^yeah that doesn't make any sense. It has to be some type of cylon or other involvment. Unless traveling at the speed of light in a way "cleans" your ship. heh.

4/5/2008 4:20:16 PM

Quote :

"I hope starbuck isn't a cylon. I bet the president is. "

I don't see how she could not be a cylon. I would take too much BS I think for her not to be a cylon.

I also don't see why if they're following the path the ancients laid out for them, how they could possibly be going the wrong way.

4/5/2008 5:51:32 PM

President will die this season.

WE NEED MORE HOTDOG.

He is the next cylon

4/5/2008 7:38:04 PM

its either Starbuck or Roslin. if the revealing of the previous cylons that were Colonial fleet members have taught us is, that all the skinjobs have had a special hatred for the cylons themselves. that definitely fits those two.

however that being said even that has major holes in it. if Roslin is a cylon than how is she dying from cancer when cylons are immune from human diseases? the hybrid child had to save her in season 2.

and Starbuck is way way to obvious. its like Baltar season two obvious. while it does make perfect sense, with her not being shown in child form when she gets her fingers slammed in the door, looking the same at her mom's when she graduates, and her ship in perfect shape...after last season's final four surprises, this would be almost a creative let down.

I believe it will be a woman. So far we have 7 male cylon models compared to 4 female. If the cylons based their skinjob evolutions off of 12 basic models of humanity, than the ratio of male to female has to be more 7:5 than 8:4.

if only i could write papers on this shit instead of what i do now

4/5/2008 11:30:16 PM

I guess it would have to be someone without kids, so no adama. Doesn't really narrow anything down.

4/5/2008 11:32:25 PM

I haven't seen the episode yet, so forgive me. But seriously, how can old one eye be a cylon? He was in the first war. People have known him longer than that...Cylons go back in time and create him? rofl.

4/6/2008 4:17:28 AM

yeah really. this show has "jumped the shark" or whatever you people call it when a show abandons what's good about it and just does gimmicky shit that doesn't make any sense to try and scrape some ratings together.

4/6/2008 10:54:03 AM

^^ therefore, the same cylons we know and love didn't create him.

4/6/2008 11:43:15 AM

Quote :

"I believe it will be a woman. So far we have 7 male cylon models compared to 4 female. If the cylons based their skinjob evolutions off of 12 basic models of humanity, than the ratio of male to female has to be more 7:5 than 8:4."

I doubt that actually matters very much since the cylons can't even procreate. There seems to be no reason why the last one can't be male.

4/6/2008 2:51:12 PM

I'm just praying they don't make Adama the last one... I'd throw my remote through the fucking TV

4/6/2008 5:13:54 PM

It is NOT Starbuck.

Proof:

The guy that got scanned in the eyes was out fighting the cylons. If Starbuck had been one, this would have happened along time ago with her and we would already know.

That also means that none of the fighter pilots are cylons including Adama's son.

4/6/2008 9:28:44 PM

or that the scan would only work if the final five were self-aware of their cylon status

4/6/2008 9:44:37 PM

Will Ty attack Adama, or what that just what he feared would happen in that illusion

4/6/2008 9:56:45 PM

^^ Well the first seven don't recognize the four that were just revealed, otherwise New Caprica would've been very different. So either it's due to the cylons now knowing that they're cylons and everyone now knows about each other, or the raiders' abilities to spot them when the human models can't.

I'm guessing the latter, since the Six in their brig only said that the five "were close" but didn't point out that they were Tigh, Chief, etc.

^ I think that was just his imagination. Like his inner cylon dream vision or something.

4/6/2008 10:07:11 PM

the 7 certainly don't know who the 5 are (well, except for the one xena), but it seems possible/likely that the more 'animal' cylons (raiders & I guess centurions) were made to instinctively recognize & obey their own

the 7 have been the brains behind all the cylon activity thus far, but the existence of the 5 implies a greater mind above them that doesn't necessarily condone their actions

4/6/2008 10:36:36 PM

this is all just getting silly.

4/6/2008 11:10:47 PM

^ it's a little silly, but no where near the silliness of LOST.

Also, the next episode apparently has them talking about lobotomizing the metal cylons which I guess explain why they aren't the uber AIs they were made out to be earlier in the show.

4/6/2008 11:14:23 PM

how is this silly?

this show is heavy on the impossibility of religion vs. the bleakness of reality. it has not changed its methods or format since season 1 except actually evolving a plot into more than...

"evil robots chase humans. shit blows up."
"evil robots chase humans. shit blows up."
"evil robots chase humans. shit blows up."
"evil robots chase humans. shit blows up."

its not saturday morning cartoons.

[Edited on April 6, 2008 at 11:46 PM. Reason : no double post]

[Edited on April 6, 2008 at 11:47 PM. Reason : urhg]

4/6/2008 11:41:00 PM

Certainly is an intriguing and exciting start to a season. This storyline can either turn out really cool or really, really bad. I hope for the former but brace for the latter.

4/7/2008 2:00:08 AM

Quote :

"I doubt that actually matters very much since the cylons can't even procreate. There seems to be no reason why the last one can't be male."

But they certainly intended to be able to procreate...so it very possibly would be a factor.

Quote :

"yeah really. this show has "jumped the shark" or whatever you people call it when a show abandons what's good about it and just does gimmicky shit that doesn't make any sense to try and scrape some ratings together."

RDM has said the Final Five are "fundamentaly different" than the other 7 Cylons...and also "how appropriate" it is that these people are Cylons. Call me crazy, but I believe there was a lot more thought put into this rather than simply "Hey, wouldnt it be cool if Tigh and Chief were toasters!".

4/7/2008 9:19:47 AM

Quote :

"But they certainly intended to be able to procreate...so it very possibly would be a factor. "

Yeah, but they can make a male/female cylon population into whatever they want: it's unlikely that there'd be a "shortage" of men or women cylons either way

they could just manufacture twice as many female models to carry all the babies

until they start relying solely on babymaking, I don't see that it's an issue

4/7/2008 9:30:05 AM

Everyone in the fleet is a cylon. The only real humans left in the galaxy are on or originated from Earth.

i think i have explained this before

4/8/2008 6:05:24 PM

^haha that would be a crazy ending to season 4. I think it would be a little too depressing though.

4/8/2008 6:13:19 PM

Here is my theory.

Earth is the cradle of Human life.

Humans make cylons and shit. They rebel and own the hell out of p. much all the humans. And chase them all the way to cobol. The humans at cobol are like "this sucks balls". And most of them are like 'fuck this shit lets peace out' and then theres a few that are like ' no fuck that lets go back to earth'. And the first group is like 'nigga please you dont even know where that shit is'. and the pro-earth dudes are like 'whatev, peace we out.'

So most of them run off to the 12colonies and the cylons track them down an kill dem. Then they go back for the earth people, but the earth humans figured out a way to own the fuck out of the cylons and they end up killing all cylons except for a few that are over near the 12 colonies. The earth humans are feeling pretty pleased with themselves and go about their business rebuilding earth.

The cylons over in the colonies get busy evolving and eventually evolve to the point of becoming the humans in the BSG fleet. They wipe their own memories and make up te shit about te lords of cobol but put the stuff about earth in as kind of abackdoor reminder that some shit happened.

The cylon humans make new cylons because they dont know any better. These cylons rebel in the first cylon war. They get pwned by adama and tigh and end up retreating into unknown space. They findout about their real history and evolve into human-cylons mk2. They didn't have as much time to evolve as human-cylons mk1 so they cant do cool shit like maek babby. They're all pissed that thy were enslaved by their own kind so they come up with the plan to wipe out the colonies and thats where the BSG miniseries starts.

This all makes sense u see because of these facts:

-"All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again. " - cylons they know wht the fuck is up and they want to wipe out humanity again.

-That one dude in razor that was like starbuck is going to lead humanity to getting owned. If she leads the cylons to earth they're gonna fucking own the remaining real humans on earth. or so he thinks

-Lords of Cobol is obviously bs because NO ONE FUKIN USES COBOL ANYMORE JEEZ!

-other facts i will remember later

HERE ARE SOME PREDICTIONS! They are coming from me so they can probably be considered spoilers READ AT YOU"RE OWN RISK!

adama is A CYLON!!!! Well yea of course he is they're all cylons in da fleet but the diffeence is adama knows he is a human-cylon mk1. Thats how he knows where earth is and also why he owns so fucking hard. We know he has been to earth already because he was in a movie about cylons with harrison ford.

hotdog is the cylon god. It was his idea to use "all along the watch tower" as the trigger for the 4 dudes who are infact cylons, but couldn't afford a good cover because he spent all his money on women and anti-std drugs. He is going to make racetrack preggers with cylon jesus.

starbuck and apollo never get it together because they're relationship is so fuckin borin.

cylon al uses his time travel powers to try to send cylon xena back in time to kill humans on earth but she looses her memories and ends up in an alternative timeline earth with hercules.

black cylon showsup for 15 minutes of total screen time this season, 10 of which are in episode trailers.

4/8/2008 7:15:16 PM

wait, did I really read all of that?

4/8/2008 9:39:22 PM

i sure as hell didnt

4/8/2008 9:54:05 PM

Quote :

"Thats how he knows where earth is"

Except for the fact that he's admitted to Roslin that he doesn't.

[Edited on April 8, 2008 at 10:10 PM. Reason : your theory is crazy]

4/8/2008 9:56:29 PM

of course he told her he didn't know. Hes a cylon. She'd try to flush him out an airlock.
















p.s.

[Edited on April 8, 2008 at 10:18 PM. Reason : the dream where shes in the opera house is a cylon trick by adama to get her to straighten her hair]

4/8/2008 10:15:55 PM

I've been playing the BSG game on Xbox Live Arcade, and I've been having a lot of fun with it. Got a nice clean soundcap of the Viper's gun trigger, which I'm now using as my reminder/message tone on my PDA.

4/10/2008 9:41:48 AM

^Downloaded that this weekend when it was "half off"...its ok, but this show is deserving of a MUCH better game than this...youd think with the number of fans it has in the industry, that would happen. Also Ive noticed anytime Ive went to the multiplayer mode, there are never any matches available.

4/10/2008 4:25:16 PM

So they have several of the previous episodes (including the one from last week) posted to view at scifi.com on the view full episodes option. But the advertisment says that this weeks episode can be viewed at 12 noon only, I cant watch at 12 noon bc im at work all day. Do you think this means they wont post this episode at all?

4/11/2008 11:35:23 AM

I don't really know what they'll post: I guess you can wait and see in a couple days, or watch the episode on TV tonight.

OMG, 10 minutes until the episode plays on scifi.com!

[Edited on April 11, 2008 at 11:50 AM. Reason : .]

4/11/2008 11:50:10 AM

[Edited on April 11, 2008 at 12:50 PM. Reason : great episode, I'll refrain from spoiling it]

4/11/2008 12:49:12 PM

That would be fucked up if everyone is a cylon and earth is full of advanced humans that kill them all.

By the way they describe the end. Some major twists or contriversial events will happen. Someone will die. Someone will betray.

same old same old

[Edited on April 11, 2008 at 7:21 PM. Reason : dasd]

4/11/2008 7:20:25 PM

Lee Adama goodbuy thing in the hanger seemed unwarranted. I believe it is because he has been a pussy ever since the 2nd season

4/11/2008 11:03:24 PM

Lee Adama will be the next president.

4/13/2008 12:47:44 AM

Quote :

"What I think about Starbuck: Starbuck traveled near the speed of light to get to earth, and so because of time dilation, the months to her seemed like a few hours. Then the writers invent something like the speed scrambled her nav computer."

The idea that starbuck is either a cylon or was whisked off and kept mostly unconscious by an incredibly powerful force (god, children of earth, the beings that pretended to be the gods of colonists, porn-stars from mars, etc.) makes more sense than time dilation. Besides, a non-jump capable viper would only travel light-months distance at near light speeds.

A lot of explanations can work, and time dilation would just be silly. It would be like ending a murder mystery with "So he killed his wife because she was cheating on him! Oh yeah, and he was an alien who craved blood sometimes."

[Edited on April 13, 2008 at 1:16 AM. Reason : ]

4/13/2008 1:15:57 AM

Agreed. Given that her vessel is brand new upon return, it's pretty obvious that some force carried her to Earth and back.

4/14/2008 4:13:17 PM

a wormhole with an automatic viper wash.

4/14/2008 4:19:49 PM

Quote :

"Lee Adama will be the next president."

I'm with you here. They are really setting him up for that aren't they? Which means something will happen to Roslyn? She a cylon? She dies?

4/14/2008 4:24:53 PM

Lee is such a fucking baby.

Why the fuck cant you just have him show off his skillz and be a badass. noooooooo hes always tearing up like a bitch because its his destiny and shit. FUCK LEE ADAMA

That god damn lawyer was a better character.

shnoogins

4/14/2008 4:57:25 PM

I finally got to see the Razor movie and the comment at the end by the cylon (the one that said this has happened before and it will happen again) brought up something I forgot.

He said that Starbuck would led them (the humans) to there destruction. So I am wondering is that were Starbuck is actually doing and not realizing it...

4/14/2008 5:08:31 PM

Quote :

"Which means something will happen to Roslyn? She a cylon?"

A cylon with cancer? I doubt it.

4/14/2008 5:31:59 PM

Of course she is a cylon. They are all cylons. She had that shared dream with those 2 other cylons. She is def a cylon.

4/14/2008 6:08:16 PM

Can anyone agree with me that Lee Adama is a baby and that lawyer needs to run shit on Galactica?

4/14/2008 8:19:16 PM

Quote :

"Which means something will happen to Roslyn? She a cylon? She dies?"

Given that her hair was starting to fall out last episode, I would go with the latter.

Quote :

"He said that Starbuck would led them (the humans) to there destruction. So I am wondering is that were Starbuck is actually doing and not realizing it..."

Could very well be. Perhaps Earth is ultimately their doom and not their salvation as they hoped...

4/15/2008 10:57:10 AM

I feel ignored

4/15/2008 11:01:31 AM

yeah, I like how they're in a perpetual state of military crisis and one of their best pilots can just throw on a sweater and be like "guys, I don't feel like doing this any more. I'm leaving :\"

4/15/2008 11:36:21 PM

dude's hot in sweaters

you can't deny that

4/16/2008 1:14:34 PM

Lee just didnt want to get stuck out in space again with a torn suit

4/16/2008 1:55:53 PM