no wonder they hate us

7/18/2006 10:02:42 AM

^this one made me lol

7/18/2006 10:53:17 AM

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"Yeah the whole "everything that happens now is the West's fault" argument is tired and old. The west put them in this situation, and they continue to choose to stay in it. At some point they'll turn around."

i agree with this, i get tired of people implying that muslims are savages who can't possibly live together. they have done so before and they can do so again. it will be mostly up to them to get there though.

7/18/2006 11:58:14 AM

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"i get tired of people implying that muslims are savages who can't possibly live together."

This stereotype is formed because of Muslims' behavior.

7/18/2006 12:00:03 PM

as are most stereotypes, that doesn't meant that it's helpful to buy into them. most muslims want to live their lives just like anyone else.

7/18/2006 12:03:39 PM

Of course they do -- the unfortunate part of that is they're cast in a bad light because of how widespread "jihad" behavior is.

7/18/2006 12:18:09 PM

Muslims have a history of killing their own kin

7/18/2006 2:06:00 PM

so do all races and religions.

[Edited on July 18, 2006 at 2:08 PM. Reason : your point?]

7/18/2006 2:08:19 PM

yea but most civilizations have matured past the 15th century

7/18/2006 2:11:56 PM

dude...if not for "Western Intervention", Muslims would kill each other just based on whether they're Sunnis or Shiiites.

Don't you know what happened in the Gulf war? Iraq trained all their missiles in Saudi Arabia on Sunni areas.

I say we stop giving these turrist aid and let them kill each other.

7/18/2006 2:15:07 PM

In the past, we've helped them kill each other.

It hasn't really improved the situation.

7/18/2006 2:17:55 PM

i say we take it to completion this time.

No more Muslims

No more Islamic extremism/Jehad

no more trains blowing up in India

7/18/2006 2:18:46 PM

the western intervention we're referring to is not the gulf war, but post world war I and II when the west split up the middle east for their own purposes. some of this was also due to earlier middle eastern leaders trying to modernize their military at the expense of selling out to european countries.

7/18/2006 2:19:35 PM

The thing is that boundaries are defined...no one cares who snatched the land from whom....are you trying to say the Arabs didn't steal the land from someone else? Are you saying the arabs evolved from amphibians millions of years ago in the MIddle East?

Pakistan was made of land from India for example.

You don't see my HIndu brothers blowing up the Pakistani trains and parliament and mosques.

Accept it...Islam teaches killing.

7/18/2006 2:27:41 PM

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"No more Muslims No more Islamic extremism/Jehad no more trains blowing up in India"

Sure, murdering millions of people to stop hundreds from dying in terrorists attacks make sense.

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"Accept it...Islam teaches killing."

Every read the Old Testament? It's many times more violent than the Qur'an.

7/18/2006 2:38:31 PM

ever read the Holy Quran?

and I don't care what you say...zero Christians were involved in bombing my country's Parliament, tourist resorts, Hindus, and the recent trains.

7/18/2006 2:39:38 PM

i don't know arabic, and i'm assuming you don't either.

7/18/2006 2:41:17 PM

then stfu

and how do you keep on perpetuating the lame "OMFG Western world divided the turrist world" propaganda?

I just told you that Pakistan is made of Indian land.

If your brothers are so righteous, how about gtfo of my country?

7/18/2006 2:42:46 PM

what in the hell are you spouting?

and it's not propaganda, look it up. san remo conference and the treaty of sevres.

[Edited on July 18, 2006 at 2:45 PM. Reason : a]

7/18/2006 2:43:44 PM

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"ever read the Holy Quran?"

Yes (in English translation, of course).

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"and I don't care what you say...zero Christians were involved in bombing my country's Parliament, tourist resorts, Hindus, and the recent trains."

That's no reason to hate all Muslims.

7/18/2006 2:43:53 PM

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"the western intervention we're referring to is not the gulf war, but post world war I and II when the west split up the middle east for their own purposes."

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"what in the hell are you spouting?"

Makes sense...durkas lack brains.

7/18/2006 2:45:24 PM

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"That's no reason to hate all Muslims."

Well, my hatred is for the Muslim Governments that sponsor cross border terrorism...get rid of them and I'll agree with you.

7/18/2006 2:46:38 PM

so what does this have to do with lebanon again?

and tell me how fucking treaties after world war I is "propaganda"

7/18/2006 2:47:50 PM

you are crying foul and bombing innocent people because the "west divided your arab land"

I just gave you an example of a situation where the west gave your people more land to terrorize neighboring countries.

And you're still crying and throwing tantrums.

7/18/2006 2:48:58 PM

my people? wtf?

oh yeah and did you even read what i said earlier?:

"Yeah the whole "everything that happens now is the West's fault" argument is tired and old. The west put them in this situation, and they continue to choose to stay in it. At some point they'll turn around."


i agree with this, i get tired of people implying that muslims are savages who can't possibly live together. they have done so before and they can do so again. it will be mostly up to them to get there though.

[Edited on July 18, 2006 at 2:50 PM. Reason : .]

7/18/2006 2:49:46 PM

the people you so vehemently defend.

7/18/2006 2:50:13 PM

ok. so you've conceded the "propaganda" point. so now you're calling me a terrorist sympathizer. ok. that's about par for the course. why don't you try to bring up some actual points instead of your normal thoughtless crap.

7/18/2006 2:52:30 PM

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" "Yeah the whole "everything that happens now is the West's fault" argument is tired and old. The west put them in this situation, and they continue to choose to stay in it"

No...they don't "continue" to stay in that position. They keep on bombing innocent places and damaging my freedoms.

They are in fact savages.

Do you forget what they did to the kurds?

How the hell can you even defend these turrists without crying tears of blood?

7/18/2006 2:53:28 PM

what does saddam's killing kurds have to do with islamic terrorism? his gov't was the most secular of all the middle east and WE funded it. what point were you trying to make again?

7/18/2006 2:54:49 PM

Some of us just love t3h turrurists, gargs.

Deal.

7/18/2006 2:54:49 PM

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"so you've conceded the "propaganda" point."

no I haven't

it is propaganda

throughout history, wars have been fought and global boundaries redefined...with bloodshed...million people lost lives in India because those faggot Britishers made two countries out of one and established the 2 nation theory that didn't work to this day.

But you deal with it. You don't terrorize other countries after LOSING the war.

And that's what these Arabs are doing. Face it...Israel exists and will continue to exist. UN and other countries are not going to delete it off the face of the earth anytime. Why do these people keep on fighting for evil?

and they are talking about someone "stealing" their land. Heck, that land wasn't even theirs historically.

So just STFU

7/18/2006 2:56:25 PM

i'm not just talking about israel, jackass. the entire middle east was split up seemingly arbitrarily by western powers after WWI. these repurcussions are still felt today. i'm not saying there's any way to go back and change all of this, but it is necessary to understand the history of the region to effectively understand the cultures involved.

and where have i EVER said that terrorism was acceptable? all that i've objected to iin this thread is the idea that muslims are savages who can't live together. i point to the fact that they have lived together at least somewhat peacefully for hundreds of years before the 20th century with many different religions close together.

7/18/2006 3:01:22 PM

It's not as if terrorism is going to end the world, anyway.

7/18/2006 3:02:42 PM

If they can live together so well, why was only a certain sect targetted during the Gulf War by Iraq? Those Shiites and Sunnis hate each other to death and you're preaching Islamic love for life to me.

STFU

never ever talk about turrism to me while basking in American liberties while your brothers blow up innocents.

I don't wanna understand teh historry...that changes nothing.

It has nothing to do with culture and everything to do with religion.

heck, Indian subcontinent has the same culture...Pakistan was IN India before 1947. Yet, you don't see Hindus blowing buildings and bombing those faggots west of the border.

STFU

[Edited on July 18, 2006 at 3:05 PM. Reason : .]

7/18/2006 3:04:27 PM

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"I don't wanna understand teh historry...that changes nothing."

spoken like a true idiot.

7/18/2006 3:08:49 PM

yeah I am a true idiot trying to democratically find solutions to Islamic extremism while the Islamic anarchies are blowing up my country piece by piece.

and crying

7/18/2006 3:09:58 PM

why don't you whine about india in a thread about india.

7/18/2006 3:11:33 PM

Why don't you tell the International world that Muslims love peace.

7/18/2006 3:12:16 PM

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"yeah I am a true idiot trying to democratically find solutions to Islamic extremism while the Islamic anarchies are blowing up my country piece by piece."

Uh...

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"i say we take it to completion this time. No more Muslims No more Islamic extremism/Jehad no more trains blowing up in India"

7/18/2006 3:13:05 PM

because those fuckers don't wanna reason any more.

7/18/2006 3:13:40 PM

Accepting a few terrorist attacks every year is better than starting WWIII.

7/18/2006 3:14:46 PM

no it's not.

If we went to a world war and wiped out the Islamic facists we'd save millions of innocent lives over the next few decades.

7/18/2006 3:15:57 PM

because genocide has worked so well in the past.

7/18/2006 3:17:14 PM

it's a war

and it's a counter Jehad

7/18/2006 3:17:35 PM

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"If we went to a world war and wiped out the Islamic facists we'd save millions of innocent lives over the next few decades."

Terrorists don't kill a hundred thousand people at year. A few thousand at most.

7/18/2006 3:21:18 PM

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"No more Muslims"

sounds like genocide to me

7/18/2006 3:21:43 PM

well, isn't it genocide when some mullah calls for a jehad against all Americans or Indians or the West?

7/18/2006 3:50:56 PM

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"^^completely ignorant. for some reason, people feel better about themselves if they think that al quaeda doesn't have rational motives. I didn't realize that kicking america out of the middle east, defeating israel, overthrowing apostate Arab governments, and uniting the ME under (popular) sharia law was lunacy. Overambitious, yes. Crazy? no. "

right and I want bush to turn over presidential authority to the pope...that's not crazy and worth killing over

and we weren't in the middle east until 9/11, so it's not like what they are doing is working

7/18/2006 5:07:15 PM

i wish there were words to describe my frustration with this

and if i were not so emotionally attached to the situation i wouldnt wish every fucking israeli in charge would fucking die

but i do

and what is better is most ignorant fucking Americans think that Lebanon harbors Al Queda etc. If Hezbollah is a terrorist group, they only have beef with Israel. WHen have the US public given a shit about the Tamil Tigers etc

fucking people

[Edited on July 18, 2006 at 10:34 PM. Reason : .]

7/18/2006 10:30:41 PM

I dunno man if I were the defenders of Lebanon, I wouldn't make a move that'd bring Israel down my country like a ton of bricks

7/18/2006 10:41:40 PM