Terp, so you consider me the backwoods redneck or whinning republican?

3/20/2008 11:16:07 AM

You get your own category. You're a "dumb piece of shit"

3/20/2008 11:19:43 AM

i've never voted or registered with any political party but i'm sure terp would consider me a whinning republican

and even though i grew up in a metropolitan city and went to the same high school as terpball, i'm sure he considers me a backwoods redneck

cause the only people who don't agree with the all-mighty terpball's political ideologies (and i use the term ideologies very loosely) must be dumb rednecks or whinning (whatever that means) republicans

oh and also terp isn't defending reverend wright just because he's a black man...thats not the reason

3/20/2008 11:20:42 AM

I was talking about the people dwelling on him, I don't give a fuck about Wright - I'm defending Obama. Not even so much defending him, but pointing out the fact

Quote :

"it seems like the only ones still bitching about it is the likes of you - the backwards redneck type and the whining conservatives who are scared of both change and minorities. "

You just don't matter - you can dwell on it all you want.

3/20/2008 11:27:56 AM

ALL PEOPLE THAT DISAGREE WITH ME ARE EITHER "WHINNING" REBUBLICANS OR BACKWOODS REDNECKS

THATS THE ONLY EXPLANATION MY WALNUT SIZED BRAIN CAN COME UP WITH

btw you dont matter either...seriously

3/20/2008 11:31:22 AM

dumb piece of shit? how so terp. Do you attack me because we disagree politically? Im more educated? Make more money? Im white? What is it.

I dont find you to be a very thoughtful person, but I wouldnt call you a piece of shit. I just dont know you. But I gather you work, went to college, and come from a nice family.. You are far from what I consider a piece of shit. Naive and immature, but not a piece of shit.

3/20/2008 12:35:16 PM

Here's a video from the song that opened up the Values Voter debate last night with Republican superstars like Mike Huckabee, Ron Paul, Tom Tancredo, and Alan Keyes. The song is called "Why Should God Bless America?" and basically concludes that, well, he shouldn't because we are a nation of heathens.

I haven't seen anybody calling out the GOP for this, double standard much?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X77R_prkCkg

Why should God bless America?
She’s forgotten he exists
And has turned her back
On everything that made her what she is

Why should God stand beside her
Through the night with the light from his hand?
God have mercy on America
Forgive her sin and heal our land

The courts ruled prayer out of our schools
In June of ‘62
Told the children “you are your own God now
So you can make the rules”
O say can you see what that choice
Has cost us to this day
America, one nation under God, has gone astray

Why should God bless America?
Shes’s forgotten he exists
And has turned her back on everything
That made her what she is

Why should God stand beside her
Through the night with the light from his hand?
God have mercy on America
Forgive her sins and heal our land

In ‘73 the Courts said we
Could take the unborn lives
The choice is yours don’t worry now
It’s not a wrong, it’s your right

But just because they made it law
Does not change God’s command
The most that we can hope for is
God’s mercy on our land

Why should God bless America?
She’s forgotten he exists
And has turned her back on everything
That made her what she is

Why should God stand beside her
Through the night with the light from his hand?
God have mercy on America
Forgive her sins and heal our land

3/20/2008 1:01:16 PM

Here are some more Jeremiah Wright videos too DAMN LISTEN TO THIS KILL WHITEY HATE SPEECH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4it8rPMgQJ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfDyxqjPW5Q

MY BLOOD IS BOILING

Actually here's a whole bunch have a ball

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=TRINITYCHGO

[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 1:31 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2008 1:29:13 PM

THOSE ARE OUT OF CONTEXT

3/20/2008 2:08:26 PM

meh

[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 2:26 PM. Reason : ]

3/20/2008 2:26:26 PM

message_topic.aspx?topic=518685

3/20/2008 3:01:37 PM

Quote :

"The courts ruled prayer out of our schools In June of ‘62 Told the children “you are your own God now So you can make the rules” O say can you see what that choice Has cost us to this day"

this reminds me of those email forwards where people say, where was God during the school shootings? and God says, you don't want me in the schools

it makes God sound like a little bitch

3/20/2008 5:17:09 PM

Quote :

"Here are some more Jeremiah Wright videos too DAMN LISTEN TO THIS KILL WHITEY HATE SPEECH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4it8rPMgQJ4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfDyxqjPW5Q MY BLOOD IS BOILING"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rncgG5Bic-0

Look at this one, he gets himself and some other church members tested for AIDS on stage! HE'S SO CRAZY, HOW COULD OBAMA NOT SEE THIS???!!!

[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 6:40 PM. Reason : ]

3/20/2008 6:13:07 PM

I personally am much more offended by BO's or HRC's actual political plans than this Rev. Wrong debacle.

But, to those of you who think this doesn't matter in the general election I just want to say here and now that I am not going to defend McCain for the next 4 years. He is not my candidate and I think his campaign is pathetic, but heck I think all he needs to do is just stay silent until the election at this rate.

3/20/2008 10:38:00 PM

Quote :

"But, to those of you who think this doesn't matter in the general election"

It clearly does matter, but I don't think it should, and I think it's largely a result of the media painting a picture for people.

But, you're right, this is pretty bad for the democrats in general. Hillary was always behind, and it almost like she's of the mentality that she'd rather McCain win than Obama, considering how she's been defending McCain. I guess she realize she's going to lose and wants to be able to run again in 4 years rather than 8.

3/20/2008 11:25:11 PM

Wright seems pretty crazy coming from the roman catholic perspective - but it I was an American protestant I wouldnt' mind that guy being my pastor I guess. I'd have to get used to the yelling and screaming and the over-all brute candor

3/20/2008 11:37:38 PM

Quote :

"funny how all the BO supporters think all the Wright press and publicity is something concocted by the republicans, and not something from hillary's camp"

3/21/2008 12:04:43 AM

Considering the videos actionpants posted, Wright's apparently not crazy 90% of the time at least. It's easy to see how Obama didn't know about his crazy sermons, and it's even less clear to me now exactly what was going on in the supposed crazy sermons.

It's unfortunate though that people were duped so easily, but I guess that's politics.

3/21/2008 12:06:51 AM

I like this guy, Rev. Wright.

he's pretty fuckin awesome. I'd join his church.

3/21/2008 12:08:51 AM

The very fact that Obama has been holding his shit together Stonewall Jackson style through such a massively ridiculous 'scandal' more then proves he's an able leader to me.

Yes, lets all get worked about what the guy who makes a living believing in mystical forces says.

3/21/2008 12:32:35 AM

It says a lot about the Democratic party that the only people to really stand up for Obama on this are McCain and Huckabee

3/21/2008 12:36:59 AM

...and obama supporters.

3/21/2008 12:40:39 AM

...and relatively neutral third parties.

Quote :

"Yes, lets all get worked about what the guy who makes a living believing in mystical forces says."

Shit.

Open your wallet.

If those tissue portraits aren't proof of mystical forces at work, I don't know what is.

3/21/2008 1:02:34 AM

Sorry, I meant publicly in the media

Hillary was just all "I didn't listen to the speech but I sure am glad he gave it" and I haven't heard any comment from Pelosi or Dean at least

3/21/2008 1:04:02 AM

The Democrats tend to be a looser coalition of tribes than the Republicans. Lock-step is a rare march for them.

3/21/2008 1:05:19 AM

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120604775960652829.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

This is a pretty good analysis I think on why most people seemed to like Obama's speech.

Quote :

"The primary rhetorical virtue of the speech can be found in two words, endemic and Faulkner. Endemic is the kind of word political consultants don't let politicians use because 72% of Americans don't understand it. This lowest-common-denominator thinking, based on dizzy polling, has long degraded American discourse. When Obama said Mr. Wright wrongly encouraged "a view that sees white racism as endemic," everyone understood. Because they're not, actually, stupid. As for Faulkner -- well, this was an American politician quoting William Faulkner: "The past isn't dead and buried. In fact, it isn't even past." This is a thought, an interesting one, which means most current politicians would never share it. "

3/21/2008 1:45:23 AM

[Edited on March 21, 2008 at 2:41 AM. Reason : pm sent]

3/21/2008 2:41:18 AM

SILVER ALERT! Missing: Have you seen this man?

3/21/2008 5:07:51 AM

I like how everybody who criticizes Wright loves Robertson and Falwell and doesn't care when they used to endorse people (at least in Falwell's case).

All preachers are crazy. Is this really an issue?

3/21/2008 8:47:31 AM

^ Falwell's dead, dumbass. You need some new far-left talking points.

3/21/2008 8:52:34 AM

How about this for a talking point?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3548250.ece

Quote :

"John McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, has been called upon to renounce a church leader he considers his spiritual guide for urging a Christian war to destroy the “false religion” of Islam. "

Hypocitical bastards

3/21/2008 9:08:44 AM

Quote :

"I like how everybody who criticizes Wright loves Robertson and Falwell "

fuck all three of them you broad brush painting communist

Quote :

"It's easy to see how Obama didn't know about his crazy sermons"

you still think he didnt know about them? even though in his speech he admitted that wright said some controversial things that he didnt agree with...and even though a year or so ago their campagin tried to distance themselves from reverend wright...but you still believe barack didnt even KNOW about them? looks like you've definitely got your mind made up already

3/21/2008 9:13:18 AM

^ Not to mention McCain's own use of racial slurs back in 2000.

3/21/2008 9:13:39 AM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OIT3jUrNTX0

BTW, Bill Clinton and "Reverend Wrong" in 1998:

http://tinyurl.com/2ao5x6


[Edited on March 21, 2008 at 12:13 PM. Reason : .]

3/21/2008 11:54:46 AM

Trinity finally gets around to posting the full sermons, calling out Fox news (which was one of the worse, but all the outlets were pretty bad too):
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=TRINITYCHGO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvMbeVQj6Lw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ

This helps as far as showing the media was taking things out of context, but Wright is clearly anti-Bush (and heaps praise on Bill Clinton pretty generously), so this isn't going to do much as far as reaching across the aisle to the right.

3/23/2008 9:08:12 PM

Wright seems like a pretty cool dude.

This supposed scandal has increased, not decreased, my support for Obama.

3/23/2008 9:27:10 PM

its made me realize clinton is the only dem that has a chance to beat mccain in the general election imo

3/23/2008 9:52:57 PM

I'm sure we'll hear an apology tomorrow.


Psych!

3/23/2008 9:53:32 PM

^ to be fair, Jackson/Sharpton rarely apologize for the BS they occasionally get caught up in, I don't think the evil white media feels the need to oblige either

Although, they have been more softer in their coverage of the Wright issues.

3/23/2008 10:05:13 PM

Where is Reverend Wrong? Maybe these folks can help:



[Edited on March 24, 2008 at 4:57 AM. Reason : ]

3/24/2008 4:54:51 AM

he is retired numb nuts.

3/24/2008 9:26:47 AM

Quote :

"Wright seems like a pretty cool dude. This supposed scandal has increased, not decreased, my support for Obama."

i was worried at first when i just saw the out-of-context clips that Hannity/Rush/Beck/Hooksaw/Oeuvre/Eyedrb want everyone to only see.

i was even questioning my own support for a moment.

but once i saw the entire speech (sermon), i was like "hell yes"




[Edited on March 24, 2008 at 3:21 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2008 3:20:36 PM

They are clearly a completely different story when put in context, but it won't help the damage it has done.

3/24/2008 3:48:55 PM

^^^ Reverend Wrong is actually on sabbatical, nutsuckr--you should do your own research instead of letting the DNC, MoveOn, and Daily Kos develop your talking points. In any event, neither retirement nor sabbatical preclude him from defending the statements in question--I'm sure there are plenty of new outlets that would give him a platform.

Quote :

"Attempts by BlackAmericaWeb.com to reach Wright were unsuccessful. A receptionist at the church said that he is on sabbatical and is out of the country."

http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/movingamerica08/trinitywright317

And Wright is still listed as pastor of his church's Web site--FYI:

http://www.tucc.org/pastor.htm

^^ So you're to the left of Obama? GG.

[Edited on March 24, 2008 at 4:01 PM. Reason : .]

3/24/2008 4:01:09 PM

Do you have anything to support your assertion he is on sabbatical and not retired? I hope you realize that retired people do take sabbaticals.

Because the Chicago Tribune has him preaching his last sermon and all the news sites have him as retired. But please, play your game of semantics.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-wright_11feb11,1,4431179.story


And isn't it cute, the man who complains about ad hominems uses them himself. So much for being older, wiser, and more mature.

[Edited on March 24, 2008 at 4:11 PM. Reason : .]

3/24/2008 4:09:35 PM

Quote :

"So you're to the left of Obama? GG."

I don't know about Joe, but I certainly am!

Wright 2008.

3/24/2008 4:15:26 PM

^^ Actually, I double-sourced my "assertion," dumbass--the church secretary and the church's own Web site--can you read? Yeah, I know that Reverend Wrong is headed toward retirement, so what? See my following statement, which you also conveniently overlooked:

Quote :

"In any event, neither retirement nor sabbatical preclude him from defending the statements in question--I'm sure there are plenty of new outlets that would give him a platform."

Oh, and STFU.

3/24/2008 4:21:38 PM

His location doesn't matter anyway. He owes you and the media nothing. You have already shown a propensity to take his words out of context. Likewise, in many settings retirement and sabbatical are the exact same thing. Especially with ministers and professors.

3/24/2008 4:48:42 PM

^ No it isn't, you dumbass. "Sabbatical" is simply leave; "retirement" means you leave for good. And don't give me any "emeritus" bullshit--that's another thing entirely.

sabbatical:

Quote :

"a leave usually taken every seventh year"

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sabbatical

God damn you're dumb.

BTW, your man Obama took Reverend Wrong's ridiculous comments out of context, too, because he said they were "completely out of line and off the wall."

http://tinyurl.com/2kpfhw

STFU.

[Edited on March 24, 2008 at 10:25 PM. Reason : .]

3/24/2008 10:18:07 PM

Quote :

"^ No it isn't, you dumbass. "Sabbatical" is simply leave; "retirement" means you leave for good. And don't give me any "emeritus" bullshit--that's another thing entirely."

I hope realize that in many professions sabbatical and retirement are used to mean the exact same thing

Quote :

" BTW, your man Obama took Reverend Wrong's ridiculous comments out of context, too, because he said they were "completely out of line and off the wall.""

gasp, Obama is a politician. He did what was best for his campaign. Someone stop the fucking presses.

You really are one immature cunt.

[Edited on March 25, 2008 at 8:53 AM. Reason : .]

3/25/2008 8:52:49 AM