http://www.nacda.com/directorscup/nacda-directorscup-current-scoring.html

4/30/2010 1:57:42 PM

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"I would imagine most ADs wouldn't allow the non-money sports to be as awful as they are (I'm looking at you volleyball)."

I'm not tryna defend or whatever, but I will bring up that LF hired 3 coaches and fired/parted with 3 in VB. He hired Byrne a while back, she didn't pan out, he hired Stubbs, she didn't pan out, he hired the new guy, Bunn.


When you're asking a coach to undertake a rebuilding job like that one, you gotta give the coach a decent chance, and the coach prob has to get a little lucky. I don't know if he could have done much more or done it faster.

4/30/2010 2:27:40 PM

my whole deal w/ him is just his overall attitude. he doesn't strike me as someone who just exudes happiness or joy...

and he never takes blame for failures IMO

4/30/2010 2:33:09 PM

Triangle Business Journal reports NCSU Athletic Director Lee Fowler is on his way out. Is this a good move for the Pack?
http://poll.fm/1v5nb

4/30/2010 2:34:52 PM

i cannot imagine that Lee Fowler can even comprehend someone who is coming to NC State with the attitude of "I did not come here to lose" that CJ Leslie says as he is coming here. Like, it must sound like a foreign language to him.

Because he is basically the Herb Sendek of ADs. god. you may be "servicable" as a position filler, but jesus christ, have some passion for the program you represent. and back that up with results eventually. like before a decade passes.

4/30/2010 2:35:33 PM

he's just one excuse after another... and i'm fed up

4/30/2010 2:36:34 PM

the day he said we shouldnt expect to be able to compete with duke and unc is the day he died to me

4/30/2010 2:45:25 PM

This:

Quote :

"the day he said we shouldnt expect to be able to compete with duke and unc is the day he died to me"

also, http://www.frumpzilla.com will be sitting down with Lee Folwer over the weekend to talk about the recent happenings, interview being posted Monday.

info on how to submit questions if you want here: http://www.frumpzilla.com/frumpzilla_site/articles/frumpzilla-lands-exclusive-interview-with-the-one-and-only-lee-folwer/

[Edited on April 30, 2010 at 3:20 PM. Reason : .]

4/30/2010 3:06:42 PM

^ that picture should win some kind of fancy award for "disturbing"

4/30/2010 4:46:12 PM

from Brett Jensen, who broke the story yesterday on WFNZ.com

Quote :

"You first heard here at WFNZ.com on Thursday that word out of Mississippi was that N.C. State athletics director Lee Fowler was interviewing for the same job at Mississippi State in Atlanta. Well, there’s some new information from the same people that first spilled the beans about Fowler and the Bulldogs. Turns out that Fowler isn’t likely to get the job. He’s a legitimate candidate, but a long shot at this point. Others in line for the job include a female assistant AD from the Pac-10, as well as a former member of the school’s Final Four team in the mid 1990s. However, the leading candidate appears to be Scott Stricklin, was was named Mississippi State’s associate athletics director for external affairs in 2008. At this point, it’s a very doubtful Fowler gets the job. And all indications coming out of Raleigh is he’s not long for his current job, either, regardless of what shakes out in Starkville."

4/30/2010 4:53:07 PM

soooooo it begins to come out why miss state would be interested in fowler

the managing partner of the hiring firm was an adjunct professor at mtsu

4/30/2010 4:53:26 PM

Well as long as he's gone it doesn't much matter where he goes. Maybe we can get UNC to take him.

4/30/2010 4:56:30 PM

if it really is true that he's leaving, and it is looking like it, one way or another, i might go use my wallet and celebrate by getting some basketball season tickets

4/30/2010 5:17:30 PM

So if he never gets another job we have to keep him??

4/30/2010 6:30:42 PM

haha wish that worked in the real world.

"you can't fire me! i don't have another job yet!"

4/30/2010 11:01:57 PM

you know for most people, if the current employer finds out they are fishing for another job, they get canned whether or not they get that job

4/30/2010 11:19:33 PM

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"the fact that you listed tommy bowden as a top coach nullifies everything else you may have said"

My point was some no name coaches work out and others don't as they try to advance their careers in the big leagues. Urban Myer has done well at Florida where Ron Zook didn't do well and Tommy Bowden failed at Clemson after doing well at Tulane. If we replace Lee Fowler then the next AD is going to have to take a chance on up and coming coaches too when they have to be replaced for one reason, or another. I'll be glad when Fowler is gone, but that doesn't mean we will see a huge improvement in our teams.

4/30/2010 11:59:16 PM

listen, it's not like we're competing for acc titles anyway.

We could hire a monkey and probably would give up 50 to Duke.

If shit ain't working, change it. Fowler wore out his welcome 5 years ago.

5/1/2010 12:09:26 AM

Oh I agree. What we need is an AD who is ready to pull the trigger after 4, or 5 losing seasons.

5/1/2010 12:11:07 AM

I would have to say that the last 10 years has been the worst I can remember in either sport.

I remember being excited as a kid with Sheridan, hell even some under Amato (not that he was a long term answer).

I am indifferent these days to the program and I suspect a lot of boosters are too - let's get a young fiery dude in as AD (or a hot chick). If they fail, well, we suck. We suck now.

Barack Obama wouldn't be a bad AD, at least he'd bring CHANGE we can believe in

5/1/2010 12:25:54 AM

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1410&t=5907446

5/1/2010 12:36:02 AM

Quote :

" * CNDNHEEL * Redshirt * 148 posts this site Posted: Yesterday 1:36 PM Re: What Is Moo U? I started liking them when I saw them play back when Rick Fox was there. Being a Canadian and seeing a Canadian kid playing when very few Canadians went down South for basketball scholarships just made me like them. From there I started learning the history about the program and really liked the way Dean handled things and the type of person he was, and the types of people he recruited. I was also a HUGE Bulls fan the first year Jordan went pro and didn't even realize he went to UNC...LOL! Once I found that out, it made me love Carolina even more. The one player I had trouble liking at first was Worthy as I LOVED the Celtics back before Mike entered the league and therefor obviously HATED the Lakers. Then once i got my hands on some old games when Worthy was at UNC, I couldn't help but like the guy and the way he played. I always respected his game when he was with the Lakers, for all the attention Kareem and magic got, I always thought James was their unsung hero who consistently played well against the Celtics. I even applied for a scholly to UNC for soccer my senior year (I applied to the top 5 Div. 1 soccer schools in the U.S. that year), but never heard from them. Only Rutgers offered me a scholly and I decided to stay in Ottawa because of a girl instead (I know, stupid move, but you do stupid stuff like that when you are young). Had it been UNC offering me, I would have left her though...LOL!"

a true fan. Nothing says Walmart like a random ass Canadian pulling for them because of a couple of allstars. I would delete this fuck if I was a mod on that board.

5/1/2010 12:41:14 AM

CNDNHEEL = ?

5/1/2010 12:57:22 AM

IC posts like that make al gore wish he had never invented the internet.

5/1/2010 4:45:51 AM

Holy shit, now I'm disappointed that I haven't been keeping up with TWW for a few days...

He's actually gone?! I can hardly believe it's real....

and yet, I know not to get my hopes up. This is NC State, we could very easily get someone who turns out to be worse. (assuming someone worse actually exists)

[Edited on May 1, 2010 at 6:06 AM. Reason : .]

5/1/2010 6:05:59 AM

[link]http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fhttp://www.newsobserver.com%2F2010%2F05%2F01%2F461976%2Fpacks-fowler-under-scrutiny.html&h=f0f21[/link]

Hopefully Woodson will do his job and listen to the students.

5/1/2010 12:39:53 PM

niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

5/1/2010 12:43:41 PM

heh

5/1/2010 12:44:20 PM

^^^if what that article says is true he hasnt had time to get down to atlanta for an interview

5/1/2010 12:59:28 PM

Another SFN article, with more stuff now...
http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2010/04/30/fowler-friday-horse-is-out-of-the-barn/

Quote :

"Several sources with ties to the university say Fowler, top university officials and the school’s board of trustees are working on a strategy that would end his decade-long tenure as athletics director. The sources say Fowler is being given time to find another position, should he choose to do so, at which time his departure from NCSU would be announced."

5/1/2010 4:25:16 PM

Quote :

"the day he said we shouldnt expect to be able to compete with duke and unc is the day he died to me"

when did this happen? I think I remember hearing about this but cant remember when or what context it was in.

5/2/2010 2:23:56 PM

Quote :

"Our fans are comparing ourselves to Duke and North Carolina. Every program in the country doesn’t do well when you’re compared with those two on a day-to-day basis. I understand that our fans want to be able to compete with them; we all do. But you can be real good on a daily basis and not be better than those two programs."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/ncaatourney05/news/story?id=2020459&num=0

5/2/2010 6:24:22 PM

"Hey, honey, Lee Fowler is going away."

"Who's that?"

"The athletic director at State."

"Good!"

5/2/2010 8:30:36 PM

just tried to duplicate that conversation, but it came with different results...

"Hey, honey, Lee Fowler is going away."

"The college gameday guy?!?!"


(Lee Corso + Chris Fowler)

5/3/2010 8:00:25 PM

Quote :

"folwerette wants to tweet here once: you better love my daddy because he loves state and we need stuff, so THERE!!! <3 u. kthnx."

lol oh and

Quote :

"i heard on the news there was a mob roaming around campus last night. i've got all the secretaries outside filling sandbags."

5/3/2010 8:28:12 PM

Quote :

"@Follow24Hodge..when i'm hongry, i eat, but state picks up the tab. i don't know if you'd call it an expense account or an expanse account."

Quote :

"@Lee_Folwer lol.. u be hav'n me cracking up.."

lol

5/3/2010 8:33:33 PM

Quote :

"lol.. u be hav'n me cracking up"

5/3/2010 9:11:40 PM

http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow/fowler-and-nc-state-agree-to-part-ways



Lee Fowler and N.C. State agreed to end their working relationship today after Fowler served almost 10 years as N.C. State's athletic
director.

Fowler, 58, will continue to work through June 30 and
will receive payment for the remainder of his contract, which is worth
$280,000 annually until Sept. 2013.

The school is scheduled to make an official announcement this afternoon.

Under Fowler, the Wolfpack made significant facility upgrades,
totaling more than $130 million, to the football stadium, baseball
complex and several on-campus venues.

But with the Wolfpack's main revenue sports of football and men's basketball stagnating in the second half of his tenure, Fowler was under pressure from the fan base
and new university chancellor Randy Woodson.

N.C. State hasn't had a winning season in football or made the NCAA tournament in men's basketball since 2006.

5/4/2010 12:15:06 PM

PEACE!

5/4/2010 12:18:32 PM

FACILITIES!!!!!111

5/4/2010 12:19:09 PM

Randy Woodson

5/4/2010 12:20:52 PM

WOO HOO

5/4/2010 12:22:06 PM

HOLLER

5/4/2010 12:23:32 PM

Bill Cowher for new AD. That's my vote.

5/4/2010 12:23:44 PM

RETWEEETED


ok it would if i had the twitters

5/4/2010 12:23:57 PM

$840,000 in wasted money keeping him on the payroll till his contract expires, how do you all think that will affect our hire?

[Edited on May 4, 2010 at 12:29 PM. Reason : hi]

5/4/2010 12:24:51 PM

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

5/4/2010 12:25:02 PM

GETTTTTTTTTTTT

OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

5/4/2010 12:25:18 PM

ps can we get some real verification on this

5/4/2010 12:25:33 PM

GET ON THE BUS!

5/4/2010 12:29:08 PM