the lineman really had nothing to do with the fact that Utah had their way with Alabama on offense for much of the game or the fact that utah's secondary played extremely well

1/3/2009 12:48:47 AM

and the ole miss win just means the conference is deep, it doesn't measure how strong its strongest teams are

unless you're suggesting ole miss is one of the strongest teams in the SEC

1/3/2009 12:48:53 AM

you don't think ole miss was the 4th best team in the SEC at the end of the season?

1/3/2009 12:51:24 AM

i don't think ole miss is as strong as florida or alabama, despite the whole "beating florida" thing

1/3/2009 12:52:50 AM

if bama's o-line if full strength... they don't give up 8 sacks, the run game is more productive, the passing game is more productive, and they have even more control of the clock than they did. you obviously didn't watch alabama all year...


their o-line was their strength all year... just like wilson was our strength all year. it was an achilles heel this game for bama.... for the reasons already stated.

1/3/2009 12:59:06 AM

blah blah blah

if my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle.

If can't honestly argue that if you had two fucking lineman that you would have won the game.

Whatever. Take off your rose colored glasses cause we didnt watch the same game.

And yes, I have seen alabama play several times this year, they didnt blow anybody out, got it handed to them in the SEC title game and in this game as well.

1/3/2009 1:10:29 AM

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"they didnt blow anybody out, got it handed to them in the SEC title game and in this game as well."

they blew out 8 teams this year...but that is beside the point. don't know why you brought it up.


and NC State can't honestly argue that if we had Wilson we would have won the game.
Whatever. Take off your rose colored glasses cause we didn't watch the same game.

oh wait....

1/3/2009 1:26:47 AM

You are crazy if you don't think losing the player that some people think is the best in college football didn't have a huge bearing on the game.


However, that is part of football. Players get hurt, injured, suspended, etc. I'm sure Utah had guys missing we just don't know about for various reasons as well. Part of football, maybe even more so then any other sport due to the high number of injuries and the suspensions that always happen prior to bowls is having depth. Saban admitted during his press conference that an issue with their team was depth, and analysis have been saying that all year about Bama. Part of a great team and a teams strength in football is their depth, and to discredit Utah for their win because Bama was missing a player, albeit a great one, ignores the fact that this happens in football all the time.

But you don't know anything about football if you can honestly say losing your best lineman, the best lineman in football, doesn't have a huge affect on your team.

1/3/2009 1:44:39 AM

the blowout comment was more of a troll than anything else. I watched the clemson and uga games.

however, what you are saying involves a whole bunch of IFs. What if you could stop the wildcat late in the game. Maybe you would have had a better chance then too.

Having those linemen may have helped, but the poster is flat out assuming that alabama would have definitely won the game. I didnt see alabama show up on the defensive side of the ball, which, if they had shown up, would have made up for the holes in their offense.

Just be happy that you had a good year and will be poised for a run next year and got beat pretty easily by a team that, on this night, was much better than you were



[Edited on January 3, 2009 at 1:52 AM. Reason : sarcasm]

1/3/2009 1:45:30 AM

Quote :

"UNDEFEATED RUNNER UP"

1/3/2009 2:59:25 AM

I haven't read the thread at all, but its funny how a lot of these upset/suprise outcome games keep making the announcers talk shit about the BCS program and how it doesn't accurately determine the best team of the year.

1/3/2009 3:13:04 AM

^that's b/c it's the truth.

1/3/2009 4:01:09 AM

Quote :

" Quote : "now where is goalilax now?" lol - sorry i wasn't reading and posting to TWW at 11:30pm on new year's eve"

neither was I...

1/3/2009 4:07:05 AM

the SEC is still 5-2 in bowl games which is only behind the Pac-10 who (outside of USC) were horrible during the season. Utah is a good team...everyone is acting like Alabama was just beaten by Elon.

Big 10: 1-5
Big 12: 3-2
Big East: 3-2
ACC: 4-6
SEC: 5-2
PAC 10: 5-0

1/3/2009 8:33:01 AM

What I worry about with teams like this is that conferences that the media doesn't suck off in football (ie. ACC, Big East) they are eventually going to do away with the BCS conferences and go based on BCS standings. The media loves the Big 10 god only knows why as they are the worst of the BCS conferences, yet they got 2 BCS teams Hope the Suckeyes get destroyed by Texas.

If Bama could defend a slant pass maybe they wouldn't have lost last night.

1/3/2009 10:49:04 AM

Penn State showed they deserved to play with the big boys in the Rose Bowl this year

Still don't buy Ohio State getting a BCS bid thou

1/3/2009 10:54:01 AM

ehhhhh, not sure about that one.

penn state got their shit totally wrecked in the rose bowl this year.

1/3/2009 10:55:02 AM

arguing about the BCS system is like arguing with a brick wall, there's always going to be teams that get screwed out of it. The only way to alleviate it is an 8 team playoff, but then there will be teams screwed out of that too.

Quote :

"while the championship game features a team that got beat by OLE MISS and a team that shouldn't even be their conference champion..."

who should be their conference champion?

[Edited on January 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM. Reason : V oh you're just too clever]

1/3/2009 11:21:49 AM

I'm still trying to figure out here's conference champion.

1/3/2009 11:28:31 AM

texas should have played in the conference championship

you can't argue against the BCS and not agree with that statement

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i don't like how biased the int'l bowl crowd is

i'm guessing for another half decade or so thats how all of uconn's bowl games are going to be

the only reason our crowd wasn't MONUMENTALLY DWARFED last year at the Car Care Lolz was because it was wake forest...

[Edited on January 3, 2009 at 12:19 PM. Reason : UCONN]

1/3/2009 12:17:57 PM

Texas was two DBs tackling a receiver in bounds from going to the big 12 championship, the play before they dropped an easy interception too.

so why does texas deserve to go over OU? OU played better at the end of the season, i'm not sure what argument you can make for texas that you can't make for the other two teams. You have to take the team that was playing the best at the end of the season.

[Edited on January 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM. Reason : forgot they still had time on the clock.]

[Edited on January 3, 2009 at 12:28 PM. Reason : .]

1/3/2009 12:23:17 PM

DONNIE MOTHERFUCKING BRASCO

[Edited on January 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM. Reason : ^45-35 is the only argument i need]

1/3/2009 12:34:50 PM

Quote :

"penn state got their shit totally wrecked in the rose bowl this year."

so "totally wrecked" is losing by 14 points after putting up 410 yards of offense and 24 points on the #1 defense in the country

jesus christ people, hyperbole much?

1/3/2009 12:44:36 PM

that penn st game wasnt as close as the final score indicated.


Penn St. scored twice in garbage time. The game was way past being over at the half

1/3/2009 12:59:04 PM

FUCK!

fuck fuck fuck

just make them coffin corner your ass, stop sending people back to pick up the punts

1/3/2009 1:00:35 PM

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"WHAT THE FUCK"

1/3/2009 1:15:37 PM

What. The. Fuck. Was That.

So Donald Brown has 200 yards rushing and they're losing. 5 turnovers? Please let Endres or Frazier play QB.

V thats the point. they can actually throw. lorenzen has a girl's arm..

[Edited on January 3, 2009 at 1:50 PM. Reason : x]

1/3/2009 1:46:52 PM

it's not the QB

it's the special teams

QB has only attempted one pass

1/3/2009 1:49:14 PM

nym, this is fucking painful

donnie better have like 350-400 yards when this is done or we're fucked

1/3/2009 1:59:40 PM

any big announcements in the Army All-American game yet?

1/3/2009 2:01:20 PM

SUCK IT UP REF, YOU'RE FUCKING WITH THE MOMENTUM

1/3/2009 2:10:57 PM

is NY's governor UConn's special teams coach?

1/3/2009 2:23:41 PM

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"that penn st game wasnt as close as the final score indicated. Penn St. scored twice in garbage time. The game was way past being over at the half"

It was closer than the final score indicated. Penn State had the ball in scoring range with 45 sec left on the clock after USC center hiked the ball to the endzone. A quick TD pass and a successful onside kick would have really put a kink in the USC recruiting show.

So you really think that USC's defense wasn't playing hard in the 2nd half when Penn St. put up 17 points on them. If the rose bowl was played in happy valley Penn State would have won that game.

[Edited on January 3, 2009 at 3:01 PM. Reason : .]

1/3/2009 2:39:54 PM

so if they played the game at Beaver, then Bradley would have employed man coverage instead of that typical 10-yards off bullshit that let Williams go off for 200+ receiving?

that game could have been played on a playstation and the outcome wouldn't have been different. PSU seemed unprepared, outcoached, outsmarted and unable to adjust

and don't get me started on the horrible misuse of timeouts near the end of the game

1/3/2009 2:45:21 PM

are you really serious?

USC would beat Penn St. 98 out of 100 times on any field you wanted to play at.

It may have been closer on playstation, but the game I saw was a one sided shit show

Plz to stop playing the big ten champ every year.


[Edited on January 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM. Reason : .]

1/3/2009 2:45:51 PM

^^^^ Nixon to FL but i guess that was a given. Him throwing the Miami hat on the ground was pretty

1/3/2009 2:46:02 PM

USC has a huge home field advantage. They are loose and they never have to get them out of their comfort zone. Make them travel and play Penn State at home and it would have been a different story. And no, Virginia does not count as a real road test for USC.

The first half USC won. The second half Penn State won. I didn't see a rout.

1/3/2009 3:05:20 PM

Quote :

"lorenzen has a girl's arm.."

understatement of the day

jesus he is awful

1/3/2009 3:05:36 PM

^^ you can't be serious.

I don't even like USC but i can recognize their dominance. Penn St. still LOST by 2 touchdowns. If not for two garbage scores when the USC defense had let up, it would have been worse.

If being down 31-7 at the half and getting dominated throughout the game is not the makings of a rout, I don't know what else.

As I said before, this game was not as close as the score indicated

1/3/2009 3:13:29 PM

someone at the International Bowl was wearing an NCSU sweatshirt.

1/3/2009 3:21:28 PM

i had to stop watching sometime in the 3rd quarter on that usc-psu game. they were fucking raped in that first half. it wasnt even enjoyable.

1/3/2009 3:22:34 PM

UUUU CONNNNNNN

1/3/2009 3:34:27 PM

congrats

1/3/2009 3:36:22 PM

well thank you

i would have much rather uconn play in the papajohn's bowl against state

that would have been fun to watch

and i could have gone to that one...

1/3/2009 3:47:58 PM

Quote :

"Penn St. still LOST by 2 touchdowns. If not for two garbage scores when the USC defense had let up, it would have been worse."

Dude, why would USC's defense let up? They went all year long and only allowed 3TD in the 2nd half. Why would they decide to just give up now and let Penn State score 17 in the last quarters of the season? For a good defense, thats what they live for, keeping people out of the endzone. They don't won't anyone to score ever, even when the game is deemed to be over. It would make more sense if you said that USC let up on offense, but even that is not the case cause Sanchez was in the game the entire time.

PSU (11-2) 7 0 0 17 24
USC (12-1) 7 24 0 7 38

Its funny how Penn State was the only team this year that was able to get in garbage TD's against USC. I will agree that as far as Herbstreight or Musberger was concernd the game was over after half time, this allowed them to fully devote the second half to licking USC's ass.

1/3/2009 4:08:55 PM

as far as everyone was concerned, it was over by then.

Another year, another Big Ten in the rose bowl.

Its a tradition like the masters

1/3/2009 4:15:30 PM

for the first time in a while, I'm not very excited about watching the Buckeyes bowl game tonight

maybe this will be some sort of reverse mojo for the team

1/5/2009 10:03:03 AM

sir, please support your team. I'm rockin the Pryor jersey today.

1/5/2009 10:41:53 AM

oh I'm supporting them 100%, I'm just not gonna talk shit or be overly optimistic like I have been for the Florida, LSU and USC games

1/5/2009 10:49:20 AM

getting thumped in big time spotlight games will do that to ya

1/5/2009 10:51:20 AM