Riiight. Because the Good 'Ol Boys really want a woman to sit at their poker table.

8/31/2008 8:40:26 PM

They'd play strip poker with her.

8/31/2008 8:44:34 PM

lol its sad the good oll boys party needs a gimmick like a hot broad

[Edited on August 31, 2008 at 8:48 PM. Reason : guess the same can be said for a black dude that talks well, though ]

[Edited on August 31, 2008 at 8:51 PM. Reason : ^^and what other reason would he have picked her? he aint gonna get many hillary supporters from her]

8/31/2008 8:48:22 PM

She's a fundamentalist wingnut from what people have said. She comes from a big oil state and can help beat the drums of McBush's recent flip-flop that pushes for more offshore drilling. She's a hot mom that can easily win the sympathy vote if Biden takes her to task like he could have with Hucklebuck or Willard. McBush seems to think that the male chauvinists in his party will vote for him no matter what.

[Edited on August 31, 2008 at 9:30 PM. Reason : .]

8/31/2008 9:27:08 PM

rabble rabble rabble big oil rabble rabble

The fact of the matter is, Palin's nuts are way bigger than yours, 5 kids or no. She's more manly than most of you panty waisted pansy liberals, maybe it's making you question your manhood, seeing such a fine babe who does more manly things than you could ever imagine.

8/31/2008 9:45:01 PM

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"can easily win the sympathy vote if Biden takes her to task"

fuck that she has to seem strong, she'll just pwn Biden...it won't look good for Biden to get pwnt by a woman

8/31/2008 10:15:55 PM

^^ For your sake I am going to assume you are using the ubiquitous "you" or else the only "fact of the matter" is that you are either a liar or a pervert. I will let you take "your" pick.

8/31/2008 10:26:35 PM

Quote :

"lol its sad the good oll boys party needs a gimmick like a hot broad"

its a total kick in the face move to Hillary and the Democratic party

35 years of experience or whatever

years of campaigning and millions of dollars down the drain (not to mention the millions she's in debt)

all for nothing, no nomination, not even on the ticket

then out of nowhere, this Palin chick pops up--no wasted time campaigning, little experience, no money lost over the last 2 years

If this works and John McCain wins, Hillary will never recover

it's genius

8/31/2008 10:28:39 PM

Quote :

"The fact of the matter is, Palin's nuts are way bigger than yours, 5 kids or no. She's more manly than most of you panty waisted pansy liberals, maybe it's making you question your manhood, seeing such a fine babe who does more manly things than you could ever imagine. "

So you like your women to be manly? That's kind of telling... maybe you and Larry Craig have more in common than you think.

8/31/2008 10:46:12 PM

The sexism in this thread makes me want to facepalm with hands full of radioactive flypaper.

9/1/2008 12:38:10 AM

Quote :

""--Go state by state and Obama wins 300 EV+ right now with aggregate polling in the states (which is what really matters). [made up my own evidence, woot!] --Go to intrade and he's trading at 60% to McCain's 40%..remember that's real people's money man, they don't play around. [made up my own evidence, woot!]"

actually, both of these were objective real criteria AND indicators that I felt held more weight than your suppositions on the state of the racing being a dead heat. I didn't 'make up' the evidence you simp, I simply pointed it out.

9/1/2008 12:55:08 AM

i am sorry, but democrats seriously underestimate how many rural ass white folks are gonna vote against his ass...i'm guessing obama doesnt underestimate this, but most democrats, imo, do

9/1/2008 12:59:14 AM

i dont underestimate that at all, but that's already taken account of in the models and state by state polling. It's one thing to run off a gallup national poll, quite another to run a picture of the race using ggregate trends state to state where it really matters.

Fact is, we elect presidents using an electoral college. So, all that matters are pivoting states like MI, PA, OH, FL, NV, CO, VA, NM, MT, and maybe even ND and NC. Of those, Obama is favored in enough to give him the inside edge to 270 electoral votes giving him the win.

Face it, he's going to likely win PA and NM ok? We're all pretty sure of that at this point....so all he has to do is hold MI (he's leading currently and hasn't dropped the lead since the start) and pickup any of the following (VA, OH, CO, NV, ND. NC) and it's ballgame over.

You can do the math yourself but I feel like holding Michigan and flipping one of those 6 states to blue is completely doable and likely. Last checked all of those states were neck and neck. We'll see what happens!

9/1/2008 1:10:43 AM

Michigan and Florida still have very bitter Hillary supporters who's votes were in dispute for a while

no telling what happens there

9/1/2008 1:12:25 AM

Can't be any worse than what's already in the polls to be honest. Or I can't see any reason for the buck to turn against the dem ticket any more than it already has. The convention was a release point...I mean, if that didn't turn the votes back into the fold nothing would. however, hightly doubtful it would have turned any more hillary voters all of a sudden AWAY.

And FL is going to McCain...I can see that. I'm seeing that it may be close but I think that's just a money trap state. Obama can feasibly win VA or CO for instance very easily. He's afforded this advantage thanks to great stances in WI and IA...

[Edited on September 1, 2008 at 1:17 AM. Reason : - ]

9/1/2008 1:16:45 AM

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"Q: Are you offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not? A: Sarah Palin: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance."

[Edited on September 1, 2008 at 1:41 AM. Reason : http://eagleforumalaska.blogspot.com/2006/07/2006-gubernatorial-candidate.html]

9/1/2008 1:34:48 AM

wow, nice.....
I suppose she thinks "In God We Trust" has been on our money for 230 years as well?

9/1/2008 1:38:10 AM

^^hahaha. bite her in the ass

9/1/2008 1:42:44 AM

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"So you like your women to be manly? That's kind of telling... maybe you and Larry Craig have more in common than you think."

I hate to burst your bubble, moron, since I bet you've swallowed more than one load in your day, but I like the coug.

She's a tough chick, hockeyroman is acting like there's some kind of good ol' boy system set up in the GOP, fact is that she'd fit right in. She has more qualities in line with men than most of the lefties in this thread, maybe the fact that she has more in common with the average guy than you do, moron, explains your automatic hatred for her.

9/1/2008 7:47:56 AM

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"She has more qualities in line with men than most of the lefties in this thread, maybe the fact that she has more in common with the average guy than you do, moron, explains your automatic hatred for her."

AHAHAHA! Awesome

On the topic..I think people are really underestimating the naivety of women and the collective power of MILFs. Look for Chickafilas to start popping up at an alarming rate.

9/1/2008 8:15:57 AM

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"the reason why its important to compare Palin to Obama is because within 1 year's time, McCain's face-goiter will eat his brain and he will be incapacitated. "

Thanks for the diagnosis doc. Here I thought the reason was because its alot easier to compare her to obama. Silly me, it was a face goiter(which is usually contained to the thyroid, but now spreads to face and brain... amazing discovery) that will make mccain unfit. Here I thought it was how many houses he had. Now we have houses and a brain eating face goiter. My god

9/1/2008 9:16:29 AM

Quote :

"A: Sarah Palin: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.""

Wow. A dumb thing to say in the first place and a poor, but typical, understanding of history.

9/1/2008 9:16:41 AM

LET THE PARTY BEGIN

9/1/2008 9:35:38 AM

Andrew Sullivan re: the secret baby rumors:

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"If McCain had vetted her, the Internet wouldn't have to. And this would be a private matter if the McCain-Palin campaign hadn't made the baby a key campaign point. Once they made it a reason to vote for someone, it's reasonable for bloggers to ask questions about it, especially when there are so many strange twists to the story. But, look: I hope this isn't true, and it can easily be disproved quickly. I'll immediately post any evidence that answers the questions."

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/its-about-the-v.html

That's the thing. To pick a candidate without vetting her whatsoever just shows such poor judgment and such lack of foresight that you have to wonder what else McCain is gonna do.

9/1/2008 11:37:31 AM

^^^ She has huge balls though so it's okay.

9/1/2008 11:47:53 AM

The daughter is pregnant (or as Obama would put it, "punished with a baby") and will marry the father instead of having an abortion. Can we expect Biden to trumpet the family business in their debate, a la Edwards?

[Edited on September 1, 2008 at 12:20 PM. Reason : -]

9/1/2008 12:17:28 PM

so does Palin's connection with the Alaska Independence Party and some of their secessionist beliefs bother anyone?

9/1/2008 12:23:12 PM

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"So, please, stop. There are dozens and dozens of legitimate reasons to oppose Sarah Palin — everything from her position on drilling to that on polar bears; her flip-flopping on the Bridge to Nowhere; her pro-life advocacy to her opposition to marriage equity. Let's focus on those legitimate reasons as to why people should oppose Sarah Palin and the McCain-Palin ticket rather than trying to be the next Karl Rove because, as Dan Rather might say, when you wrestle with a pig (i.e., shitty rumors like these), all you get is shit on you and the pig kind of likes it."

http://jezebel.com/5044017/sarah-palin-rumors-some-people-are-taking-the-low-road

9/1/2008 1:14:14 PM

I agree, its stories like this that should be covered.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26486063/

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"Palin flipped on Alaska’s ‘Bridge to Nowhere’ She's touted her opposition to pork projects, but initially welcomed funds"

9/1/2008 2:54:33 PM

Man, the shit is hitting the fan. They should have done more vetting that's for sure.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/The_Palin_chronicles.html

9/1/2008 11:56:39 PM

nice. Glad to see that Palin "flipped", while Obama only "gets accused of flipping." Nice, balanced journalism, there, msnbc.

but, it's gonna be great to laugh at the democrats again when they lose to even this poor excuse for a ticket.

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 12:06 AM. Reason : ]

9/2/2008 12:02:40 AM

Dude the voters will have their say...this is a whirling storm of shit and it reflects very poorly on McCain's judgment.

I mean think about it and be honest here - it was just like one of those commenters said - the most important decision John McCain has made in this election that would model his presidency was simply a hair trigger decision that was not thought through. He has a history of that and who the shit wants someone like that with his finger on the button? You can get mad all you want but it's the truth.

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 12:10 AM. Reason : -0]

9/2/2008 12:09:46 AM

Obama just hit his highest point EVER in the polls: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html#chart

These are numbers after Palin, but they don't reflect the Repub convention.


[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 12:39 AM. Reason : ]

9/2/2008 12:37:20 AM

Also, here's Obama's take on the whole issue:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_Peoples_families_are_off_limits_0901.html

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""Let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off limits, and people's children are especially off limits," said Obama. "This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. "I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories," Obama continued. "My mother had me when she was 18, and how family deals with issues and teenage children -- that shouldn't be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who's supporting me understands that's off limits." When a journalist followed up by referring to McCain campaign charges that liberal blogs, some even tied to Obama, were behind rumors about Palin, the Illinois senator interjected, "I am offended by that statement. There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us. "I hope I am as clear as can be, so in case I'm not, let me repeat: We don't go after people's families, we don't get them involved in the politics," Obama continued. "It's not appropriate and it's not relevant. "Our people were not involved in any way in this and they will not be. And if I ever thought that it was somebody in my campaign that was involved in something like that, they'd be fired," closed Obama before departing."

If I was a McCain supporter, I would spin this by saying Obama is portraying the birth of a child as an "issue" that rebellious "teenage children" have rather than a beautiful gift from GOD, and it's clear he's still bitter that his dad left him because his mom was probably too immature to form a meaningful relationship at the time.

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 1:30 AM. Reason : ]

9/2/2008 1:27:53 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYYiw_y2qDI

this is a pretty good watch.. Tucker Bounds (McCain Campaign) gets owned on CNN after being asked about Palin's experience

9/2/2008 1:34:18 AM

Quote :

"Pupils DiL8t All American 2324 Posts user info edit post Quote : "I hope Obama has the foresight to never make her his VP." Obama/Biden FTW? 7/24/2007 8:17:17 PM"

I'm not sayin I was the first.

I'm just sayin.

9/2/2008 3:37:24 AM

haha dude is fidgeting with his wedding ring

9/2/2008 11:14:30 AM

My vote for McCain is seriously wavering now with his choice of Palin. I am appaled by her pro-life family values platform, think she lacks expierence, and find her relationship w/ big oil disturbing. Not to mention the ongoing investigation in the trooper scandal.

I very well may not vote. The potential though is rising for a possible conversion to Obama. I liked McCain for his moderate aisle crossing tactics as a senator. Lately though he has been reminding me of a Bush Jr.; than now he has this Palin woman on his ticket.

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM. Reason : a]

9/2/2008 12:17:35 PM

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/2/1613/27485/447/581295

9/2/2008 1:04:22 PM

^dailykos...lol

9/2/2008 1:10:24 PM

Feel free to disprove any of it.

9/2/2008 1:14:37 PM

dbl post

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 1:19 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2008 1:19:02 PM

i dont need to disprove a liberal smear blog

the sad thing is you probably have people who actually think this isnt biased

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"Him: Impressive figure on the national stage who knows how Congress works and is engaged with foreign policy issues. Her: small state governor for 21 months; "next to Russia", but that is just 1 of the 190 countries in the world she has never been to."

Quote :

"Him: sponsored 800 bills. Her: swayed 616 voters."

9/2/2008 1:19:28 PM

So you agree that all of those facts are true?

9/2/2008 1:21:27 PM

this is false

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"Sworn in as the fifth-ever African-American U.S. senator"

he's not African American...lots of other incorrect info as well

9/2/2008 1:22:47 PM

lol.

9/2/2008 1:25:36 PM

if he was african american why would he bring up his white grandmother when trying to defend his ultra racist spiritual advisor of 20 years?

9/2/2008 1:26:42 PM

semantics. He's both white and African American, they both apply at any given time.

However if you are of mixed ethnicity, your minority status will delineate you in classifications and files. At least this is how it is in the corporate world anyhow....I'm speaking as an HR leader at my company so I know a little about this.

9/2/2008 1:35:15 PM

If you're 7/8 white and 1/8 African American, are you still classified as African American?

9/2/2008 1:39:06 PM

His dad was never AFrican-American. his dad is straight out African.

Quote :

"If you're 7/8 white and 1/8 African American, are you still classified as African American?"

one drop rule that is found throughout this countries race laws.

[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 1:39 PM. Reason : .]

9/2/2008 1:39:21 PM