Battlefield has never been a "run and gun" game. Leave that to Modern Warfare. I've had no problem with getting kills while "mobile" though.


Working on the M95 unlock now. I've been sort of ranking up all the classes simultaneously so I'm not there yet. Throw me a friend request: saturnein on PC. I'm on most nights.

3/17/2010 4:15:05 PM

i unlocked the 12x scope last night for recon and damn what a difference that makes when sniping.. i've been seeing a lot of medic classes with that one particular upgraded LMG that seems to pwn everyone. everytime i go up against someone that has it, i have no chance it seems. i dont know which one exactly it is though..

3/18/2010 8:40:32 AM

^Yea I have noticed that M60 can chew you the fuck up. I have been trying to steal that kit whenever we kill one of those bastards. I really need to work on the medic class, as I only recently got the medkit and do not have the defib.

3/18/2010 8:43:19 AM

It is taking me forever to level up. I fear my MW2 play experience is doing more harm than good in this game.

3/18/2010 9:07:04 AM

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"I fear my MW2 play experience is doing more harm than good in this game."

yep, this game rewards tight squad work and using cover/odd angles to good effect to attack or defend positions. rambo-ing is mostly ineffectual.

you'll start leveling faster once you start getting stars and insignia (500 for bronze (25 kills with a weapon), 1000 for silver(50 kills with a weapon), 5000 for gold (100 kills with a weapon)) all insignia are 5000 or 10000 points

[Edited on March 18, 2010 at 11:00 AM. Reason : s]

3/18/2010 10:58:33 AM

got my first platinum star the other night in heavy vehicles. to clear any confusion, after you get 9 gold stars, the next one is platinum.

i'm interested to see if you can get stars for kills with the repair tool. i already have 3 kills with it - once i anti-repaired a tank with it to kill the driver and i have killed 2 others with it on foot (which is always lol)

3/18/2010 11:32:30 AM

nice, you play as goalielax right? (add me Jack Forge) to your friends list, who do you play with now? 21cw still?

3/18/2010 11:41:41 AM

yeah, i'm GoalieLax on the PC. haven't done much tourney stuff since the days of Napalm Dawn and the BF2 FFTF tourney. Still play with a bunch of those guys (HBomb, Wired, Viper, MrChlorophyll) and a bunch of MOHAA guys I played with (thou they're more MW guys).

Did see 21CW tags in BC2 - looked it up and saw they're on campaign 37 or something crazy like that

i'll be sure to add you in game

[Edited on March 18, 2010 at 2:10 PM. Reason : .]

3/18/2010 2:03:33 PM

Which vehicle specialization do y'all prefer? I'm a big user of Reload since I feel that most tank battles can be won by putting out more fire faster than the other guy. Reload on light tanks works wonders against infantry, too.

3/18/2010 2:36:55 PM

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"once i anti-repaired a tank"

HAHA you can anti-repair?? had no idea at all, i gotta try that.

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"Which vehicle specialization do y'all prefer?"

i typically use the more powerful ammo one; my reasoning is the same as your's for head-to-head tank battles. i figure the tank with the more powerful punch will come out ahead.

[Edited on March 18, 2010 at 3:50 PM. Reason : .]

3/18/2010 3:49:18 PM

DLC was due to drop today but it was delayed at the last minute. Follow officialbfbc2 on twitter if you are interested.

3/18/2010 4:15:22 PM

if you're going to drive the APC, secondary firs is almost necessary - that tow missile makes short work of other armor. also, in the helo, secondary fire is a must. the gunner can place tracking darts and the pilot has dart tracking hellfire missiles. come to think of it, unless i know i'm not driving the APC or am gunning in the tank, i almost always use secondary weapons

yeah, you can anti-repair. it's awesome knifing the dude healing them and then impact wrenching the tank to death. lol-worthy.

3/18/2010 8:20:39 PM

why do i have to reselect my kit every single game, why doesnt it save like in MW2?

3/18/2010 8:22:29 PM

Just picked an M95 off an enemy.


Holy shit this thing is awesome.

3/18/2010 8:29:11 PM

Most awesome. Tank destruction. Round. EVER.

Got to play a few short rounds with maticwin and one of his friends earlier in the day, and we went completely crazy. As defense on Port Valdez, I killed 9 tanks and 1 4-wheeler with just landmines. I was 21-7 for the round, and earned a ridiculous number of pins including Elite Multiple Target. Rounds like that make me absolutely LOVE this game, when you're working with people who actually know how to cooperate and function as a team. It was insanely fun.

3/18/2010 9:06:43 PM

this game is obviously a straight console game ported to the PC

the communication options are horrible, i guess they assume you are all on the microphones like on the console.

3/19/2010 2:41:19 AM

Yeah, Axelay and I (maticwin) owned yesterday. I'll be on this evening as well to play some more Rush. We only had 3 team members in our squad, but we were definitely the reason we won every round. I honestly think I might have lost 1 game out of the last 30 when playing with friends.

3/19/2010 10:06:07 AM

may be a stupid question only cause i dont know enough about this stuff but i'm assuming an xbox360 server will not be displayed in a pc server listing, correct? like players from different consoles cant join the same server right? pc can only join pc and so on?

3/19/2010 10:18:36 AM

I will definitely be back on tonight. My wife is gonna be out of town, so I can game all I feel like.

The 3 of us joined a game on Isla Innocentes and demonstrated the single greatest example of how one coordinated squad can make a difference. Our team was down to 30 tickets on the first base and had only taken 1 crate, and when we saw what was happening, we jumped in and proceeded to immediately take the remaining crate. From there, we stomped all the way through the other crates and won the round. It was a fantastic effort.

3/19/2010 11:01:18 AM

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"may be a stupid question only cause i dont know enough about this stuff but i'm assuming an xbox360 server will not be displayed in a pc server listing, correct? like players from different consoles cant join the same server right? pc can only join pc and so on?"

Yeah, it's not cross-platform compatible, unfortunately.

3/19/2010 11:02:04 AM

This is a great fan website and you can look up anybody's stats as well. How and where do sites like this get stats from? http://battlefieldbadass.com

3/19/2010 12:08:29 PM

^^ damn that sux, too bad there is no way to make it cross-platform

3/19/2010 2:46:19 PM

for the pc game you need at least 2 squads working together to really steam roll the other team as their squads tend to work pretty tightly by default.

I can see that on the console that good team play is, comparatively, somewhat lacking

i use alt weapons or hardened warheads.... i should try reload on the apc on the apc armor only maps though....

i get my stats from http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/Jack%20Forge

but to get yours you have to get yourself on the que then hope it actually loads you, i spent almost a week getting my character logged and stats finally. it takes some stubbornness...

neostead-2000 shotgun ridiculousness and a good example of why the knife needs to be nerfed. http://battlefieldbadass.com/videos/view/why-neostead-2000-badass

3/19/2010 2:49:59 PM

What funny is that after all this talk about stats, EA BC2 now supports leaderboards as of today.

3/19/2010 5:20:54 PM

http://bfbc2.elxx.net another great stats website.

3/20/2010 12:07:17 PM

PC:
General Ben
nighthawkbravo
Jack Forge
NighthawkCP
ShrikeT

Just adding myself to the PC list.

3/20/2010 4:18:23 PM

Finally unlocked the Gol, Defib, and some more shit today. Lot easier doing shit as a Medic when you can actually heal and revive guys. Points are coming in much faster now.

3/20/2010 11:55:31 PM

Recon with NS2000, C4, 12gauge, and magnum ammo is so fun! Everyone runs near you cause youre recon And loading a buggy up with 3 C4 and jihading that shit into a tank is priceless

[Edited on March 21, 2010 at 5:37 AM. Reason : youre]

3/21/2010 5:37:18 AM

EXTREMELY good information

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_f12Ul2hr2fY/S5_SpSAtWXI/AAAAAAAABHM/jDWNCr6itNk/s1600-h/bc2_weapon_breakdown.jpg

I'd save a copy if I were you.

This is even better:

http://denkirson.xanga.com/722757523/bad-company-2/

[Edited on March 21, 2010 at 10:02 AM. Reason : /]

3/21/2010 9:56:32 AM

saw my first player get kicked and banned from a server for using an aimbot. how do those things work anyway, anyone know? i'd google it but being at work all the game sites are blocked.

3/22/2010 9:47:19 AM

So what's the general consensus on this game? I'm looking at getting it for PC. This or MW2? Would you recommend it?

3/22/2010 10:14:19 AM

^^ Aimbots can work in different ways, but generally if you have an aimbot if you are even near a player when you ADS he snaps on their head - basically aim and shoot and auto-had shot.

^If you a very team oriented game buy BC2, if you like getting steam-rolled with kill streaks and tactical knives, having high blood pressure from yelling WTF THAT'S BULLSHIT buy MW2.

[Edited on March 22, 2010 at 10:50 AM. Reason : /]

3/22/2010 10:50:20 AM

how can a mod or anyone else know that someone is using an aimbot tho? im not looking to use it cause i dont cheat, just more a curiosity thing.

3/22/2010 12:00:55 PM

I believe it's based on reaction time, etc. It is usually fairly obvious when a guy is using an Aimbot on any FPS game. PB is usually pretty good about picking it up and killing it immediately, though sometimes it sneaks through.

3/22/2010 12:05:19 PM

Probably looking at reaction times. Punkbuster (what is used in BC2 in case you did not know), while not the best ever anti-cheat software could probably detect this after it collects enough data from the player in question. Its one thing to have a freakishly fast reaction here an there, but to have a ridiculous KD and extremely high reaction all the time is enough. Its more sophisticated than that, but that's probably the gist of it.

3/22/2010 12:05:31 PM

Punkbusters is installed on the machine and scans the memory for known cheat programs running.

The admin on a server would use more of the method you suggested to ban somebody. If somebody rolls into a server has a 10/0 or higher KD ratio and has killed every person by a headshot and isn't a damn sniper, he is probably aimbotting.

3/22/2010 12:24:38 PM

Was too busy to play much this weekend, but I am working on filling out all my categories. Working engineer now, and damn, the XM8 is badass. The firerate is so fast, that if you have that person in your sites, he has no chance when you pull the trigger. Love it.

3/22/2010 12:40:38 PM

The distance is not great on it, and bullet damage drops fast over distance, but still is pretty good weapon overall. The PP2000 is better though.

[Edited on March 22, 2010 at 12:44 PM. Reason : /]

3/22/2010 12:43:56 PM

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"^If you a very team oriented game buy BC2, if you like getting steam-rolled with kill streaks and tactical knives, having high blood pressure from yelling WTF THAT'S BULLSHIT buy MW2."

Quoted for gospel-like truth.

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"Was too busy to play much this weekend, but I am working on filling out all my categories. Working engineer now, and damn, the XM8 is badass. The firerate is so fast, that if you have that person in your sites, he has no chance when you pull the trigger. Love it."

Although the UMP is my first choice for Engineer weapons, I love the Uzi for its rate of fire at close quarters. It's substantially higher than the XM8C, plus it's more accurate and readies faster. I know everybody seems to love the AKS-74U, but I hate that thing compared to the Uzi.

3/22/2010 2:16:30 PM

The magic of the UZI, and the PP2000 as well, is that they are the best weapons at firing off the hip. All the other engineer weapons are better fired while ADS.

3/22/2010 2:19:15 PM

I don't understand why someone would play a Rush game... and then sit on a hilltop somewhere with a sniper rifle for the entire round and not actually assist their team in winning. Even worse is being in a squad with 3 people doing that. If I wasn't so overly driven to win, I'd spend the round constantly lobbing smoke canisters in their area.

3/23/2010 11:30:21 AM

yea last night i was in the worst game in a while.. i dont think anyone in my entire team was in a squad. i did looking for squad the entire round and nothing. needless to say we got steam rolled by one, maybe two squads of three..

3/23/2010 11:34:56 AM

^^ i have no problem with Recon class doing that if and only if they are constantly spotting enemies and calling for mortar support. now if they are doing none of the 2 then they are a waste and lend no help to arming/disarming. i've had many successful winning rounds where i've done exactly that for my team: spot, call in mortar support and snipe an occasional enemy. as for being in a Recon squad, again i see no issue with that as long as, again, everyone is spotting for the frontal assault squads.

3/23/2010 11:39:02 AM

^^^I snipe a lot on Rush and win. In fact I only snipe in Rush. This is how I help my team:

- Use the Spot scope. Its ridiculously effective.
- Call in Mortar strikes on the objective. Wen we played last night I killed 4 objectives in one game with Destruction 2.0.
- Smoke is effective against snipers, but they can always resort to moving in closer and using the VSS with the 4x scope and magnum ammo, and stay near an assault person to re-up on ammo and use Spot mines.
- Also even if you get smoked you out, you still can serve as a spawn point for your squad so that they can spawn closer to the objective.

I know you are going to come with this and that about why I am wrong or whatever about how snipers are not contributing, but they do contribute greatly if you are playing to help your team and not your KD.

On the Spot scope: A lot of people claim it doesn't work right all the time, but its works right all the time! Its effective range is 75 meters, beyond that you have to Spot manually.

[Edited on March 23, 2010 at 11:53 AM. Reason : /]

3/23/2010 11:48:35 AM

there is a sniper class for a reason

3/23/2010 12:02:50 PM

the aks-74u is more accurate than the uzi for medium range to long range this makes a difference, xm8-c though is pretty good even at range...

working through medic then recon last (gonna use them universal guns on recon mostly i think)

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"they do contribute greatly if you are playing to help your team and not your KD."

nail/head - hit!

[Edited on March 23, 2010 at 12:44 PM. Reason : s]

3/23/2010 12:31:14 PM

We know Arab, we are certainly aware. The time its takes to ready that weapon versus firing an UZI or PP200 accurately off the hip with a ridiculous fire rate makes a HUGE difference even at near medium range. Each gun has something good about it in certain situations. Its all dictated by your preference and playing style.

3/23/2010 12:34:52 PM

true enough, i haven't really used all the engy weapons yet (i use one until a better one (for me) unlocks or I get a gold star with it)

3/23/2010 12:46:37 PM

Just try out some shit and stick with for a round or two. My gun library is so specific now that I only use certain classes and guns for certain modes and maps.

3/23/2010 12:51:03 PM

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"i have no problem with Recon class doing that if and only if they are constantly spotting enemies and calling for mortar support. now if they are doing none of the 2 then they are a waste and lend no help to arming/disarming. i've had many successful winning rounds where i've done exactly that for my team: spot, call in mortar support and snipe an occasional enemy. as for being in a Recon squad, again i see no issue with that as long as, again, everyone is spotting for the frontal assault squads."

While these things are often helpful, I personally don't feel like these things actually win the round. The ultimate goal of the round is to destroy the crates and continue to advance up the battlefield until there are no more crates to destroy. True, a mortar strike can level some buildings, but not all of them. When the snipers on your team don't advance towards the objective, and they are in a situation where the crate is in a location which can't be leveled, then the most they can do is spot or pick off enemies attempting to disarm the crate. Even worse is when I'm actively working to destroy the crate and have no support from the snipers since they refuse to advance to make it easier to respawn closer to the target or unfortunately aren't able to pick off the guys who go to disarm the charge. Could just be a bad angle or bad shooting, but either way it feels like a failure at a critical moment when having a squadmate on the scene might make the difference. Ugh. I had this happen at 6 times on one map yesterday. I eventually decided to just brute force the crates with C4, and I wound up getting 3 crates in this manner.

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"- Use the Spot scope. Its ridiculously effective. - Call in Mortar strikes on the objective. Wen we played last night I killed 4 objectives in one game with Destruction 2.0. - Smoke is effective against snipers, but they can always resort to moving in closer and using the VSS with the 4x scope and magnum ammo, and stay near an assault person to re-up on ammo and use Spot mines. - Also even if you get smoked you out, you still can serve as a spawn point for your squad so that they can spawn closer to the objective."

All of these are excellent points, but I don't see people actively doing them enough to make a difference. Even more frustrating is when the snipers don't. Advance. At. All. They pick a hill and sit there. It actually would have been a lot more helpful if the enemy team had counter snipers and picked off my own squad's snipers to help motivate them to do something different, but I guess these guys weren't annoying the other team enough to do that.

Defense, on the other hand, is where Recon can be absolutely invaluable... if only they'd throw out the motion mines consistently. Or perhaps choosing a position where they can cover the crate and pick off anyone who runs in to arm it. It's astonishing to me when I don't see this happen, but I sometimes think that maybe this is due to not enough ammo boxes being dispensed.

http://www.quarterdown.com/Editorials/This-Week-in-Failing-Me-Bad-Company-2/

Great article.

3/23/2010 1:01:01 PM