^^i would think they keep most of the drugged, probably using the haitian/his blood somehow.

10/14/2008 10:12:49 AM

I don't think Sylar was staying in level 5 was he? I think he might have just been in a different level. And I'm guessing they have some technology that does it, who knows. Probably something that will never be explained.

10/14/2008 10:14:30 AM

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"So is Linderman truly dead now? "

he died in season 1, and it has been made clear he is just a projection this season.

10/14/2008 10:28:45 AM

I liked the other Ali Larter character better than this new Ali Larter chick.

10/14/2008 10:38:03 AM

So did momma Petrelli see an illusion or dream from the nightmare dude or did she just see the future and saw her husband? I am assuming the later because Parkman's dad has to be in the vicinity to make the illusion work and momma Petrelli was hidden at the base.

They really need to get rid of Mohinder. His character sucks. He's creepy but really not that interesting.

10/14/2008 10:41:27 AM

Am I the only person who figures that Parkman Sr. made Hiro and/or the others think that Hiro had stabbed Ando? He put that image into their minds to make Hiro turn hard and to make the speedster and the other dude think Hiro was hard. Seems obvious to me. It was too out of left field to have really happened in any way.

10/14/2008 10:43:15 AM

It seems random only because what would the reasoning for that be? I think Hiro did something to protect Ando.

10/14/2008 10:57:40 AM

I think considering that Parkman was revealed just a few minutes afterwards, right after Daphne told fake Linderman that she didn't want anyone to die, we can assume that he put the image of the murder in their heads. It was way too random otherwise, even for Heroes.

10/14/2008 10:59:53 AM

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"I still want to know who Barbara (twin sister to Jessica and Traci) is and what ability does she have and is she still alive. "

I thought it was just Nikki, Jessica, and Traci?

10/14/2008 11:05:11 AM

^Yeah that's what I thought too... they even said that Nikki used to have a twin sister, Jessica, and their drunk father killed her. But they have mentioned this Barbara character twice now.

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"I don't think Sylar was staying in level 5 was he?"

I think he is willingly staying there. He could easily break out if he wanted to (as evidence of how easily he cracked the glass when he threw Peter into it).

10/14/2008 11:30:05 AM

I thought Jessica was just Nikki's split personality, not an actual sister.

edit: http://heroeswiki.com/Jessica


I was just thinking, how was Nathan healed from the gunshots if Linderman was just an image from Parkman? the lasting affects of Adam's blood or something else?

[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 12:08 PM. Reason : .]

10/14/2008 12:03:47 PM

Peter did it somehow. He woke up right when Peter kissed him on the forehead.

btw, from the looks of next week's episode... how dumb can Claire be? Obviously her having a gun or a taser isn't gonna do much against the villains. That black hole guy could have easily destroyed her if he wanted to... he took her taser away without even having to think about it.

[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 12:16 PM. Reason : ]

10/14/2008 12:14:51 PM

I think in her mind, she's the only one that can survive a bullet to the face

She just has to be faster than they are with the powers

Plus, I think that's why the Hatian joins the group in the future and buddies around with her, and I guess if she gets hurt he just jogs around the block until she heals then comes back

10/14/2008 1:07:07 PM

How about this theory for why Hiro stabbed Ando. Maybe somehow Hiro knows that the black guy has Adam Monroe (remember he jacked him up in the alley and threw him in a van) and he is going to use his blood to bring Ando back to life?

10/14/2008 2:32:09 PM

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"So did momma Petrelli see an illusion or dream from the nightmare dude or did she just see the future and saw her husband? I am assuming the later because Parkman's dad has to be in the vicinity to make the illusion work and momma Petrelli was hidden at the base."

I think Mr. Petrelli exists outside of his body, and can enter your mind/dreams, sorta like the Indian kid except more malicious. And I say mind/dream as I don't know the extent of his powers, this is just a guess. Ms. Petrelli was using her powers, dreaming, and Mr. Petrelli entered her mind/dream - and made her essentially paralyzed.

I don't think Parkman Sr. has anything to do with it.

10/14/2008 3:15:35 PM

Hiro has to think he's going to come back in time to save him, or when they leave the bar freeze time and take him to a hospital or something

I can't imagine he'd turn on him so quickly without some type of plan for him

10/14/2008 4:03:37 PM

Yeah, he's desfinitely going to find out what he needs to, then go back and save ando.

10/14/2008 5:12:03 PM

but doesn't that go against his whole thing of not interfering with the past? he tried that with charlie and she still wound up dying

10/14/2008 6:47:17 PM

Well, he couldn't save her because he all of a sudden couldn't use his power anymore (why was that again? Spider Man 2 much?)

I think Hiro had a plan, but Ando is going to get out of this on his own and seek out Mohinder once he hears he can grant powers

10/14/2008 6:55:59 PM

Hiro as no plan. He just stabbed his friend to "fulfill his destiny, and save the world."

By now we can pretty much rule out any specific incident that anyone saw in the future.

10/14/2008 7:29:36 PM

there's so many things hiro could have done to save ando. i mean hell he could have stopped time bill and ted style and made preparations to make it look like ando died lol. (fake blood, etc).

i highly doubt that's what actually happened, but his power allows for such a thing.

10/14/2008 7:43:39 PM

"garbage can"

10/15/2008 4:33:10 AM

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"StingrayRush: but doesn't that go against his whole thing of not interfering with the past? he tried that with charlie and she still wound up dying Drovkin: Well, he couldn't save her because he all of a sudden couldn't use his power anymore (why was that again? Spider Man 2 much?"

when hiro went back to save charlie, she confessed to him she had cancer and wasn't going to live much longer when he asked her to go to japan with him...that's why he didn't/couldn't save her. she was dying anyway.

10/15/2008 9:14:10 AM

Dude.

I can't believe nobody thinks there's even a chance that this is all Parkman Sr's doing. Do you all not remember what he was able to do? He can make you see things. They even reminded us that his son has that same power in the same episode. Then, right after Hiro "stabbed Ando," Parkman Sr. is revealed.

I think that Petrelli Sr. is probably in a coma, and isn't using any power, whatever it is. Parkman Sr. is responsible for Mrs. Petrelli seeing Mr. Petrelli in her dream, and he's responsible for her being paralyzed, and he's responsible for causing the illusion that Hiro killed Ando.

I'd put money on it.

10/15/2008 10:25:39 AM

yeah parkman sr has been known to invade dreams before... like the little girl who can find people.

10/15/2008 10:33:53 AM

^^Petrelli Sr was looking at Parkman Sr

I doubt the part about Parkman Sr. is the reason that Ms. Petrelli is paralyzed... I think that's Petrelli Sr.'s power. I think it was also him in her dreams.

[Edited on October 15, 2008 at 11:27 AM. Reason : .]

10/15/2008 11:26:31 AM

Why would we want another character who can invade minds when we already have the Father/Son combo who, by the way, seem to be the only parent/child that have the same power?

10/15/2008 12:40:33 PM

Spoiler about ando and what happened: http://tinyurl.com/4j5ebw

10/15/2008 1:49:28 PM

Well I guess you were wrong.

10/15/2008 1:59:30 PM

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"I doubt the part about Parkman Sr. is the reason that Ms. Petrelli is paralyzed... I think that's Petrelli Sr.'s power. I think it was also him in her dreams."

Uh... I realize it sucked, but did you not watch Season 2, where Parkman Sr. pretty much did this same thing?

10/15/2008 2:34:24 PM

^^ Haha, oh noes! Yep, I was. AT least about Hiro. I still stand by my theory about Petrelli.

10/15/2008 3:34:43 PM

Angels and Monsters is the newest episode right?

10/15/2008 4:18:12 PM

yes

10/15/2008 4:33:15 PM

whoa

10/15/2008 4:53:13 PM

i think Mr. Petrelli is the darkman molly talked about in season 1

10/16/2008 4:23:58 PM

no way!

10/16/2008 4:28:56 PM

well that doesn't work b/c when Molly found "the boogeyman" for Parkman it was Parkman Sr's apartment

10/16/2008 4:52:43 PM

no the boogeyman was skylar, but then she said there was there was some one who was scarier than him out there

10/16/2008 4:59:11 PM

yeah, parkman's dad was the scarier guy

10/16/2008 5:02:20 PM

oh yeah, totally forgot about that dude. just when i thought i could forget season 2

10/16/2008 5:04:07 PM

OK, I know this is random and I may be wrong, but this thought came to me this morning as I was reading through the thread. Didn't Mohinder's dad use data from the human genome project to where he identified people with abilities? Weren't Nathan, Peter and Niki on that list? If their DNA was altered as infants, then how would they show up on Mohinder's dad's list?

I know it's not a big deal either way, just curious.

10/17/2008 9:31:17 AM

Because they came up with this storyline much later?

10/17/2008 10:17:56 AM

^^well their DNA was probably altered at or near birth, and the sample used for the human genome project was taken post-alteration.

10/17/2008 12:17:17 PM

Or maybe it's a list of people that have been altered, but misinterpreted

10/17/2008 1:36:26 PM

Or the company could have just altered their records to help hide their tracks.

10/17/2008 2:58:21 PM

I was thinking more along the lines of the writers producers thinking, "eh, it's a minute point, nobody will pick up on it or care, and if they do, so what? We're HEROES and we write whatever the hell want to write, regardless of how complicated, twisted, or retarded it is, b/c ppl will watch it."

10/17/2008 3:25:56 PM

^Heroes hasn't quite gotten to that point yet. Lost on the other hand...

10/17/2008 3:31:59 PM

^Yeah I agree. I was thinking more like a cocky writer's perspective when I said, "and people will watch it." When it comes to LOST, they could write crap for a few straight episodes and I would still watch it, I'm completely hooked on it. Heroes, I feel like it's gone downhill quickly and right now I could take it or leave it.

10/17/2008 3:56:08 PM

I think Heroes went down on Season 2, but it's ramped up considerably for me in Season 3. I do think there are a ton of little plot points they put in both seasons that they could explain, but I have a feeling a ton of them will be lost. Especially since the whole theme of Season 2 was you could "jump in" without having seen Season 1.

Season 3 on the other hand, needs to have Season 2 to know what's going on, which I bet is why it's not doing as well as it could. A lot of people gave up on Season 2, and nine months was a long time to wait and try to remember everything that happened.

10/17/2008 4:04:12 PM

Nice...that fucker was annoying.

10/20/2008 9:11:01 PM