JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2670005&campaign=rss&source=NCFHeadlines
add that school to the list of ones lookin new coaches 11/20/2006 9:52:45 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "obviously he's not referring to football" |
what the fuck?
is it not football season?
is this not a football related thread?
did he not talk about the state/unc game saturday?
oh, ok.11/20/2006 9:54:45 PM |
ENDContra All American 5160 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "add that school to the list of ones lookin new coaches" |
I believe Idaho State is I-AA...the pool of coaches we should be looking at and the pool of coaches Idaho State is looking at should not overlap at all.
At least, thats the way it should be.11/20/2006 10:16:16 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
you never know
but still its another school
maybe they would take Chuck 11/20/2006 10:17:55 PM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.newsobserver.com/122/story/512854.html
Quote : | "N.C. State athletics director Lee Fowler said today that football coach Chuck Amato's job performance would be evaluated after the season but would not say if Amato would return for an eighth year. ""I'm not going to get into any speculation about Chuck," Fowler said.
Asked if he would end speculation about Amato's job being in jeopardy by confirming that Amato would return in 2007, Fowler said, "I don't want to say anything about Coach Amato at this point. We'll look at the season when it's over. I'm a big believer in Senior Day and I want the seniors to have the opportunity to go out with a good Senior Day, so I don't want to get into any speculation.
"I've been consistent in saying we will evaluate everything at the end of the season. The season ends Saturday."
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That doesn't sound like Lee at ALL. He is always backing Chuck up. Maybe that is a sign that something is going on....11/20/2006 10:44:33 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
He's gone
we have pretty much decided that the 'handwriting is on the wall' according to Pack Pride
the BOT must want him out, i would think Vaughn and Murphy considering their names are on walls at CF
Lee wouldnt say that otherwise. 11/20/2006 10:47:09 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
lol its amazing how "you people" get so firey when someone says something dumb about ncsu unc not being a rivalry
11/20/2006 10:59:05 PM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
^
wrong thread 11/20/2006 11:02:18 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "lol its amazing how "you people" get so firey when someone says something dumb about ncsu unc not being a rivalry" |
thats because some idiots from chapel hill have been spewing that shit for years when we all know its not true. "oh we don't care about you (aka we're too good to give two shits about you), we only care about dook." right buddy, and thats why kenan stadium erupted in a near-national-championship-level roar during/after saturdays game.
and the fact that you're here spewing this same shit makes you sound like one of them, not one of us.11/20/2006 11:11:18 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
HAH. yea, i'm one of them.
u dont even freakin know.
i hate that school with everything i have, i got thrown out of my section by security guards 2 years ago for standing up for State when a fratty assclown wearing a bowtie and suspenders tried to start shit.
i have every damn reason to be pissed, because in 2 years, our team has done NOTHING to prevent that shit from happening again every year.
and us losing to them all the time adds fuel to their stupid ego's and their "we dont care" attitude.
[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 12:33 AM. Reason : too much profanity] 11/21/2006 12:28:24 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Who should be fired first: Fowler or Amato?" |
Fowler.
1) If you take care of Fowler the Amato issue will be resolved shortly thereafter. If you fire Amato first you might have Fowler for years to come. The powers that be might not be inclined to even look for a new AD if they fire Amato first.
2) If Fowler is still in charge he will be the one that is responsible for bringing in the new football coach. I don't think he is capable of signing on a winner.11/21/2006 7:34:45 AM |
Blind Hate Suspended 1878 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If Fowler is still in charge he will be the one that is responsible for bringing in the new football coach. " |
You mean just like Baddour was at UNC?11/21/2006 7:46:38 AM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
somehow i don't see the bigger boosters allowing fowler to screw up again. whether that means they fire his ass or just go around him remains to be seen. 11/21/2006 7:56:39 AM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "somehow i don't see the bigger boosters allowing fowler to screw up again. whether that means they fire his ass or just go around him remains to be seen." |
Then what's the purpose of Fowler's position if alumni will hire the head coach? To run the sports no one cares about?11/21/2006 8:00:42 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
^^^that means nothing in terms of NCSU.
[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 8:01 AM. Reason : ^^^] 11/21/2006 8:01:12 AM |
Blind Hate Suspended 1878 Posts user info edit post |
Of course it does. Stop making proclamations without having a damned clue what you're talking about. 11/21/2006 8:05:02 AM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
all that have to remember is how long fowler defended herb before he made a move, and how long he's probably going to try and stand up for chuck. 11/21/2006 8:05:48 AM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
herb was making the tournament 11/21/2006 8:10:29 AM |
Blind Hate Suspended 1878 Posts user info edit post |
You mean, like he is standing up for chuck here
http://www.newsobserver.com/753/story/513076.html
Quote : | ""I'm not going to get into any speculation about Chuck," Fowler said in an interview Monday. "I don't want to say anything about Coach Amato at this point." |
No comment to me = fired!11/21/2006 8:11:39 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Of course it does. Stop making proclamations without having a damned clue what you're talking about." |
Please, explain how what UNC does proves what an inept NCSU Athletics Department will or won't do.11/21/2006 8:16:29 AM |
ncsucharlie Suspended 4074 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "long fowler defended herb before he made a move" |
Herb left on his own .. no moves were made by fowler to get rid of him11/21/2006 8:17:38 AM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
yeah sorry, I meant herb made a move out
now that I reread that it wasn't the best wording 11/21/2006 8:41:17 AM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
Damn you people are dumb, but i love you, who wants to bwn??
FIRE CHUCK 11/21/2006 8:41:50 AM |
Blind Hate Suspended 1878 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Please, explain how what UNC does proves what an inept NCSU Athletics Department will or won't do." |
It proves that NCSU can just as well hire a consultant to perform the coaching search. Ever heard of learning from history? NCSU isn't immune to such things, even though sometimes it seems that way.11/21/2006 8:49:01 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
It proves that they can, not that they will. Which is my point. 11/21/2006 8:52:51 AM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, we can't leave this up to "NO BALLS Fowler" 11/21/2006 9:03:13 AM |
Blind Hate Suspended 1878 Posts user info edit post |
Like I said. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Fowler fumbled on the bball coach search. It isn't like he has a long history of doing this. Just shut the fuck up. 11/21/2006 9:03:15 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
You're the man dude. I particularly like how we followed in UNC's footsteps and fired a crappy football coach mid-season. 11/21/2006 9:15:53 AM |
Blind Hate Suspended 1878 Posts user info edit post |
I also like how we fired our coach mid season after big wins over BC and FSU. 11/21/2006 9:17:56 AM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
In Chuck's press conference yesterday, when they said no questions about his future or they would end the conference right there.....
So eventually some reporter asked and they end the press conference....
And yesterday some of the people on here were going off on that reporter....
Quote : | "Monday's news conference ended when a Technician writer asked Amato how he would respond to people who would say the Pack needs a change in coaches.
" |
THANK YOU TECHNICIAN WRITER. IT TAKES AN NCSU STUDENT WITH BALLS TO STAND UP AND TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS.
http://www.newsobserver.com/752/story/513076.html11/21/2006 9:20:23 AM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, gg, He must be getting the boot...
OR AT LEAST I HOPE 11/21/2006 9:22:20 AM |
wolfpack1100 All American 4390 Posts user info edit post |
You should never fire a coach mid season. Chuck has not produced i don't care what you say. He recruits good playesr but never develops the talent. He has brought alot of money into the buildings and stadium but what is he without Rivers. 11/21/2006 9:25:29 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Firing Amato yesterday would have still been mid season. 11/21/2006 9:26:10 AM |
SouthPaW12 All American 10141 Posts user info edit post |
firing Amato yesterday would've been awesome 11/21/2006 9:46:06 AM |
TallyHo All American 11744 Posts user info edit post |
how is asking the question that ends the press conference "taking care of business?"
[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 9:51 AM. Reason : -] 11/21/2006 9:51:13 AM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
Not simply asking easy questions...
Not going along with their silencing the media/fans voice....
Asking what 80% of students/fans want to know.... 11/21/2006 9:53:28 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
I mean seriously
Does the program honestly think anyone gives a shit about what they plan to do for the ECU game? They've lost what, six straight? Who gives a flying fuck what adjustments will be made.
There's one question that needs to be cleared on everyone's minds and I think its all hinging on the ECU game. 11/21/2006 9:55:34 AM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
it is very sad if this game is a determining factor in chuck's tenure. 11/21/2006 9:58:35 AM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
Chuck is a defensive coach. He has done a terrific job building us a quality defense. Offensively, we are the worst team in the ACC. I think it is Trestman. Get rid of him.
I think the only thing Chuck needs to work on is keeping the players disciplined. Some of our players are worse than Miami's players. 11/21/2006 10:32:57 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
You're a fucking moron if you think Chuck is a "great" defensive coach.
For instance, a Carolina team that ran all over us last weekend.
Or the random way our defense rolls over and dies for an entire quarter nearly every game this year (except FSU and BC).
Or the time Chuck WAS the defensive coach and we lost 3 straight with PR. 11/21/2006 10:35:35 AM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
^^I'm sorry, how many tackles did we miss last Saturday? I lost count at about 20. 11/21/2006 10:36:17 AM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
NCSU
Total Defense = 9th in the ACC Scoring Defense = 10th in the ACC Rushing Defense = 9th in the ACC Pass Efficiency Defense = 9th in the ACC Turnovers Forced = 12th in the ACC Red Zone Defense = 12th in the ACC
great defense 11/21/2006 10:38:33 AM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
Count how many times our offense has left us with our backs against the wall on defense. Count the total number of minutes our defense has been on the field. If the offense is horrible, the defense will suffer and vice versa. Our defensive personel is much much better than when Rivers was here. Back then, we had to outscore opponents to win.
Quote : | "You're a fucking moron if you think Chuck is a "great" defensive coach." |
Who used the word great?11/21/2006 10:45:12 AM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Our defensive personel is much much better than when Rivers was here. Back then, we had
to outscore opponents to win a leader who inspired and led the team. Today we have a clown." |
11/21/2006 10:49:58 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
"He has done a terrific job building us a quality defense. "
Dude if you're for one second going to try and say that this statement, which you wrote doesn't translate to you holding the opinion that chuck is a "great" defensive coach then we have no further need to talk. 11/21/2006 10:54:57 AM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
A quality defense (Better than average personel wise. Our defense was the only reason why we won games when Jay and Marcus were QBs).......not the same thing as a great defense (like the Steelers in the 70s or Florida State in the 90s). 11/21/2006 11:12:11 AM |
frshmkr11 Veteran 328 Posts user info edit post |
Everyone should email ESPN and tell them to use NCSU instead of NCST 11/21/2006 11:15:23 AM |
Blind Hate Suspended 1878 Posts user info edit post |
Chuck is a great defensive coach and you are an idiot if you think otherwise. I can't believe we are having this discussion. 11/21/2006 11:15:38 AM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NCSU
Total Defense = 9th in the ACC Scoring Defense = 10th in the ACC Rushing Defense = 9th in the ACC Pass Efficiency Defense = 9th in the ACC Turnovers Forced = 12th in the ACC Red Zone Defense = 12th in the ACC
great defense" |
just because I couldn't say it any better.11/21/2006 11:23:56 AM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
chuck is such a great coach, i mean look what he can do with top 10 talent: http://html.wral.com/sh/blogger/2006/11/acc-contrasts-georgia-tech-ncsu.html 11/21/2006 11:25:40 AM |