and he's going to be able to get those anytime he wants them.
The Clippers are hungry. Not only has this franchise always sucked, but most of these players have been on a lot of losing teams. Phoenix is tired. Diaw wasn't the same player against the Lakers and Marion struggled a lot (though some of that was b/c Odom was a tough matchup for him).
The only real problem I see in this series for the Clippers is going to be Radmanovic & Kaman's inability to guard the pick & rolls. They are both a step slow and Nash is going to use whoever they are guarding to run those plays...
I'm calling Clippers in 6. 5/8/2006 1:27:45 PM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
awe......sowwy bout the lakers....they shouldn't have even made it 7 5/8/2006 3:58:47 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
talking to me? I dont like the Lakers at all...
Quote : | " Pistons (5 games) CORRECT Heat (6 games) CORRECT Nets (6 games) CORRECT Cavs (5 games) Off by one game
Spurs (5 games) Off by one game Suns (6 games) Off by one game Nuggets (7 games) I'm an idiot. Blinded by a bet i made at the all-star break. Mavs (5 games) I gave the Grizz too much credit, off by one game " |
Pretty good start....
2nd round i had
Quote : | " Pistons (5 games), Heat (7 games), Spurs (7 games), Suns (6 games) " |
That looks solid to me, except for the Suns pick which after seeing them against the Lakers Im not confident in.5/8/2006 6:18:40 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
guys
rally knows the NBA
its the college game he is sorely lacking on
5/8/2006 7:29:32 PM |
SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i find myself pulling for the clippers" |
5/8/2006 8:55:33 PM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
rally no...That is for superdude...although I like his + attitude......and Lokken, Rally picking the NBA now is like knowing that a quarter will flip heads or tails....come on 5/8/2006 10:56:13 PM |
spro All American 4329 Posts user info edit post |
lol awesome - paul silas is espn's nba analyst on sportscenter, can't believe i haven't seen this before now... shouldn't have quit his day job
didn't really see 100-88 nets beatdown of miami coming tonight either 5/8/2006 11:07:06 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
^^ speak.......english......you....fuck.....ing.......dumb........assss 5/8/2006 11:13:35 PM |
SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
CASSELL IS ON FIYURE 5/9/2006 12:26:39 AM |
fiveeight8 All American 1353 Posts user info edit post |
No, Elton Brand is en fuego. He's playing lights out. 5/9/2006 12:49:21 AM |
padowack Suspended 1255 Posts user info edit post |
Nash= unstopable
MVP none other 5/9/2006 1:20:36 AM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Good game, everything was going according to plan for the Clippers until:
1) two mystery travel violations on Brand & Maggette.
2) Dunleavy coached them out of the game by removing Cassell for too long and taking out Brand when it was 101-101 (2 minutes later it was 112-103). Oh and by not realizing Kaman is getting them KILLED and they need to go with Radmanovic
3) Phoenix started shooting lights out 5/9/2006 1:22:50 AM |
padowack Suspended 1255 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, the clips ran with them for a while. i was impressed. i just cant stop thinkn' about how we shit would be with stoudie in.
not sayin that the clips cant run the floor. but, they almost won the "shootout" so to speak.
[Edited on May 9, 2006 at 1:25 AM. Reason : .] 5/9/2006 1:24:26 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
wow the nba really doesnt have any defense at all when the LOSING team shoots about 60% from the floor 5/9/2006 1:25:28 AM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
well Phoenix cant defend the interior because their two best big men are hurt.
It's kinda unfair to rail them for losing the best big man in basketball and their best defensive player don't you think?
The Clips just werent ready to defend the pick & roll. Kaman gave up nearly 50 points himself on those switches and slow rotations. The Suns shot LIGHTS out from the 3pt line.
Basketball is an offensive sport.
If Barbosa, Corey Maggette, etc get an ounce of daylight they are scoring and that's that.
You are just confusing the lack of offense in college basketball for a lack of defense in the NBA. The NBA plays WAY better defense than college teams do. 5/9/2006 1:29:16 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
i dont know if i buy that 5/9/2006 1:31:54 AM |
padowack Suspended 1255 Posts user info edit post |
agreed. defense is played in the nba, its just that guys have better shot selection and are better at finding/creating open spots on the floor. 5/9/2006 1:34:17 AM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
i'd say most players in the nba have at least 1 shot that cannot be stopped by 1 or even 2 defenders. the majority of college players have not yet developed this shot. 5/9/2006 1:48:57 AM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
when Steve Nash runs a pick and roll with Diaw or Marion what exactly do you do on defense?
How the hell is your PF or C supposed to get a hand in Nash's face AND keep him from driving by and scoring or dishing to a cutting swingman who is now being guarded by your point guard?
If you rotate another guy over he's just gonna throw it in the corner to an open Raja Bell who is gonna nail a three.
It's almost impossible to defend. You just do the best you can and hope you can outscore them on the other end.
I mean if Engin Atsur could actually complete his drives to the basket, Simmons could catch the ball on pick and rolls, or Brackman could hit the three then we'd be pretty damn tough to defend too.
But those guys cant do those things...
Nash, Diaw, and Bell can.
[Edited on May 9, 2006 at 1:56 AM. Reason : a] 5/9/2006 1:55:38 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
think about how good hodge was at scoring in college
now think about the fact that he cant even crack the 10 man rotation of a shoddy playoff team
that will helt to illustrate the point 5/9/2006 2:01:57 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
im pretty sure when they interviewed sam cassell, he said the reason they lost (despite shooting almost 60% and Elton Brand scoring 40 pts) was because they didnt play defense 5/9/2006 2:04:39 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
well just b/c the defense was bad that night doesnt mean it is bad a whole in the nba
and it also doesnt mean that a bad nba d isnt better than a good college d
and the suns are known as a bad D team so i wont attempt to argue that. 5/9/2006 2:06:08 AM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
right, NBA players are just elite.
Your rec league coach probably told you basketball was a defensive sport.
And he was right, for 8 year olds it is. Because an 8 year old cant nail every jump shot or drive to the hoop with authority.
In high school you can move your feet and get a hand up and stop most people.
I mean I'm 23, have bad knees, and no discernable leg strength but in a 1-1 or 2-2 game you aren't gonna stop me from scoring all over you unless you're 6'2+ and quick.
Now imagine that my shooting/scoring ability is 1/50th of a guy like Corey Maggette (who isnt even really a household name).
Barbosa is faster than many wild animals.
There's only so much you can do.
You can get a hand up, but Ray Allen is still going to nail threes. Elton Brand is still going to hit 10 footers.
You play for steals, you box out, you get a hand up, you rotate defensively, you double team mismatches, and you try to alter shots.
Shane Battier was a defensive standout in college and he's pretty run of the mill defensively in the NBA. You cant just draw charges when Vince Carter is 42 inches off the ground and he teleported from the 3-pt line to the basket in one dribble and 2 steps. 5/9/2006 2:08:47 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
i didnt really have a main point
i just thought it was crazy how well the clippers shot and still lost 5/9/2006 2:21:06 AM |
padowack Suspended 1255 Posts user info edit post |
in the suns case
offense is the best defense 5/9/2006 2:21:52 AM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck you skokiaan, you English loving bastard! This doesn't look like Eng111 to me.......................................................................................... 5/9/2006 7:18:07 AM |
Saddamizer Suspended 5294 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I mean I'm 23, have bad knees, and no discernable leg strength but in a 1-1 or 2-2 game you aren't gonna stop me from scoring all over you unless you're 6'2+ and quick. " |
I could stop you, rally. And I'm only 5 foot 8.
They call me the white Bruce Bowen.5/9/2006 11:53:14 AM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
from my days of coaching....
If a team kept running a pick and roll that was successfulk against us, I'd switch it up and throw a box and 1 or a triange 2 at those fuckers.
/pick and roll.
NBA teams should follow suit. 5/9/2006 12:08:47 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
^^ ha ha, absolutely no way. Id shoot over you all day.
under 6'1 and you're not defending me one on one. and if you're much taller than that you're probably screwed too.
[Edited on May 9, 2006 at 2:33 PM. Reason : a] 5/9/2006 2:33:20 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
BTW guys...
5/9/2006 5:30:06 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
By the way Im calling Dallas tonite over San Antonio.
Duncan should look a little worn down and unless Manu can just carry the Spurs I dont see them winning again tonite...
JTerry is bound to shoot better and the Spurs are gonna have trouble guarding Stackhouse again since Nowitzki is drawing Bowen.
Detroit in another romp, but thats not really tough to call 5/9/2006 6:52:53 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Dallas over San Antonio isn't a tough call either. 5/9/2006 9:44:50 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
You're right.
I only got +150 on them 5/9/2006 10:13:29 PM |
J_Hova All American 30984 Posts user info edit post |
Refs aint playin tonight
whats the spread on the game? 5/9/2006 10:44:41 PM |