Steve Smith is a changed man, though. Said so himself...

Quote :

"That’s one of the reasons I prefer not to talk to the media. Not because I hate you guys or don’t like you but people cast perceptions. (People say) I’m trying to put a new spin on who I am. I’m 28 years old and when I was 22 I was a different guy, so I’m not trying to spin anything. You spend two hours with somebody and now you know them?"

Four days later, he cheapshots Ken Lucas.

So you'll have to excuse me if I have as much trouble believing Smith as I do Favre.

8/4/2008 6:39:32 PM

Smith obviously has problems, as does favre

8/4/2008 6:41:02 PM

at least when Smith slips up in the heat of battle once every 3-4 years, its on the field...unlike say...Nick Barnett

8/4/2008 6:41:21 PM

huh

8/4/2008 6:43:07 PM

Nick Barnett, the Packers linebacker who beat the shit out of somebody at a night club a month ago

Smith is a fiery beast when he's playing football...unfortunately that fire embarrassed the team the other day by punching his teammate...but off the field he's a loving father who does camps for kids, charities, etc...Barnett on the other hand is just a thug

8/4/2008 6:44:08 PM

I think if Lucas hit him back and they got into a scuffle

It would have just evolved into your run of the mill practice fight

No suspensions...maybe small fines for both

But Lucas had to be a lil bitch and cry to Foxy

Fucked it up for everyone

8/4/2008 6:44:09 PM

i cant help but think it went down like a mortal kombat uppercut

8/4/2008 6:47:17 PM

No Lucas was kneeling and Smith was standing up

So apparently Lucas was crouched for an uppercut but Smith tricked him and hit X for a low punch to the face

If Lucas was smart, he would've spun away from Smith's punch and taken him down with a leg sweep of his own

8/4/2008 6:49:12 PM

even if you are kneeling down, an uppercut can still be landed

smith would have had a quick tap down for a short kneel to start the uppercut

8/4/2008 6:57:35 PM

Quote :

"Nick Barnett, the Packers linebacker who beat the shit out of somebody at a night club a month ago"

Two things:

First, how are you going to call out an incident from a month ago, when we're talking about something that happened 3 days ago, which was 4 days after him talking about how he's a changed man? That's not even a week.

Also, by "a month ago" do you mean "a year ago"?

Quote :

"Early in the morning on Sunday, June 17th, 2007, Nick Barnett was arrested for battery after an altercation at the Wet Nightclub in Appleton, Wisconsin. ... The bar's owner later said that the whole incident had been blown out of proportion and that Barnett had been provoked by female fans who were anxiously seeking autographs."

Or maybe two years ago where there was an alleged altercation at a nightclub where Barnett was neither arrested nor ticketed.

Meanwhile I think we can all draw a line straight from Steve Smith's tiny little fist to Ken Lucas' broke little face.

8/4/2008 7:10:43 PM

Quote :

"Also, by "a month ago" do you mean "a year ago"?"

yes

Quote :

"Or maybe two years ago where there was an alleged altercation at a nightclub where Barnett was neither arrested nor ticketed."

i didnt even know he had a history of getting into shit off field...the panthers dont stand for that kind of stuff

and Smith's tiny little fists are pretty good at catching footballs...probably why yall gave the order to break his leg a few years back

Quote :

"The bar's owner later said that the whole incident had been blown out of proportion and that Barnett had been provoked by female fans who were anxiously seeking autographs."

i wonder if the Packers even had to pay him off to say that, or if its just that ingrained in everyone in Wisconsin's head that you don't tell on Packers players...even if what he said was true, Smith was provoked by a man...apparently Barnett gets provoked into fights by women

8/4/2008 7:13:21 PM

Don't forget that Favre never actually admitted that he changed his mind. According to him, the Packers "forced" him to announce his tearful retirement when he wasn't ready too.

8/4/2008 7:16:16 PM

because favre has showed himself to be a guy that marches to the beat of someone elses drum

8/4/2008 7:19:14 PM

Things that matter: Favre is back

Things that don't matter: this thread

8/4/2008 8:09:49 PM

TIRED


OF


FAVRE

8/4/2008 8:19:14 PM

ha, he aint back with the packers


he wants to be released

this keeps getting better and better

Quote :

"Favre says of situation: 'This probably isn't going to work'"

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3520064

my favorite line and why I love BF

Quote :

"they tried to buy me off to stay retired"

[Edited on August 5, 2008 at 2:27 PM. Reason : j]

8/5/2008 2:22:36 PM

haha

8/5/2008 5:54:00 PM

Fuck ya'll, I wanna play for Minnesota!!!

8/5/2008 6:11:41 PM

tampa

not as good as calipari, i wasn't as motivated this time



[Edited on August 5, 2008 at 6:41 PM. Reason : sdfsdf]

8/5/2008 6:27:51 PM

Is that supposed to be gruden?

8/6/2008 12:09:52 PM

I thought everyone knew gruden was called Chucky

8/6/2008 12:27:26 PM

haha, nice one

and supposedly the Bucs and Favre are close to getting a deal done today or tomorrow

mark your calendars for Sunday September 28th

8/6/2008 12:32:42 PM

ESPN ESPN ESPN...I realize you're going to cover the shit out of the Favre situation...but "Bay Watch"? Are you serious? "Bay Watch"?

8/6/2008 12:51:34 PM

i cant see why he thinks tampa is sooo much better (other than climate).... their WR situation isnt really the best either....

8/6/2008 1:50:37 PM

Galloway is underrated, but I guess he figures its a good coach, good defense, pretty good running game...and he gets to stick it to the Falcons!

8/6/2008 1:55:18 PM

He's a Jet

[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 11:51 PM. Reason : http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8381934/Favre-out:-Packers-trade-legend-to-Jets]

8/6/2008 11:51:07 PM

Cotchery still play for the jets?

8/6/2008 11:54:07 PM

Quote :

"Ernie All American 25037 Posts user info edit post My money is on Favre being traded by Friday 8/3/2008 5:10:34 PM"

8/6/2008 11:54:16 PM

Quote :

"Cotchery still play for the jets?"

.yes

8/6/2008 11:54:55 PM

Wow great news for J-Co.....his stock and fantasy value just went up!

He finally will get a good QB. Jets might be competitive now.

8/7/2008 12:04:55 AM

this doesn't make any sense at all

8/7/2008 12:07:03 AM

stupid bucs messed up again...don't get favre and piss off garcia even more.

way to go boys

and what does brett expect to do for the jets...guess they will win 6 or 7 this year instead of 4 or 5.

8/7/2008 12:09:28 AM

^^ It makes perfect sense.

Other than the QB, the Jet's have alot of pieces to win 8-10 games, especially given that they play the Dolphins and Buffalo twice each, as well as the Cardinals, Raiders, and Cincy...

This is a pretty easy schedule

8/7/2008 12:22:06 AM

Quote :

"this doesn't make any sense at all"

this makes lots of sense.

The Jets were a playoff team in 2006 with a horrible QB. Miami and Buffalo suck. Green Bay won't see the Jets unless both make the Super Bowl. How does this not make sense?


[Edited on August 7, 2008 at 12:26 AM. Reason : oops, 3 minutes too late]

8/7/2008 12:25:03 AM

i predict favre convinces the jets to trade him to the vikings. that'd be nuts

you heard it here first

8/7/2008 12:35:48 AM

Hit it, Ed!

8/7/2008 12:38:10 AM

HAHAHHAHA...Not Quite Yet.

Quote :

"It never ends. With the report that the Packers and Jets have agreed on a trade sending Brett Favre to New York, Chris Mortensen is now reporting that many obstacles need to be cleared to turn this into a reality, the most daunting of which would be Brett Favre, as reported on ESPN. Mort reports Favre is dying to get back in the league, but he had expressed strong concerns about going to New York. He wasn't excited about their team or their chances to compete, and he had pushed the Packers to trade him to Tampa Bay. Mort now believes the Packers simply ignored Favre and did what was best for them, and in fact may have intentionally designed this deal to influence Favre to once again consider retirement. He reports the Jets are likely to be on the phone right now, attempting to convince Favre to join the Jets, but in the end, the veteran passer still has the power in that he can still retire and walk away from it all. If his anger with the Packers is as strong as most reporters and friends believe it to be, that is not out of the realm of possibility. There will be more drama tomorrow, assuming this is not easily settled (and it sounds as if that is a long shot). We'll keep you posted along the way."

8/7/2008 12:41:17 AM

this actually isnt bad

you have to remember the jets spent well over 100 million this offseason, they have a new O line and terrible QB situation before this trade in 2 guys who couldnt throw more than about 30 yards.

not to mention Bubba Franks, one of Favres greatest friends is the TE in NY now...
get him J Co and they kid they drafted, the Jets have a playoff contention team.

If I was the Vikings or the Jaguars id be all over Pennington though thats for sure.

8/7/2008 1:01:59 AM

Chargers lay down the smack on MNF in week 3.

Favre throws 4 interceptions.

8/7/2008 1:08:44 AM

Quote :

"If I was the Vikings or the Jaguars id be all over Pennington though thats for sure."

Pennington sucks and is a pussy.

FYI David Garrard is a pretty damn good QB.

8/7/2008 1:31:04 AM

The last thing you need to do is combine Berrian with a QB with NO arm strength

8/7/2008 1:39:28 AM

david garrard is a beast

[Edited on August 7, 2008 at 2:29 AM. Reason : g]

8/7/2008 2:29:36 AM

lol the only thing i can think about is Mike & Mike in the morning and Greeny playing the michael bolton song when brett favre was mentioned as a possibility of being a Jet

8/7/2008 6:34:04 AM

Quote :

"i predict favre convinces the jets to trade him to the vikings. that'd be nuts you heard it here first"

I can almost guarantee you that there's no way the language of the trade would allow that.

Also:

Quote :

"Stein: For the record, I would have absolutely no problem with Favre playing for the Jets."

Still stands.

8/7/2008 7:50:32 AM

Note: If the Jets trade Favre to the Vikings, they would have the give the Packers 3 1st round picks.

8/7/2008 8:24:50 AM

if farve gets traded to the vikings NY has to give up three 1st round picks

8/7/2008 8:25:31 AM

What if they trade him to the cardinals who then trade him to the vikings...

And Brett Favre is only worth a 4th rounder? I know it is conditional, but the Jets arent going to do anything big.

8/7/2008 8:33:24 AM

I'm sure the poison pill is a little more vague than being reported.

Also, considering the Jets have brought in a ton of talent and make the playoffs every other year, it could very easily become a second round pick.

8/7/2008 8:39:59 AM

hopefully my j cotch fantasy numbers might go up

8/7/2008 8:54:54 AM

My Dad has still had his Jets Season Tix for 10 years which have been worthless. Now I will be at Brett Farve's Home opener against the Cheating Pats!!! I am actually pumped for football season this year.

8/7/2008 9:34:07 AM